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Damien 22-12-2011 12:01
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Uncle Peter (Post 35349479)
The Patrice Evra who insulted Suarez with a derogatory term based on his origin and is not facing a similar charge?

ok then
Ah so Evra did do it even though there is even less evidence of that incident than the Suarez one? Liverpool seem to have suddenly found his issue but I don't believe for a moment they are concerned with the issue of racism given the way they have conducted this entire affair, they just want to get their player off the hook.

If a team member of Arsenal was accused of racism I would expect the club to defend him until found guilty. I would be ashamed if they went after the accuser.

Uncle Peter 22-12-2011 12:14
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Well there's not exactly a lack of evidence as Evra himself admitted what he had said. This is not a case of getting the player off-the-hook, it's a case of him clearing his name.

I don't believe that the FA are serious about anything other than pursuing their war against Sepp Blatter after the World Cup bid debacle and the way they conducted themselves over that.

denphone 22-12-2011 12:33
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16295932.stm

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Liverpool striker Luis Suarez will appeal against his Football Association punishment for racially abusing Patrice Evra, according to his lawyer.
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"He [Suarez] is firmly convinced this hard sanction can be reversed."
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Speaking at a news conference in Uruguay capital Montevideo, Balbi said that it would be Liverpool's lawyers who made the appeal to the FA.




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Arsenal have moved their Premier League match with Wolves back 24 hours to 27 December because of proposed industrial action on the London Underground.
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"We apologise for the inconvenience this may have caused supporters, but we feel that the right decision has been made based on a duty of care."
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All tickets purchased will still be valid for 27 December, when the match will kick-off at 1500 GMT.


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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16300935.stm

Saaf_laandon_mo 22-12-2011 14:09
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
So Suarez called Evra a 'negro' or words to that effect. He then admits saying it, but his arguments were a) it's not so bad to use it in Uraguay, and b) all Evra's Utd team mates would say the same. I doubt anyone at Utd calls Evra a negro.

The FA charged and found Suarez guilty of using offensive language. So what will Suarez's appeal be based on considering he admitted to using those words. Also its important to note that he has also played in Holland, where such language would more than likely be termed as offensive too.

Russ 22-12-2011 14:11
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo (Post 35349516)
but his arguments were a) it's not so bad to use it in Uraguay,
The irony is if he was black (or non-white) there would be people queuing up to say "you're in Britain now, learn our customs or leave" etc

Saaf_laandon_mo 22-12-2011 14:12
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Uncle Peter (Post 35349315)
If Terry gets away with this scot-free then the FA will have no grounds to charge him and had this not been reported to the police by the member of the public there is no reason to believe that this particular incident would ever see the light of day.

Suarez on the other hand was charged on the basis of an accusation by another player and his case was heard by a supposedly independent disciplinary committee, appointed by the FA of course. The problem that the FA now have is that they have accused Suarez of something which will leave him open to potentially libellous actions such as the nonsense printed on the back of some of the red-tops this morning. The FA have opened a huge can of worms for themselves and started a war that will end very badly for them.
Suarez has admitted using that language that the FA have penalised him for. He's just disputing it was offensive! He might have been accused by Evra but he has admitted to saying it.

denphone 22-12-2011 14:15
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Here are a couple of articles on the Evra/Suarez affair explaining things a bit better.

http://www.kopsource.com/why-culture...racism-ruling/

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/...better-but-his

Saaf_laandon_mo 22-12-2011 14:27
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35349521)
Here are a couple of articles on the Evra/Suarez affair explaining things a bit better.

http://www.kopsource.com/why-culture...racism-ruling/

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/...better-but-his
I would saying that refering to you own team mate, for example as the "Black Boss", cannot be used to justify calling an oponent (who's more than likely not your mate), blacky.... (which the term negrita can mean). He can't use the excuse of it being ok in his culture. He should have known (and most probably would have known) that he can't get away with using those words against evra. The only thing I think he can appeal against is the length of the ban.

Personally I hope the FA raise it for a stupid appeal.

Uncle Peter 22-12-2011 14:41
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
and if Evra had used a Spanish word for South American which can only be used in the most objectionable, racially abusive context?

Damien 22-12-2011 14:45
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Uncle Peter (Post 35349525)
and if Evra had used a Spanish word for South American which can only be used in the most objectionable, racially abusive context?
Then he should get a 8 match ban as well. It appears the FA are not convinced by the evidence for that however.

denphone 22-12-2011 15:49
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16300956.stm

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AZ Alkmaar's goalkeeper Esteban Alvarado retaliates against a pitch invader during their Dutch Cup match against Ajax - and is sent off by referee Bas Nijhuis.

The incident prompts Alkmaar's coach Gert Jan Verbeek to take his team off the pitch in protest at the Costa Rican's dismissal, and the game at the Amsterdam Arena is abandoned after only 36 minutes.
It seems one player has had enough of this pitch invader.

denphone 22-12-2011 18:10
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...llers-coloured

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Alan Hansen has "unreservedly" apologised for twice using the word "coloured" to describe black footballers on Match of the Day on Wednesday evening when discussing the current John Terry and Luis Suárez racism cases.
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The BBC said it has received 82 complaints over the use of the word, which caused a backlash on Twitter. The former Tottenham player Rohan Ricketts, now with Shamrock Rovers, tweeted: "Is this Alan Hansen guy taking the f****** ****?? I'm not coloured??? He is part of the problem when using that word. We are BLACK Alan! [sic]."
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He added: "Alan Hansen is more coloured than a black person. But still we would not call him or another white man coloured." According to the Sun, the former England international Stan Collymore said: "Coloured? What colour would that be? Blue? Green? Orange?"

TheDaddy 22-12-2011 18:18
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35349517)
The irony is if he was black (or non-white) there would be people queuing up to say "you're in Britain now, learn our customs or leave" etc
He is non white last time I looked, infact his grandfather at least is black, wonder what little Louie affectionately called him?

Saaf_laandon_mo 22-12-2011 18:41
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
I have to admit, my jaw did drop when Hansen said coloured on Match of the Day. I was a bit suprised they hadn't been prepped into what you can and can't say, although you shouldn't need prepping to work out there are somethings you cant/shouldn't say.

Jameseh 22-12-2011 18:48
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Why didn't he just say foreign? Its what he meant and its not as if all English born players are white.

Uncle Peter 22-12-2011 19:22
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
This is a country struggling to come to terms with it's previous history of institutional racism, bigotry and prejudice which still exists to some extent. The slightest faux-pas becomes a feeding frenzy for the moral police.

My other half is Straits Chinese and objects to being called Oriental, a common occurrence here but no offence taken eh.

Arthurgray50@blu 22-12-2011 21:03
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Howard Webb needs to go to specsavers, It was clear handball and Ashley Cole deserves and oscar for diving - everytime he went in for a tackle he fell over and gets a free kick.

1 - 1

More goals to come:D

Julian 23-12-2011 09:37
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
So spurs "fans" display rank hypocrisy by jeering John Terry after how they treated Sol Campbell. :rolleyes:

denphone 23-12-2011 10:58
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Julian (Post 35349789)
So spurs "fans" display rank hypocrisy by jeering John Terry after how they treated Sol Campbell. :rolleyes:
Yes some supporters have short memorys methinks.:)

Arthurgray50@blu 23-12-2011 11:34
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
lets make one thiong clear here, What Terry did was a disgrace against a fellow pro, and if that was Joe Bloggs they would have been suspended or sacked by now.

The Sol Campbell thing was down to the fact he went to Arsenal, and that is bad..

denphone 23-12-2011 11:48
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35349853)
lets make one thiong clear here, What Terry did was a disgrace against a fellow pro, and if that was Joe Bloggs they would have been suspended or sacked by now.

The Sol Campbell thing was down to the fact he went to Arsenal, and that is bad..
How is it bad as he only went to another football club at the end of the day and has not become a gangster or murderer.:rolleyes:

colin25 23-12-2011 14:36
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35349860)
How is it bad as he only went to another football club at the end of the day and has not become a gangster or murderer.:rolleyes:
Agreed.

Be thankful he is not coming back :)

denphone 23-12-2011 15:13
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16284988.stm

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Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson has condemned Blackburn fans for their treatment of boss Steve Kean.
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"It doesn't say a lot for society. For goodness sake give the lad a break."
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The League Managers' Association said the fans' reactions were "unacceptable".
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Redknapp described the supporters' behaviour as "horrific".
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However, ex-Rovers striker Kevin Gallacher told BBC Sport that Kean's position had become "untenable", while former Home Secretary Jack Straw has added his voice to those calling for Kean to be sacked.
Not a very nice way for fans to treat a fellow human being.:(

Jameseh 23-12-2011 16:04
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Why do fans never think its the players that are crap instead of the manager? They've got Samba and...

denphone 23-12-2011 16:11
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16290837.stm

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Chelsea have opened talks with Bolton about England defender Gary Cahill.
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Now Bolton boss Owen Coyle has revealed that there have been discussions between the two clubs.
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"We are aware of Gary's contractual situation," Villas-Boas said earlier this week. "He's an interesting player for the club."


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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jameseh (Post 35349946)
Why do fans never think its the players that are crap instead of the manager? They've got Samba and...
Exactly its always the manager who supporters tend to attack but yet its the players on the pitch that are not doing it who should be called into question in my mind.

Uncle Peter 23-12-2011 16:24
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Then when a new manager comes in and things start to go badly it becomes the players' fault for not trying hard enough. Who'd be a manager eh.

denphone 23-12-2011 16:32
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16315781.stm

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Liverpool manager Kenny Dalglish has defended his players after they were criticised for their public backing of Luis Suarez.
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But Dalglish insisted: "I don't think the players have caused any trouble."
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Liverpool insist their player is not a racist and have repeatedly declared their support for the 24-year-old.
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"We have lived, trained and played with Luis for almost 12 months and we don't recognise the way he has been portrayed."
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Former Manchester United and Aston Villa centre-half Paul McGrath described the move as "shameful" and said he would not have worn such a T-shirt.
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They are still awaiting the full written verdict of the independent commission which heard Suarez's case but are not expected to receive it until after Christmas.

TheDaddy 23-12-2011 18:33
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35349456)
l have paid attention totally to the case but l am posing the question of sometime in the future will we be able to call someone black and you have not answered that question so far as if l call someone black will l be accused of being racist sometime in the future by someone.
It's getting so you can't call a spade a spade these days :erm: :D

Jameseh 24-12-2011 01:38
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35350017)
It's getting so you can't call a spade a spade these days :erm: :D
I believe the term is 'manual powered earth displacement device'.

denphone 24-12-2011 17:27
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16324231.stm

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Arsene Wenger is considering re-signing Arsenal's record goalscorer Thierry Henry on a two-month loan deal.
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Wenger said: "I have to think about [making an offer for Henry].

thenry 24-12-2011 20:53
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
:D loads of positives

Mal 24-12-2011 23:44
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35350518)
:D loads of positives
Yes, but you also want Wenger out ;)

denphone 25-12-2011 04:52
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35350518)
:D loads of positives
What for 2 months.:)

adzii_nufc 25-12-2011 07:41
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Really wish we had someone to partner with Demba Ba, Leon Best simply does not cut it and Shola Ameobi's performances are beyond a joke now. His workrate is laughable and he has no skill or pace whatsoever. Waste of money per week on his wages.

Still paper talk of Lampard going to Real Madrid.

Very doubtful, He seems the type of player that will finish his career at Chelsea.

denphone 26-12-2011 04:13
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
http://www.sportinglife.com/football...s.html&BID=165

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Cesc Fabregas has not ruled out a return to Arsenal later in his career, but said the London club are the only team he would want to leave Barcelona for.

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"Apart from Arsenal and Barcelona, I don't see myself playing anywhere else," he told Sky Sports News.


http://www.sportinglife.com/football...n.html&BID=165

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Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson has reiterated he is not looking to make a move in the January transfer window unless a top player becomes available or his squad is further hit by injuries.
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Writing in his programme notes for the Boxing Day game with Wigan, Ferguson said: "All things being equal I am perfectly happy with the strength of our squad in terms of depth, quality and age range.

denphone 26-12-2011 13:58
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16333382.stm

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Former Chelsea boss Jose Mourinho has said his next step in management will be a return to the Premier League.
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"But my next step will be to go back [to England] if possible and stay for a long time."
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In July 2009, while manager of Inter, Mourinho said: "I would consider going to Manchester United but United have to consider if they want me to succeed Sir Alex Ferguson. If they do, then of course."

thenry 26-12-2011 14:25
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mal (Post 35350574)
Yes, but you also want Wenger out ;)
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35350599)
What for 2 months.:)
if he signs a few extra heads theres no problem but he doesn't putting all the funds back into the club. all is good and pathetic to argue with whats going on in the real world but such is 'football' he does need to add a few heads to stop any neglect or complacency occurring.

what he's doing is impressive yet underachieving.. can't have it all i guess :(

Russ 26-12-2011 14:27
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35350967)
He's the ONLY manager I'd be comfortable with taking over from SAF. He's young and proven in the Premiership. Where Murinho goes, success follows.

denphone 26-12-2011 14:33
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35350983)
if he signs a few extra heads theres no problem but he doesn't putting all the funds back into the club. all is good and pathetic to argue with whats going on in the real world but such is 'football' he does need to add a few heads to stop any neglect or complacency occurring.

what he's doing is impressive yet underachieving.. can't have it all i guess :(
Remember that Wenger has not got Man City type funds at his disposal so he has to be clever when he is looking for players in the transfer market because as we all know many players carry a vastly inflated transfer values and Wenger has never been one to pay over the odds.

thenry 26-12-2011 14:48
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
True but he's got at least 50mil

denphone 26-12-2011 14:53
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35350984)
He's the ONLY manager I'd be comfortable with taking over from SAF. He's young and proven in the Premiership. Where Murinho goes, success follows.
Yes Mourinho in certain ways reminds me of Brian Clough and would be welcomed back to English football by the vast majority of football supporters in this country.

wwe 26-12-2011 14:54
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
How come Suarez can play still for us? He played our last game as well but he was given an 8 match ban

denphone 26-12-2011 14:59
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by wwe (Post 35350999)
How come Suarez can play still for us? He played our last game as well but he was given an 8 match ban
But Liverpool have not received the paperwork of the FA findings and until that is received then Suarez is still free to play for Liverpool and also once Liverpool receive the paperwork they have 14 days to appeal as well so in essence his ban will not start till the middle of January at this stage.

wwe 26-12-2011 15:04
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35351001)
But Liverpool have not received the paperwork of the FA findings and until that is received then Suarez is still free to play for Liverpool and also once Liverpool receive the paperwork they have 14 days to appeal as well so in essence his ban will not start till the middle of January at this stage.
Cool thanks for that

Mal 26-12-2011 15:20
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35350984)
He's the ONLY manager I'd be comfortable with taking over from SAF. He's young and proven in the Premiership. Where Murinho goes, success follows.
I'm sorry but he is the last person who I'd want as manager.

Defensive is an understatement. I remember last year's Champions League semi-final in Madrid...

I'd rather not, thanks :)

colin25 26-12-2011 16:19
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mal (Post 35351014)
I'm sorry but he is the last person who I'd want as manager.

Defensive is an understatement. I remember last year's Champions League semi-final in Madrid...

I'd rather not, thanks :)
I agree. I didn't like his style of football

I want attacking football...wait..are we talking about Man Utd?

ok..let him go there :D

denphone 26-12-2011 17:00
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Premier League Scores

Bolton0-2Newcastle

Chelsea1-1Fulham

Liverpool1-1Blackburn

Man Utd5-0Wigan

Stoke v Aston Villa19:45

Sunderland1-1Everton

West Brom0-0Man City


http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/default.stm


Very average result by my team again.:(:td:

Shadow Demon UK 26-12-2011 22:03
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Some great results today :)

thenry 26-12-2011 23:51
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
indeed, its starting to open up again :)

denphone 27-12-2011 04:36
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35351152)
indeed, its starting to open up again :)
Apart from the top two.:)

denphone 27-12-2011 11:20
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
http://www.sportinglife.com/football...1.html&BID=165

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Harry Redknapp has revealed he hopes to pull off one major transfer swoop in January to send out a message to the rest of the Premier League that Tottenham are a club moving in the right direction.

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"If we're going to make a signing, let's make one big signing. That would send out a message.

thenry 27-12-2011 13:25
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35351180)
Apart from the top two.:)
soon they will too :Yes:

whats your thought on this deny...

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2011/12/5.gif

denphone 27-12-2011 13:33
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35351307)
soon they will too :Yes:

whats your thought on this deny...

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2011/12/5.gif
A blatant dive from where l am looking.:(

iadom 27-12-2011 14:17
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by adzii_nufc (Post 35350614)

Very doubtful, He seems the type of player that will finish his career at Chelsea.
I thought he already had, and reading yesterdays match reports I could be right.:p:

denphone 27-12-2011 15:43
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Not going that well at half time is it thenry.:D

nffc 27-12-2011 17:43
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Full time
Arsenal 1-1 Wolves

denphone 27-12-2011 17:48
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nffc (Post 35351427)
Full time
Arsenal 1-1 Wolves
It seems that 4 teams will be chasing that 4th champions league spot and they are Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool and Newcastle as l think Spurs will get 3rd spot on their current form.

denphone 28-12-2011 05:00
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Premier League results


Arsenal1-1Wolves

Norwich0-2Tottenham

Swansea1-1QPR


http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16260392.stm

Jameseh 28-12-2011 12:42
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35351430)
It seems that 4 teams will be chasing that 4th champions league spot and they are Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool and Newcastle as l think Spurs will get 3rd spot on their current form.
Oh how I'd love that to be the case but unless we sign Jesus in January, as Ba goes to the African Nations, we are screwed.

denphone 28-12-2011 13:38
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jameseh (Post 35351699)
Oh how I'd love that to be the case but unless we sign Jesus in January, as Ba goes to the African Nations, we are screwed.
But alas like Elvis we are still waiting for Jesus to reappear.:D

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http://www.itv.com/sport/football/ne...gesture-16326/

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Luis Suarez has been banned by the Football Association for one match and fined £20,000 for a gesture made towards Fulham fans.
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The ruling, announced by the FA, comes at a sensitive time for the Reds, who have made clear their anger over an eight-game suspension handed to the Uruguayan striker for racially abusing Manchester United's Patrice Evra.

thenry 28-12-2011 13:44
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yesterdays result felt like a defeat.

Wengers ruled out a move for Gourcuff, a possible top class player unsettled at Lyon. Could have got him for peanuts too.. pathetic man.

Russ 28-12-2011 17:18
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news...cle846832.html

Please please please let it be true.....

denphone 28-12-2011 17:24
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35351867)
http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news...cle846832.html

Please please please let it be true.....
Could very well be true but Man Utd but with their current injury list and a lot of matches to come in the remainder of the season l somehow cannot see them letting him go in January but perhaps next summer they may do business.

Cobbydaler 28-12-2011 22:46
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Suarez given one match ban for raising middle finger:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16148570.stm

You get far worse heard over the microphones during live matches...

Mal 28-12-2011 22:56
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cobbydaler (Post 35352009)
Suarez given one match ban for raising middle finger:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16148570.stm

You get far worse heard over the microphones during live matches...
I know, it's disgraceful that he didn't get more...who knows how the home crowd could reacted to the finger...there could have been a riot...you have to think of the children you know...witch-hunt I tells thee ;) :D

Mal 29-12-2011 00:59
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Superman is here! We're saved! In footballing terms anyway....and if you support Tottenham anyway...

Quote:
Originally Posted by BBC Sport
Tottenham boss Harry Redknapp has saluted Gareth Bale as a player without a "weakness in his make-up".

Bale scored twice as Tottenham won 2-0 at Norwich to record their eighth win in ten Premier League games.

Redknapp insists only the world's richest clubs could afford the Welshman but clarified Bale is not for sale.
:rofl: Made me laugh...

Is it just me, but Spurs have a slightly better team than they have had in 50 years and no to some, they are now a top team? ;)

Henkesghost 29-12-2011 08:49
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Glasgow's Green and White :D

LondonRoad 29-12-2011 08:52
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Henkesghost (Post 35352040)
Glasgow's Green and White :D
I'm glad the winds have died down. Now it's just Hail Hail :D

Russ 29-12-2011 09:01
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mal (Post 35352023)
Superman is here! We're saved! In footballing terms anyway....and if you support Tottenham anyway...

:rofl: Made me laugh...

Is it just me, but Spurs have a slightly better team than they have had in 50 years and no to some, they are now a top team? ;)
It's the first time in years they've looked like a team that might finish 4th so in Harry's eyes they're up for the premiership, World Cup, Eurovision and Grand National.

Let's see how they perform during squeaky-bum time :)

denphone 29-12-2011 09:09
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To be honest Spurs have done very well and are a lovely side to watch but the title is between the top two even at this stage of the season as once Spurs get one or two injuries to key players there is not enough strength in depth there to cope with that.

denphone 30-12-2011 08:47
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16361067.stm

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Arsenal's bid to sign Thierry Henry on a two-month loan deal is "progressing", a senior club source has told BBC Sport.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16344882.stm

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Paris St Germain are expected to announce Carlo Ancelotti as their new coach at a news conference on Friday.
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Former AC Milan boss Ancelotti is expected to be joined shortly by David Beckham, whom he coached briefly at the Italian club during the former England captain's first loan spell at the San Siro.

denphone 30-12-2011 10:55
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16290837.stm

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Bolton manager Owen Coyle has confirmed the club have agreed a fee with Chelsea for defender Gary Cahill.
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Coyle said: "There has been a fee agreed between the clubs and we have now given Gary's representatives permission to speak to Chelsea."

TheDaddy 30-12-2011 11:55
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35352050)
To be honest Spurs have done very well and are a lovely side to watch but the title is between the top two even at this stage of the season as once Spurs get one or two injuries to key players there is not enough strength in depth there to cope with that.
There's more strength in depth there than at Arsenal, Chelsea or Liverpool...

denphone 30-12-2011 12:20
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35352554)
There's more strength in depth there than at Arsenal, Chelsea or Liverpool...
Very true but like the other three clubs a injury to Bale or Modric would hit them very hard as would a RVP injury or the Suarez absence hit Arsenal and Liverpool which is unlike the two Manchester clubs who have considerable strength in depth at their disposal.

TheDaddy 30-12-2011 12:26
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35352563)
Very true but like the other three clubs a injury to Bale or Modric would hit them very hard as would a RVP injury or the Suarez absence hit Arsenal and Liverpool which is unlike the two Manchester clubs who have considerable strength in depth at their disposal.
Any team would struggle losing 2 players of that quality, replacements like Sandro, Pienaar and Kranjcar are better than most could call upon though and I actually question Utd's strength in midfield considering Gibson's still there.

denphone 30-12-2011 13:02
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35352566)
Any team would struggle losing 2 players of that quality, replacements like Sandro, Pienaar and Kranjcar are better than most could call upon though and I actually question Utd's strength in midfield considering Gibson's still there.
Yes there are many who question United's strength in midfield but yet they always seem to get results when needed and l am afraid to say that this summer coming they and one or two other clubs will be trying to prise Modric away from Spurs and are likely to succeed in their pursuit of this very talented playmaker.

thenry 30-12-2011 13:55
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35352477)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16361067.stm

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Arsenal's bid to sign Thierry Henry on a two-month loan deal is "progressing", a senior club source has told BBC Sport.
just sorting out insurance ;) on a big negative Wengers up to his old tricks.. I doubt hes going to get anyone else in.

sherer 30-12-2011 14:56
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35352575)
Yes there are many who question United's strength in midfield but yet they always seem to get results when needed and l am afraid to say that this summer coming they and one or two other clubs will be trying to prise Modric away from Spurs and are likely to succeed in their pursuit of this very talented playmaker.
I could argue we have no midfield at all in some games.

The other day we started with Park and Gibson in central midfield, two players who aren't even good enough for the club.

We have Nani on one wing and he was in one of him games where he didn't put in any effort or do anything. Can't remember who the other winger was maybe Valencia who is just as hit and miss.

No idea how we win some of our games with the team we put out

denphone 30-12-2011 15:04
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Originally Posted by sherer (Post 35352615)
I could argue we have no midfield at all in some games.

The other day we started with Park and Gibson in central midfield, two players who aren't even good enough for the club.

We have Nani on one wing and he was in one of him games where he didn't put in any effort or do anything. Can't remember who the other winger was maybe Valencia who is just as hit and miss.

No idea how we win some of our games with the team we put out
Well l wish my team could win some of their games rather then drawing six times at home this season.

denphone 30-12-2011 17:05
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16365971.stm

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Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson believes Tottenham Hotspur can win this season's Premier League title but refuses to accept that Chelsea and Arsenal are out of contention.
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The 12-time Premier League winner also confirms that defender Chris Smalling is suffering only from tonsillitis and that Dimitar Berbatov will be offered a one-year contract extension in March.
Not sure some United fans will be happy about Berbatov being offered a one year extension to his contract.

TheDaddy 30-12-2011 17:08
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35352666)

Not sure some United fans will be happy about Berbatov being offered a one year extension to his contract.
Not sure offering it to him in March will do any good, he's free to talk to foreign clubs from Sunday regardless of Utd's year extension clause.

denphone 30-12-2011 17:13
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35352667)
Not sure offering it to him in March will do any good, he's free to talk to foreign clubs from Sunday regardless of Utd's year extension clause.
l personally have never been a lover of Berbatov lazy and Languid style as l think someone like Hernandez is a much better team player with a far better workrate to match.

thenry 30-12-2011 17:26
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sit back and enjoy :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTebx...embedded#at=18

keep the vid alive :)

sherer 30-12-2011 18:31
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35352671)
l personally have never been a lover of Berbatov lazy and Languid style as l think someone like Hernandez is a much better team player with a far better workrate to match.
If Berbatov played like he did for Spurs he would be great but for whatever reason he's another player we signed who was good and didn't perform for us.

Still not convinced about Hernandez, yes he gets a few goals but most of bounced off him or tap ins from the 6 yard area. His off the ball running and link up play still needs a lot of work

Derek 30-12-2011 20:58
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Originally Posted by Henkesghost (Post 35352040)
Glasgow's Green and White :D
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Originally Posted by LondonRoad (Post 35352042)
I'm glad the winds have died down. Now it's just Hail Hail :D
Funny how the conspiracy theories aren't as prominent any more. ;)

The only positive I can see is the manky mob only managed a slim victory at home against the worst Rangers team I can remember.

Anyway UEFA's spat with Sion continues with Sion getting a points deduction of 36 points for daring to take them on via the courts. :shocked:

Henkesghost 30-12-2011 21:07
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Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35352728)
Funny how the conspiracy theories aren't as prominent any more. ;)

The only positive I can see is the manky mob only managed a slim victory at home against the worst Rangers team I can remember.

Anyway UEFA's spat with Sion continues with Sion getting a points deduction of 36 points for daring to take them on via the courts. :shocked:
Ha ha hurtin are ye mate? Away and pay yer taxes, tick tick tick:D

denphone 30-12-2011 21:41
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Premier League score

Liverpool 3 Newcastle 1

Unconvincing but three points at the end of the day.:D

thenry 30-12-2011 21:45
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good goal line clearance by Skrtel den

Shadow Demon UK 30-12-2011 22:37
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35352667)
Not sure offering it to him in March will do any good, he's free to talk to foreign clubs from Sunday regardless of Utd's year extension clause.
He has to take the one year extension if United give it to him, its a clause that the club just has to exercise. For some reason March is the earliest it can be signed, so it all makes sense.

Uncle Peter 31-12-2011 01:27
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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35352740)
good goal line clearance by Skrtel den
http://youtu.be/_I-HGv3rWlo

that's what you call putting your body on the line

denphone 31-12-2011 05:15
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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35352740)
good goal line clearance by Skrtel den
Yes it was a brilliant clearance by a player having his best season so far with Liverpool and also a crucial win that keeps us on the tails of Arsenal and Chelsea.

TheDaddy 31-12-2011 09:04
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
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Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK (Post 35352752)
He has to take the one year extension if United give it to him, its a clause that the club just has to exercise. For some reason March is the earliest it can be signed, so it all makes sense.
It doesn't make sense to me

Berbatov would be free to talk to clubs outside England on January 1 unless Manchester United take up their one-year option to extend his current deal, which expires in June.

http://www.clubcall.com/manchester-u...k-1360163.html

Shadow Demon UK 31-12-2011 10:41
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They've told him they will take up the one year option clause, so i assume that means he won't be allowed to speak with other clubs. It just doesn't come into effect until March.

denphone 31-12-2011 13:04
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
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Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK (Post 35352823)
They've told him they will take up the one year option clause, so i assume that means he won't be allowed to speak with other clubs. It just doesn't come into effect until March.
Not sure Man Utd will want him now after giving away a silly penalty against Blackburn.:dozey:

Russ 31-12-2011 13:19
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As if I couldn't stand Donkey any more...

denphone 31-12-2011 13:25
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Lazy, can't tackle and moody are just some of the things l would describe Berbatov as.

thenry 31-12-2011 14:08
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you were saying? Berba scores 2 levelling the scoring 2-2 :LOL:

denphone 31-12-2011 14:11
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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35352905)
you were saying? Berba scores 2 levelling the scoring 2-2 :LOL:
Trust me to open my mouth again.:notme::notme:

Russ 31-12-2011 14:14
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If he was able to do this more often and when it counts, we wouldn't want the idiot out.

thenry 31-12-2011 14:26
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wow :LOL:


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