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Wondering, is M going to get doubled (yes, I cling to BB:M, Phone:M, TV:XL + Loyalty untlil they prise the package from my cold, dead hands - unless something else comes up that really is too good to turn down).
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I've read that power levels shouldn't be lower than -3 and Swansea support have confirmed this to me. While my power levels were around -5, I had cause to call out two engineers. They both told me that -7 is perfectly acceptable and they both refused to raise them. Later my power levels dropped further to -7.5 or so yet my quality of service seemed as good as ever, fast download speeds of up to 7.4MB/s and none of the problems that I had been experiencing previously. I no longer worry about them. :shrug: |
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VM came back to me (I posted on their forums too) they decided the levels too low and are sending someone out.
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Also I'd expect quite a few don't want the hassle of, or wouldn't be confident in swapping the kit - no matter what it was they were sent. |
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What ever happened to 30MB minimum by end of 2012
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No way do I want a Superdud, stick with my trusty NTL250. Unless you download loads (most don't), the speeds at above 20MB start to become irrelevant. |
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Any news on when updates will be really happening?
My Virgin Media still shows my area has been updated when it hasn't. |
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Have you checked your modem to see what speed your are currently provisioned for?
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yeah, the extra 10mbits is for fluff
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Of course by "fluff" he means extra padding to their average speedtest numbers, without which their average speed for 100Mb users at peak times would drop below 70...
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111000000 bps translates to about 105.85 mbps. The 120mbps is currently being rolled out in Cosham and is set to 133000000 bps.
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VM set the actual speed slightly higher than advertised because it's not possible to run the connection at 100% with real-world protocols. ps. Welcome to the forum! |
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I've even had excuses like 'they Olympics held it up because they couldn't do any work underground in parts of London'. So I just asked them 'so what's your excuse im my area, as I'm 35 miles north from London?'. |
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My bug is paying the same rate for a lesser service.
What that speed is does not interest me.However I do object to people getting X speed for £Y `s when I pay the same but get X speed halved. If you charge by speed, deliver or compensate the people that you have failed to supply it to. |
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Yet another case of Virgin and never, never, land. What are we looking at 14-15 months to deliver on a statement. |
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However mine has been pushed back. So why o why would I have any faith it it happening within that time scale. It certainly does not negate the point that for 15 months I will in effect be subsidising other customers. That is if higher speeds in fact cost more , if they don`t why charge more for them. Which ever way you try to spin it I am out of pocket -so to speak .:( |
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No. You really aren't :)
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Go to a shop buy a piece of cake (That is cut in to four pieces) for a £1 the next customer gets two pieces for a £1 the third that also get one for his £1 so a whole cake is selling for £3 . two @ a £1 for some customers one for others I call that subsidising. :confused: |
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Virgin didn't have to offer it's existing customers an automatic upgrade. They could have restricted it to new customers and upgrading customers only, and when there are complaints like this I sometimes wish they had as it would be less complicated. |
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You sign up for a package and that's your contracted deal. You are not out of pocket. |
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However the fact remains that VM publicised the speed doubling far too early. I presume this was to put people off changing to BT. And now VM have egg on their face. THey did tell customers that they would be getting more for their money. Yet all those paying the highest tariff (who were going to get the least anyway) have so far got no boost at all. |
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I don't post often but once I found that my speed wasn't doubling for another 6 months this is what i posted on the Virgin forum:
Why is it that there isn't a set rate for Broadband especially when people are out of contract. I was previously paying £27.50 for Broadband only, and around January time I was informed that my package would be upgraded free of charge by July (hopefully), and I would be getting 60mb. Only a few days later I was told my package was going up by £2.50, package what package I only have, and only want broadband. I thought nothing of it as I would soon be getting double the speed. Now when checking on the on line checker I am informed it will not happen until Dec possibly Feb next year, however I see that the current price for broadband only 30mb is £22.50 and for 60mb £27.50, how can this be right when I am being charged £30? Surely I should be getting 30mb for less than what I am currently being charged? How can I have a price hike for something that others are getting both cheaper and better speeds? Basically told to phone Virgin and moan. And they can't keep tabs on what people are paying once outside contract. My gripe is they made such a big thing about upgrade, didn't deliver, and now are re-advertising yet again. How can we be sure we will get this upgrade in the new allotted time? And surely they must know who is paying what, surely there must be some record on their data bases? And yes I know it wasn't a cast iron guarantee, but I took them at their word (Fool). |
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As for the price. I didn't get any reduction until I called them and increased my bundle. Then for 4 months I had problems with my BB, with one excuse after another. |
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If I hadn't called them, then I would probably still be on the higher price. The reason I mentioned the BB problems, is because they promised that they would be resolved by the 29th August whn my speed increase came in. |
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From what I can read into all this is Virgin basically, whilst not telling lies have convinced many people to stick with them as they would be getting a free upgrade. However to give an on line checker stating a certain time scale, then not delivering and putting it back over 6 months, is misleading. If they knew my area was going to be one of the last why tell me porkies. Yes the whole process may take 18 months, so why didn't they email me this fact. ie. you will be getting an increase in speed some when 18 months from this email, not send me to a checker site stating that it would be 6 months, and then when this time period expires I check again and lo and behold they have moved the goalposts!!!
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STM was always going to come in and 10gb in the evening isn't a bad figure
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Sorry but if 30 meg costs £30 its a £1 a meg. Yet if I get 10meg for £30 its £3 per meg
Its therefore a) over priced to me b) under priced to the other customer .c) correctly priced to him . So I pay too much to cover the loss on him or I just pay to much! As stated before by others . I was out of contract & looking at infinity / sky when this pie in the sky offer was made. Lesson learned NEVER EVER believe a word virgin say. Give them one thing they are the MASTERS of SPIN . |
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The issue here is that VM (and many other ISP's) tend to leave people on legacy pricing due to contracts signed when that product/service was installed. |
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http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/282700.html I don't think anyone's "suffering", even on 10mb. Of course, if you had had your upgrade by now you wouldn't be on here moaning that other people hadn't got theirs, would you? :) Quote:
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Yes Carl, and I agree that they didn't have a crystal ball, but if they quoted 18 months in the first place it might have been a bit better. They must have had some timescale in mind when they let me know it was most likely to happen this July just gone.
But the main problem is why should I not be charged the current rate for a 30meg connection? Surely they know what customers are out of contract? And yes I could ring, and most likely will ring and complain. But I took them at their word and was expecting a July upgrade. Should I have been checking the site every day to see if they had moved the goalposts? It was only once I realised that my upgrade hadn't happened I checked. |
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VM do not have enough staff to be able to go through all their customer database, find out who's paying what and how much they should be paying. |
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Fair enough, thanks for your input.
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They could always email the great news that your price would be going down, or not only that just drop the price and mention why on your next ebil
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Personally I moan to a trade union. Consider teh internets as a customer union for ISPs?
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Phoned Virgin Media, they said they could upgrade me to 60mb, but for the same price I am paying now for 30mb ie. £30, but would mean new 12 month contract. I was told only new customers who would also be signing a 12 month contract can pay £27.50? Don't want to be tied down to a new contract so will wait for nature to take it's cause and get the free upgrade. I may be being a bit stupid here, but the speed isn't as much of an issue, but is the fact that I as a loyal customer of many years would be signing into a new contract for more money than a newbie, where is the fairness in that? Not signing a new contract gives me breathing space to weigh up my options.
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Result! Had a phone call from Virgin they offered me a range of options, and I decided to go with Broadband L at £22.50 but without having to sign a new contract, happy bunny. Speed is not an issue 30mb is perfect for me as a single user.
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I just wish VM wouldn't announce upgrades so long in advance..I would have been in happy ignorance.:erm:
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Because they can do what they like with their own network but not their TV service which relies on carriage contracts with other broadcasters and the talks for which are always confidential up until the deal is done.
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Even when deals are done,they still don't tell their customers. Thank God for Media Boy who gives a great service to us. |
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Well i have reduced my broadband this morning from 100 meg to 60 meg until they sort out the high utilisation on all the upstreams in my area.
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has your double downstream ETA been met Sirus
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but we have moved to 6 downstreams and 1 upstream. Over utilisation coincided with the local colleges and university starting back. It down to bittorrent users if you ask me and why VM cannot use heavy traffic shaping on bittorrent at peak times i don't know. Bittorrent because of its nature hammers the upstreams |
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My area has 120mbit coming in october and my normal upstream looks nearly as bad as yours, I found one which is ok although still congested so for me not all upstreams are bad. But as far as I can tell my downstreams are congested because moving to a better upstream didnt fix my download speeds. For me VM need a rethink of their mindset. First they have to accept they prepared to lose customers who are a hinderence, not get customers at all costs. When they accept that I would do the following. Set a upload usage limit thats suitable for people doing things like uploading videos, photos, emails. But does not allow 24/7 torrenting. eg. on a 100mbit service I would think something like 30gig to be very reasonable and that should go a long way to reducing torrenting. Then add in the AUP forbid servers been run on the residential service. Want to run a server? buy a business service. Gaming servers could be waived. Rollout this new enhanced STM that has been in the rumours for over a year, I assume at the moment either VM have canned the idea or they cant get it to work. Comcast run a traffic management thats on 24/7 its dynamic, and more effective. It doesnt specifically throttle things like torrents but would more effectively throttle torrent abusers than VMs current system. Add more upstream channels without increasing speeds further, I think each area needs at least US 6 channels with 2 sets of 3 bonded channels. Use all 8 downstream channels without further increasing speeds. Increase prices for the higher tiered products, I am on the lowest broadband package and was offered 120mbit the new top tier for just an extra £5 a month, thats ridicolous. |
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Due to having a bad service for 6 months, downloading torrents is the only thing that my connection is good for. Used to have bandwidth usage of 20 to 35 GB a month for combined types of traffic but mostly played a couple of games online. Packetloss and oversubscribed UBR made the games and streaming not possible.
The fix date is December, 9 months after it was reported as being a problem but through an accident got switched to another UBR. This UBR has the same issues and same fix date but did get the speed upgrade when it switched, which was just lucky I guess. The connection is still only good enough for browsing slowly and torrents though. Would have switched providers when Infinity hit here but due to move house and was easier to stay with VM for now. |
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Well apparently, mine is supposed to be "doubled" by the end of October.
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Mines come forward a few months.
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when is upstream going to be upgraded in Crawley. Downstream was done in July.
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Argh! I'm goin' mad!
Speed doubling here (New Malden UBR) was originally forecast for April to June 2012, I'm pretty sure. Then went back to September, then, until very recently, October. I check again today and it's gone back to December to February 2013. At this rate it will be a full 12 months late! Does anyone know what is going on in Croydon/New Malden to cause these delays and have a better handle than the online checker on when the job will really be done. That website is now thoroughly discredited, whatever small print they use to cover themselves! |
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Originally VM gave the excuse that the July date was pushed back to September due to the Olympics but with the date moving twice since, its probably incompetence, bad planning or simply they are holding off paying for new equipment for as long as possible to save some pennies in their bank. VM is one of the topics on Watchdog on BBC 1 tomorrow. Wondering if it will be about this or one of their many other false advertisements. Could be about their terrible service, bad support or so many other things though :P |
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I have to say they are getting a bit of a rep for this at THE most senior level (Neil Berkitt).
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It is really a shambles. ..and now all the talk is of "TV Anywhere". Let's see how that goes! |
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it is all PR to get them in the news
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Some of the recent ones I had noticed that were upheld:
David Tenant VM ad "Say goodbye to buffering" - Ad now banned http://www.asa.org.uk/Rulings/Adjudi...DJ_201412.aspx “Average download times with up to 60Mb broadband Album 9 secs TV show 54 secs Movie 2.5 mins HD movie 10 mins“ Ad on their website - ASA found to be misleading due to traffic management. http://www.asa.org.uk/ASA-action/Adj...DJ_194077.aspx The complainant, who did not believe the small print was legible, challenged whether the ad was misleading. http://www.asa.org.uk/Rulings/Adjudi...DJ_186497.aspx There are many more ASA complaints which where upheld, probably 10 or more already this year alone that. Yet I havn't seen one for advertising upload speed upgrades by summer which then took 18 months, along with the speed doubling and similar stuff. |
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Not to mention the 100Mb rollout and upstream uplifts which were also a fiasco (remember them taking a full 12 months to even provide an estimated date, and then missing it twice?)
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http://www.productsandservices.bt.co...?topicId=33828 160 Meg down and 20 Meg up on BT Infinity, if you live in one of their upgraded network areas. The BT upgrade doesn't happen in my area until next yer. Wonder what will be rolled out first where I live? BT's upgrade or my speed being doubled by Virgin? Not looking good for Virgin in the long term. Second best TV provider behind SKY and if BT keep this up second best broadband speeds too. |
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My area (Chelmsford) isn't due to be doubled in speed until, I think, mid 2013. When I log into My Virginmedia, I get a message saying that my upgrade to 60meg is now available and to click on the message to get a superhub.
I'm on XL but stayed on 20meg because my current modem is rock solid and I didn't see a point of changing it just for an extra 10meg speed. Do people think the message is an error, or are they offering me an early upgrade? |
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their offering it. take it. the SH can be put into modem mode. link your own choice of router and your away with more bandwidth.
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Fought tooth and nail to go back to an old modem and was promised one by every department. Never got one though. |
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I am another who is staying with my Ambit 256, for how much longer I don't know.
If it goes US then no option but a shub, would much prefer a better option of another shub (model 2 possibly)? |
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