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nstokes 04-06-2012 16:33

Re: The iPhone thread
 
anyone got Facebook login issues? Mine says down for maintenace but been down all day. Working on mates Andriod phone

Russ 04-06-2012 16:35

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Working fine here.

dilli-theclaw 04-06-2012 16:42

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It's ok here too :)

nstokes 04-06-2012 17:47

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thats strange. still not working for me. when i was in it earlier it loaded and refreshed lastest updates but then kicked out and had the error ever since. i have even ended from ultitasking and satrted again and same thing

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i think my account has been hacked. I have tried logging in on safrai and same says unavailbe but i log in on an old account and works fine

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Logged in to site from home now and messgae says "Account temporarily unavailable
Your account is currently unavailable due to a site issue. We expect this to be resolved shortly. Please try again in a few minutes." which is very strange. i have tried resseting password and email/sms hasnt come through which has been nealry 1 hr since requested. Have i been hacked?

Stuart 04-06-2012 17:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nstokes (Post 35436850)
thats strange. still not working for me. when i was in it earlier it loaded and refreshed lastest updates but then kicked out and had the error ever since. i have even ended from ultitasking and satrted again and same thing

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i think my account has been hacked. I have tried logging in on safrai and same says unavailbe but i log in on an old account and works fine

---------- Post added at 16:47 ---------- Previous post was at 15:47 ----------

Logged in to site from home now and messgae says "Account temporarily unavailable
Your account is currently unavailable due to a site issue. We expect this to be resolved shortly. Please try again in a few minutes." which is very strange. i have tried resseting password and email/sms hasnt come through which has been nealry 1 hr since requested. Have i been hacked?

It's unlikely your account has been hacked. It's more likely that Facebook are having problems with problems with the server(s) hosting it..

nstokes 04-06-2012 18:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuart (Post 35436870)
It's unlikely your account has been hacked. It's more likely that Facebook are having problems with problems with the server(s) hosting it..

Makes sense but its just odd that 1 of my accounts work fine and the other one doesnt. Also the fact its been down all day

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It seems its up and running again now. Thank god it wasnt a hacker. Seems a few people on my friends list has had an issue as well

Stuart 04-06-2012 19:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nstokes (Post 35436872)
Makes sense but its just odd that 1 of my accounts work fine and the other one doesnt. Also the fact its been down all day

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It seems its up and running again now. Thank god it wasnt a hacker. Seems a few people on my friends list has had an issue as well

On the face of it, it is odd. However, we don't know how Facebook organise their servers. It's entirely possible some accounts access facebook via one server, and another group accesses it via another.

nstokes 04-06-2012 19:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuart (Post 35436892)
On the face of it, it is odd. However, we don't know how Facebook organise their servers. It's entirely possible some accounts access facebook via one server, and another group accesses it via another.

True point

Tim Deegan 06-07-2012 20:38

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I don't know if anybody can help.

I may receive urgent text messages at any time of day or night. And it is essential that I wake up when the message comes through. So I have tried customising the text alert tone for the number in question. However my problem is that I can only get it to do a short alert tone. Does anyone know how I can get it to play the alert for longer for text messages, so that I wake up?

Sirius 06-07-2012 20:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Deegan (Post 35450422)
I don't know if anybody can help.

I may receive urgent text messages at any time of day or night. And it is essential that I wake up when the message comes through. So I have tried customising the text alert tone for the number in question. However my problem is that I can only get it to do a short alert tone. Does anyone know how I can get it to play the alert for longer for text messages, so that I wake up?

What phone are you using ?

Russ 06-07-2012 20:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35450424)
What phone are you using ?

I'm guessing the thread title may provide a clue :angel:

Tim, have you got a customised tone for your texts on your phone or a standard one?

Tim Deegan 06-07-2012 21:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35450424)
What phone are you using ?

An iphone 4.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35450427)
I'm guessing the thread title may provide a clue :angel:

Tim, have you got a customised tone for your texts on your phone or a standard one?

Yes I've changed it to a customised one that sounds nothing like any other tones. But it only goes off for a couple of seconds at the most. I need it to go off for about 20 seconds if possible.

Russ 06-07-2012 21:18

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I've got a few songs I use as ringtones and each of them are set at 30 seconds in duration. I just went in to my 4S and set one of them as my text tone and it plays for the full 30 seconds. Does that not happen with yours?

Tim Deegan 06-07-2012 21:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35450450)
I've got a few songs I use as ringtones and each of them are set at 30 seconds in duration. I just went in to my 4S and set one of them as my text tone and it plays for the full 30 seconds. Does that not happen with yours?

I'll try that Russ.

How do I save a song as an alert tone?

Russ 06-07-2012 21:33

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Home>>settings>>sounds>>text tone>> scroll down to the song in your customised alerts that you want to use, tap on it then back to Home.

Sirius 06-07-2012 21:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35450427)
I'm guessing the thread title may provide a clue :angel:

Tim, have you got a customised tone for your texts on your phone or a standard one?

:LOL: indeed

Tim Deegan 06-07-2012 22:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35450457)
Home>>settings>>sounds>>text tone>> scroll down to the song in your customised alerts that you want to use, tap on it then back to Home.

I think I misunderstood when you asked if I had customised alerts. I thought you just meant changing the alert for a particular number.

I can't find out how to add songs to the list.

Russ 06-07-2012 22:13

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It's a bit of a potch, but this is how you do it...

http://www.gottabemobile.com/2011/10...or-the-iphone/

Tim Deegan 06-07-2012 22:23

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Many thanks Russ. I'll give it a go.

Stuart 17-07-2012 10:30

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Installed iOS 6 Beta 3 last night.

Seems a little snappier than beta 2. Still got the memory leak though.

However, rather worryingly, at some point last night, the glass on the front of my iphone cracked. Hopefully the two aren't linked.

Russ 23-08-2012 22:58

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Anyone else tried the new Facebook app? The Zuck announced it on his page earlier today. It's been written in Objective-C and I can really notice a difference in speed, a lot more snappier.

Stuart 23-08-2012 23:08

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Yeah I noticed that. On WiFi at least, it did nearly everything instantly..

Tezcatlipoca 24-08-2012 01:38

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It does seem better, now it's a proper app and not just a crappy front-end for the crappy mobile site.

But...

- It still does not let you mention people in your posts.

- It still does not let you share photos posted by other people.

Halcyon 04-09-2012 10:37

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IPhone 5 mockup looking more and more like it will be final design:

http://youtu.be/5NxwD_NhIZ8

Derek 06-09-2012 12:53

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Looks almost certain it'll be announced next week on the 12th.

Have to say I'm a little underwhelmed so far with what seems to be a slight lengthening of the screen, if it's not a jump forward I might be jumping ship to a Galaxy 3.

Hugh 06-09-2012 12:55

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I had the S3 on trial - I found it a little bit too large as a handset.

Derek 06-09-2012 12:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35471362)
I had the S3 on trial - I found it a little bit too large as a handset.

I'm the lone iPhone holdout in my team at work, everyone else has a galaxy 2 or 3. I lik them but they are a bit bulky. If the new iPhone gets up to their size I would lose one of the reasons for keeping out the gang. :)

dilli-theclaw 06-09-2012 13:04

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I just switched from my iPhone (4) to a galaxy s2.

I was waiting for android to catchup with apples excellent built in accessibility.

Although I'm very happy with my s2, I'm still impressed with the iPhone.

I still have my iPod touch 32gb though so not entirely away from apple yet.

Vieil Homme 06-09-2012 14:03

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Help please

My Daughter is looking to get an iPhone 4s. The best deal found so far is a payment of £150 for the 16Gb handset then £27.00 per month for 24 months on the 3 network giving 300 min talk time 5000 Texts and unlimited data.

She is with Orange/T-mobile and the signal is total rubbish on part of the Kent uni campus she is on, she has to go to the top of the computer science block to get a signal. So that network is off the card.

Any thoughts or suggestions.

jb66 06-09-2012 14:27

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do not buy a 4s untill the 5 is out later this month, then decide

Russ 06-09-2012 14:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Vieil Homme (Post 35471378)
Help please

My Daughter is looking to get an iPhone 4s. The best deal found so far is a payment of £150 for the 16Gb handset then £27.00 per month for 24 months on the 3 network giving 300 min talk time 5000 Texts and unlimited data.

She is with Orange/T-mobile and the signal is total rubbish on part of the Kent uni campus she is on, she has to go to the top of the computer science block to get a signal. So that network is off the card.

Any thoughts or suggestions.

Is it going to be in her name? The reason I ask is my ex is in university and she managed to wrangle a 20% student discount from Vodafone for my 4S.

I get 900 minutes, unlimited texts and 750mb of data as well as 2GBs of free BT OpenZone wifi access. The phone (16gb) was free and should have been £41 per month but with the discount it's £32.86, 24 month contract.

HTH

Damien 06-09-2012 15:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Vieil Homme (Post 35471378)
Help please

My Daughter is looking to get an iPhone 4s. The best deal found so far is a payment of £150 for the 16Gb handset then £27.00 per month for 24 months on the 3 network giving 300 min talk time 5000 Texts and unlimited data.

She is with Orange/T-mobile and the signal is total rubbish on part of the Kent uni campus she is on, she has to go to the top of the computer science block to get a signal. So that network is off the card.

Any thoughts or suggestions.

I went to Kent! I presume you mean Darwin? Not sure you'll have much on any network in that building. You best part is, if you have access to a unlocked phone, getting a pay as you go sim card from each prospective network and see how you get on with reception on each of them.

Stephen 06-09-2012 16:59

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I did have an iPhone 3gs years ago but after a Pre and settling with android I have had an S2 and now the S3. Its certainly not bulky, although its got a mighty big screen its really light and pretty thin. Even now trying to use an S2 I feel its too small in my hands lol.

From what I have seen of the possible New iPhone, it doesn't look great at all. I'd definately consider the S3. Its soon to get the Jelly Bean update as well.

Tezcatlipoca 06-09-2012 19:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Vieil Homme (Post 35471378)
Help please

My Daughter is looking to get an iPhone 4s. The best deal found so far is a payment of £150 for the 16Gb handset then £27.00 per month for 24 months on the 3 network giving 300 min talk time 5000 Texts and unlimited data.

She is with Orange/T-mobile and the signal is total rubbish on part of the Kent uni campus she is on, she has to go to the top of the computer science block to get a signal. So that network is off the card.

Any thoughts or suggestions.

Tell her to wait!

The next iPhone is expected to be announced on the 12th of September.

http://www.macrumors.com/2012/09/04/...-september-12/


Also: Kent FTW! Like Damien, I went there too. Although I graduated in 1999 :erm:

Vieil Homme 06-09-2012 22:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 35471498)
Tell her to wait!

The next iPhone is expected to be announced on the 12th of September.

http://www.macrumors.com/2012/09/04/...-september-12/


Also: Kent FTW! Like Damien, I went there too. Although I graduated in 1999 :erm:

Thanks for your input, only problem is cost. The new iPone 5 will be in excess of £40 per month with not much airtime given or data and the airtime providers will have stock of the 4S which they will want to move to make room for the new iPhone 5 so My thoughts are to get one now as the 4s is still a good smartphone.

Regarding Kent Uni it now has quite big accommodation blocks added. I wonder if they will be able to fill them now the cost of one years tuition is £9,000ish. My daughter is lucky as they are paying her fees and paying a Stipendiary payment plus teaching fees.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35471390)
I went to Kent! I presume you mean Darwin? Not sure you'll have much on any network in that building. You best part is, if you have access to a unlocked phone, getting a pay as you go sim card from each prospective network and see how you get on with reception on each of them.

I know 5 years ago when Jen started she was in Darwin. I thought that was the accommodation block and the O2 network was total rubbish while Orange worked ok so I don't know what Orange are doing to have such a rubbish signal on Campus now and as we know the iPhone is not as good at picking up a signal. Our daughter is a Research Student (PhD) and Assistant Lecturer at the school of Computing (Cornwallis) Thats where her Orange phone does not work unless she goes to the top floor.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35471383)
Is it going to be in her name? The reason I ask is my ex is in university and she managed to wrangle a 20% student discount from Vodafone for my 4S.

I get 900 minutes, unlimited texts and 750mb of data as well as 2GBs of free BT OpenZone wifi access. The phone (16gb) was free and should have been £41 per month but with the discount it's £32.86, 24 month contract.

HTH

Thanks for the input and yes it will be in her name but I can't find any company that gives a student discount. We have it down to £27 for 24 Months plus a one off charge of £150. The only problem its with the 3 Network

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jb66 (Post 35471382)
do not buy a 4s untill the 5 is out later this month, then decide

Only problem will be the cost she is a student :D

Tezcatlipoca 06-09-2012 22:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Vieil Homme (Post 35471555)
Thanks for your input, only problem is cost. The new iPone 5 will be in excess of £40 per month with not much airtime given or data and the airtime providers will have stock of the 4S which they will want to move to make room for the new iPhone 5 so My thoughts are to get one now as the 4s is still a good smartphone.

I doubt that prices of the 4S will fall before the 5 is released.

I don't know about the networks, but Apple itself doesn't keep huge stocks of things. It turns around its entire inventory quite quickly.

IMO, if prices of the 4S are to fall it will happen after the release of the 5 (much like the price of earlier models fell when the 4S was released, and so on...).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vieil Homme (Post 35471555)
Regarding Kent Uni it now has quite big accommodation blocks added. I wonder if they will be able to fill them now the cost of one years tuition is £9,000ish. My daughter is lucky as they are paying her fees and paying a Stipendiary payment plus teaching fees.

I was lucky in that I started the year before the orignal fees were first brought in, so had a grant & loan all the way through with no fees at all. If I were going now, I think the current fees would definitely put me off! :(

Russ 06-09-2012 22:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Vieil Homme (Post 35471555)
Thanks for the input and yes it will be in her name but I can't find any company that gives a student discount. We have it down to £27 for 24 Months plus a one off charge of £150. The only problem its with the 3 Network

She only managed to get the discount by calling them up, have you tried that? They have different offers from the stores.

Vieil Homme 06-09-2012 23:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35471568)
She only managed to get the discount by calling them up, have you tried that? They have different offers from the stores.

Will try again but this time I will try the shops rather than the main phone number thanks

Shadow Demon UK 07-09-2012 01:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 35471498)
Also: Kent FTW! Like Damien, I went there too. Although I graduated in 1999 :erm:


Another Kent graduate here! :p:


And yes, the phone signal on campus was always very poor...

Tezcatlipoca 07-09-2012 01:45

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Ha, another! :D

I went so long ago, it was before I even had a mobile phone. Don't think anyone I knew there had one either!

Vieil Homme 07-09-2012 15:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 35471630)
Ha, another! :D

I went so long ago, it was before I even had a mobile phone. Don't think anyone I knew there had one either!

I'v had one since 1987 (a mobile phone) it was the Motorola 8000x then in about 1990 I went over to the then new Hutchinson Orange flip phone with a credit card size sim card which gave you free calls with your monthly charge of £25 I think, I then had a Nokia 101 GSM on Orange.. how they have moved on.

Regarding my search for an iPhone on a student deal nobody offers student deals so they say BUT the 3 Network offer is £29 per month for 24month which gives you 500 min talk time 5000 text and all you can eat data phone cost reduced from £49 to £29.00 for the iPhone 4S 16 Gb black or white.

Yes I know the iPone 5 is coming out soon but the monthly cost will be much higher with less airtime, unless you know a better deal........

Thanks for all the advice :)

Halcyon 07-09-2012 18:42

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I've seen the Galaxy S3 and find it too big, more like a calculator.
I like the IPhone 5's shape and size.

What I'd like to know now is a feature list so I can see how dramatically different or not it will be from my Iphone 4.

Tezcatlipoca 07-09-2012 19:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Vieil Homme (Post 35471750)
I'v had one since 1987 (a mobile phone) it was the Motorola 8000x then in about 1990 I went over to the then new Hutchinson Orange flip phone with a credit card size sim card which gave you free calls with your monthly charge of £25 I think, I then had a Nokia 101 GSM on Orange.. how they have moved on.

Regarding my search for an iPhone on a student deal nobody offers student deals so they say BUT the 3 Network offer is £29 per month for 24month which gives you 500 min talk time 5000 text and all you can eat data phone cost reduced from £49 to £29.00 for the iPhone 4S 16 Gb black or white.

Yes I know the iPone 5 is coming out soon but the monthly cost will be much higher with less airtime, unless you know a better deal........

Thanks for all the advice :)

I still think that it is worth waiting :)

When the 5 comes out, the price of the 4S should surely drop. Instead of 3GS < 4 < 4S it should be 4 < 4S < 5.

Russ 08-09-2012 11:25

Re: The iPhone thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vieil Homme (Post 35471750)

Regarding my search for an iPhone on a student deal nobody offers student deals so they say

My ex managed to get one for herself and me :shrug:

Tezcatlipoca 12-09-2012 21:34

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So, it's official: iPhone 5

http://www.apple.com/iphone/

http://www.apple.com/iphone/compare-iphones/


- 4" 1136-by-640-pixel "Retina" display (326 ppi, 16:9 aspect ratio)

- Thinner and lighter than the 4S

- WiFi a/b/g/n (with dual-band n)

- HSPA, HSPA+, DC-HSDPA... and LTE ("4G"). It will work with Everything Everywhere's LTE in the UK.

- "Apple A6" system-on-a-chip, which is "twice as fast" as the dual-core "A5" used in the iPhone 4S... suggesting it's probably been bumped to a quad-core ARM Cortex-A9 CPU and quad-core PowerVR SGX543 GPU (Apple never gives details, so we'll have to wait for iFixit to do a teardown).

- Improved cameras

- Smaller "Lightning" connector.

- Nano-SIM



Pre-orders start on Friday the 14th of September, and the release date is Friday the 21st of September.

Same pricing as the 4S currently has (at least in the US).

Comes with iOS6.

iOS6 is released for other iOS devices on Wednesday the 19th of September.

Tricky Trevor 12-09-2012 21:46

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What about the ipod mini,is that not happening?

Tezcatlipoca 12-09-2012 22:00

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All the rumours point to October for the iPad Mini.

It wouldn't make sense to have both that and the iPhone 5 competing for attention at the same time.

EDIT:

Oh, but the iPods have been updated. iTunes is also finally getting overhauled.

Peter_ 12-09-2012 22:23

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The iPhone may get a release date of around the 21 September if it follows the normal release date process, we may find out more information in work tomorrow as I expect many people will be calling to try and preorder it.;)

Lew 12-09-2012 22:41

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Meh.

broadbandking 12-09-2012 22:54

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No new design I see then, I am very tempted too upgrade to the iphone 5 next year though

Hom3r 12-09-2012 22:56

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Don't waste you money get a Droid phone, far cheaper on the wallet Plus you can upgrad RAM and put in a replacement battery

Tezcatlipoca 12-09-2012 23:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_ (Post 35473763)
The iPhone may get a release date of around the 21 September if it follows the normal release date process, we may find out more information in work tomorrow as I expect many people will be calling to try and preorder it.;)

Erm... ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 35473736)
Pre-orders start on Friday the 14th of September, and the release date is Friday the 21st of September.

Quote:

Originally Posted by broadbandking (Post 35473774)
No new design I see then, I am very tempted too upgrade to the iphone 5 next year though

No new design?

It's taller and thinner with a larger screen...

Russ 12-09-2012 23:11

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I might be tempted to wander about in my local Chavs4U store and see how long it take for them to try to sign me up for a new 5 :D

Peter_ 13-09-2012 07:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 35473780)
Erm... ;)





No new design?

It's taller and thinner with a larger screen...

I was not in work for its announcement but was well aware that upon any announcement it would follow normal business practice and be released on 21st September.

Stephen 13-09-2012 09:49

Re: The iPhone thread
 
Looks very meh......

Nothing really outstanding and apart from a longer screen the design is very similar to the 4 still.

Vieil Homme 13-09-2012 10:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35473847)
Looks very meh......

Nothing really outstanding and apart from a longer screen the design is very similar to the 4 still.

So size does matter to some :D the connection port is smaller.

Did you see it only costs Apple $135 to make the iPhone. :shocked:

Stephen 13-09-2012 10:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Vieil Homme (Post 35473850)
So size does matter to some :D the connection port is smaller.

Did you see it only costs Apple $135 to make the iPhone. :shocked:

oh wow a new connector, lol. Not exactly all that amazing. If it was micro USB like every other phone that would have been better.

Also still no NFC is a bit of a let down.

Size does matter. I have the Galaxy S3 ;)

dilli-theclaw 13-09-2012 10:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Vieil Homme (Post 35473850)

Did you see it only costs Apple $135 to make the iPhone. :shocked:

How much of that costing is software development?

Derek 13-09-2012 11:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35473862)
Also still no NFC is a bit of a let down.

Does NFC have many real world applications yet? It's interesting but not having it isn't a deal breaker for me.

I'm out of contract and due an upgrade. It's probably enough of a jump from the 4 to make me stay apple, from what I've seen of the new android phones they are nice but not nice enough to make me start again phone and app wise.

Stephen 13-09-2012 11:26

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Well the nfc bank card I have is starting to get used a bit more now fast food and coffee places around Glasgow and in Central Station are geting the new card readers.

Shame my mobile NFC can't be used yet as there is some weird things with google wallet making it to the UK.

martyh 13-09-2012 16:58

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WOW ,Apple invented another phone that looks exactly the same as the other 4 phones .........oh wait it's not the same ,the docking port is different so none of the expensive gadgets you bought for the other phone will connect unless you buy another expensive toy to connect them ,i bet any money that in a few months time there will be a iphone s that has the gadgets on it that where supposed to be in this one

jb66 13-09-2012 17:16

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It's really thin, that's about it

martyh 13-09-2012 17:22

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Apple will sell the adapter for $29 which at todays market should be around £18 ....but they won't ,they will sell it for £25 ,what a rip .

This mad me laugh

Quote:

Mat Honan from Wired said the phone is "an amazing triumph of technology" but "every bit as exciting as a 25mph drive through a sensible neighbourhood at a reasonable time of day".
http://news.sky.com/story/984696/iph...ver-25-adaptor

Peter_ 13-09-2012 19:38

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If you are a Vodafone customer and you are interested in the iPhone 5 click this link to register your interest and someone will get back to you to go over the details.

CLICK HERE.

Tezcatlipoca 13-09-2012 19:56

Re: The iPhone thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_ (Post 35473833)
I was not in work for its announcement but was well aware that upon any announcement it would follow normal business practice and be released on 21st September.

What does being in work matter?

The point of my post was that your previous post said that the iPhone 5 "may" be released "around" the 21st of September if Apple followed the "normal release date process", and so I was pointing out that I had already posted the actual officially confirmed date of the 21st of September in my previous post, a date already confirmed by Apple during the "media" event and already on Apple's website.

If you were "well aware" , then why all the "may" & "around" & "if"?


Quote:

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35473987)
WOW ,Apple invented another phone that looks exactly the same as the other 4 phones .........

... except that it doesn't look exactly the same. And there are five other iPhones.

Although admittedly it has a similar design to the 4/4S (albeit thinner and taller!) it does not look at all the same as the original, the 3G, or the 3GS.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jb66 (Post 35473990)
It's really thin, that's about it

... and taller, and has a larger screen, and a better CPU, and a better GPU, and better cameras, and LTE*...


*[If you live in the right area and have the right network ;) :rolleyes:]

Peter_ 13-09-2012 20:14

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Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 35474054)
What does being in work matter?

The point of my post was that your previous post said that the iPhone 5 "may" be released "around" the 21st of September if Apple followed the "normal release date process", and so I was pointing out that I had already posted the actual officially confirmed date of the 21st of September in my previous post, a date already confirmed by Apple during the "media" event and already on Apple's website.

If you were "well aware" , then why all the "may" & "around" & "if"?

Business sensitive information as per any similar business.

It followed on from the similar releases of the previous iPhones.

As above pre register as soon as possible if you want a iPhone 5.

Many colleagues have been waiting for its release so have been in 30 day rolling contracts waiting to upgrade.

Osem 13-09-2012 20:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35473987)
WOW ,Apple invented another phone that looks exactly the same as the other 4 phones .........oh wait it's not the same ,the docking port is different so none of the expensive gadgets you bought for the other phone will connect unless you buy another expensive toy to connect them ,i bet any money that in a few months time there will be a iphone s that has the gadgets on it that where supposed to be in this one

Sums it up for me. lol

Jameseh 13-09-2012 20:42

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What's with the remarks about the dock connector? The current one has been used for 9 years, Samsung have had 4 different ports in that time (propriety, miniUSB, microUSB, tablet propriety).

They changed it so it can be plugged in either way and so there is more room in the phone for other components.

Stuart 13-09-2012 20:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35473987)
WOW ,Apple invented another phone that looks exactly the same as the other 4 phones .........oh wait it's not the same ,the docking port is different so none of the expensive gadgets you bought for the other phone will connect unless you buy another expensive toy to connect them ,i bet any money that in a few months time there will be a iphone s that has the gadgets on it that where supposed to be in this one

You're getting it mixed up with Android.. Apple release a new iPhone every year. It's the likes of Samsung and HTC who release new models every couple of months.

I find it funny. People are moaning that the only things that have changed are that it has a slightly faster CPU, slightly bigger screen and a slightly better camera. Yet, when Samsung, HTC, Motorola etc release a new phone, people get excited that it has a slightly faster CPU, a slightly bigger screen and a slightly better camera.

Tezcatlipoca 13-09-2012 20:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_ (Post 35474057)
Business sensitive information as per any similar business.

It followed on from the similar releases of the previous iPhones.

As above pre register as soon as possible if you want a iPhone 5.

Many colleagues have been waiting for its release so have been in 30 day rolling contracts waiting to upgrade.


Eh?

Sorry, I'm not sure you get my point, as I certainly don't get yours.

You posted about how it "may" be released "around" the 21st of September if Apple followed the "normal release date process", and so I posted pointing out that I had already posted the actual officially confirmed date of the 21st of September in my previous post, a date already confirmed by Apple during the "media event" and already on Apple's website.

No "may", "around" or "if" about it, and no need for you or anyone else to have been in work to be able to access "business sensitive information" regarding whether it would be release on or "around" the 21st.

Apple confirmed the release date during the "media event" and added it to its website.

The release date was then posted all over the internet, based upon the official date already confirmed by Apple.

Here at CF, I had posted the date based upon the official date already confirmed by Apple.

You then later posted as if there was no set date and that it "may" be "around" the 21st and you'd find out more the next day.

I posted to simply point out that you were late with your post giving the date, and that there was no "may" about it: It had already been confirmed by Apple earlier.

Russ 13-09-2012 20:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_ (Post 35474057)
Business sensitive information as per any similar business.

It followed on from the similar releases of the previous iPhones.

As above pre register as soon as possible if you want a iPhone 5.

Many colleagues have been waiting for its release so have been in 30 day rolling contracts waiting to upgrade.

No.

In this post Matt mentions the confirmed release date.

Later you made this post where you speculate on the release date which Matt had already confirmed early.

Not sure how that's anything to do with 'business sensitive information'.

Tezcatlipoca 13-09-2012 20:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuart (Post 35474072)
You're getting it mixed up with Android.. Apple release a new iPhone every year. It's the likes of Samsung and HTC who release new models every couple of months.

I find it funny. People are moaning that the only things that have changed are that it has a slightly faster CPU, slightly bigger screen and a slightly better camera. Yet, when Samsung, HTC, Motorola etc release a new phone, people get excited that it has a slightly faster CPU, a slightly bigger screen and a slightly better camera.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2012/09/37.jpg

martyh 13-09-2012 20:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuart (Post 35474072)
You're getting it mixed up with Android.. Apple release a new iPhone every year. It's the likes of Samsung and HTC who release new models every couple of months.

I find it funny. People are moaning that the only things that have changed are that it has a slightly faster CPU, slightly bigger screen and a slightly better camera. Yet, when Samsung, HTC, Motorola etc release a new phone, people get excited that it has a slightly faster CPU, a slightly bigger screen and a slightly better camera.

To be perfectly honest all these touch screen jobbies look the same to me but i suppose that is down to the practicality of the phone ,you need an oblong case with a glass screen for practical useability

bit like a Porsche really ,good piece of kit but they all look the same

Peter_ 13-09-2012 21:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35474075)
No.

In this post Matt mentions the confirmed release date.

Later you made this post where you speculate on the release date which Matt had already confirmed early.

Not sure how that's anything to do with 'business sensitive information'.

I missed the above post so just posted the speculative date which is all it was until yesterday when Apple confirmed the release, only Apple knew for certain up to the announcement.

Tezcatlipoca 13-09-2012 21:11

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Fair enough :) I guess you missed the announcement itself as well as my post ;)

Peter_ 13-09-2012 21:16

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Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 35474084)
Fair enough :) I guess you missed the announcement itself as well as my post ;)

I was not in work at that time and not sure if i was even online either at least you can preregister if you want one.

Tezcatlipoca 13-09-2012 21:28

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Yeah. So far it seems that pre-orders are just for SIM free unlocked. Don't know yet if Apple will also allow people to register one online for collection at an Apple Store. Apple did that for the release of the iPhone 4, but IIRC although it did do reservations for the 4S it was delayed a little, unlike the 4.

The networks should all be doing pre-orders, though. Well, except for O2 unless it has finally got its act together! IIRC from last year, all of them except for O2 allowed people to pre-order in advance. I think O2 also initially only sold it to existing customers.

My contract is up at the end of October. I'll be going for the iPhone 5, although I don't know if I will stick with O2. One thing that has always made me prefer O2 is that it's always had good UK-based CS. But...I read recently that some CS jobs are getting moved offshore, which removes one good thing O2 actually had over its rivals. Couple that with the fact that LTE on the iPhone 5 will only work with EE, I think I may finally move...

martyh 13-09-2012 21:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_ (Post 35474085)
I was not in work at that time and not sure if i was even online either at least you can preregister if you want one.

you on commission or something ,that's the third time you mentioned preregistering

Peter_ 13-09-2012 22:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35474089)
you on commission or something ,that's the third time you mentioned preregistering

No but if it prevents extra calls coming in that will be good news, I personally will not be going down the iPhone route as they are not the phone for me.;)

Tezcatlipoca 14-09-2012 00:50

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Tech spec speculation...


Apple hasn't come out and said whether the Apple A6 SoC is dual-core or quad-core, only that it is "twice as fast as the A5", has "2x faster CPU, 2x faster GPU", etc.

The Apple A5 SoC (iPad 2, iPhone 4S) uses a dual-core ARM Cortex-A9 CPU and a dual-core PowerVR SGX543MP2 GPU. That's the same CPU as in the Nvidia Tegra 2 SoC and also as in Samsung's own Exynos SoC found in the Galaxy S II (but inferior to the quad-core Cortex-A9 found in the Tegra 3 SoC, in Samsung's Exynos SoC in the Galaxy S III, and in Sony's PlayStation Vita), but a superior GPU to the Tegra 2's (and Tegra 3's) GeForce ULP GPU.

The Apple A5X SoC (iPad 3) uses a dual-core ARM Cortex-A9 CPU and a quad-core PowerVR SGX543MP4 GPU. Same CPU again as in the Tegra 2 and in the Galaxy S II's Exynos, but an even better GPU than the already superior dual-core SGX543 of the A5. The quad-core SGX543 GPU is also found in the PlayStation Vita.


So, the A6...Given that it has to be a step up from the A5 and A5X, and has been stated to be "2x faster" etc., many are speculating that it has the same quad-core PowerVR SGX543MP4 GPU as the A5X (so "2x the graphical power" of the A5) but with a quad-core ARM Cortex-A9 CPU like the Tegra 3, Galaxy S III and PS Vita (so "2x the CPU power" of the A5). It would seem the next logical step.


However...AnandTech has claimed that it may actually have a dual-core ARM Cortex-A15 CPU rather than a dual- or quad-core Cortex-A9. The A15 is ARM's next generation CPU, 40% faster than the A9, and is headed for the Nvidia Tegra 4 SoC and also the next Samsung Exynos SoC.


Still, this is all speculation. We'll have to wait until someone does a teardown once it's released next week.

nstokes 14-09-2012 10:24

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I normally like Apple products and Apple iPhones but i left IP4 and gor S3 eariler in the year. I saw the live launch on a blog and iPhone 5 didnt WOW me. It had no WOW factor. I think its just a iPhone 4S with a taller screen. It has a better CPU and CPU yes but at the moment still doesnt WOW me. Is it a Quad Core CPU and how much RAM does the phone have? It doesnt have NFC support so for the people that do use NFC its not a competier to its rivals. Ill stick to my S3 until my contract is up and then hope that the new iPhone by then will WOW me

Vieil Homme 14-09-2012 10:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 35474088)
Yeah. So far it seems that pre-orders are just for SIM free unlocked. Don't know yet if Apple will also allow people to register one online for collection at an Apple Store. Apple did that for the release of the iPhone 4, but IIRC although it did do reservations for the 4S it was delayed a little, unlike the 4.

Well you can now LINK

Or join the big queues on 21st September :erm: I will stick with my 4s and go for the OS upgrade. I wonder if it will run dead slow.

Regarding my daughter she has now got the 16Gb 4s on a £29.00 per month contract for 24 months giving her 600min talk 5000 text and unlimeted data. the phone cost just £29.00 none of the companies offered any student discount saying the prices were cut to the bone :erm:

Edit just a little fact. Apple sold more new iPads since its release than any PC manufacturer sold of their entire product range...!

nstokes 14-09-2012 11:16

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Been tiold by a big Apple fan mate of mine that its is NOT Quad Core but still Dual Core

Tezcatlipoca 15-09-2012 14:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Vieil Homme (Post 35474195)
Well you can now LINK

Or join the big queues on 21st September :erm: I will stick with my 4s and go for the OS upgrade. I wonder if it will run dead slow.

Regarding my daughter she has now got the 16Gb 4s on a £29.00 per month contract for 24 months giving her 600min talk 5000 text and unlimeted data. the phone cost just £29.00 none of the companies offered any student discount saying the prices were cut to the bone :erm:

Edit just a little fact. Apple sold more new iPads since its release than any PC manufacturer sold of their entire product range...!

Still no reservations for collection in store - just SIM free unlocked pre-orders for delivery.

I think Apple did do reservations for collection with the 4S, but not at launch (unlike the 4).

The networks are all doing pre-orders... Even, surprisingly, O2! Last year O2 only sold it to existing customers at launch, with no new customers, no pre-orders, and no online orders. This time, O2 is actually selling it to new and existing customers, and doing online pre-orders.

I do wonder, though, how many current and potential customers will abandon O2 for Orange / T-Mobile due to the 4G situation...



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Originally Posted by nstokes (Post 35474197)
Been tiold by a big Apple fan mate of mine that its is NOT Quad Core but still Dual Core

Unless your mate works for Apple, has been told that by Apple, or has taken one apart himself, then that it *still* just speculation.

No one knows for sure, and Apple has said nothing.

As I said before, given that Apple claims the Apple A6 is "2x faster" etc. than the Apple A5 used in the iPhone 4S and iPad 2, it would suggest it has moved to quad-core. The A5X used in the iPad 3 already has a quad-core GPU. Adding a quad-core CPU and calling it the A6 would be a logical step. However... AnandTech claim the A6 is still using a dual-core CPU, but that it is the next gen ARM Cortex-A15 rather than the Cortex-A9. If true, then it's still a jump, even though it would be "still dual core".

As Apple generally doesn't care to give away much info on specs, we won't know until someone takes it apart and investigates.

The benchmarks will also be interesting, once it's out.

martyh 15-09-2012 14:47

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won't you have to get new apps if they have put a quad core in it ?

Tezcatlipoca 15-09-2012 15:03

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Some, or all?


Didn't have to get all new apps when the iPad 2 and iPhone 4S went dual-core with the "Apple A5", or when the iPad 3 gained a quad-core GPU with the "Apple A5X".

Some apps did get updated (for free) to take proper advantage of the improved CPU and/or GPU, but there was no general "everything needs to be updated". I don't know how much of it is handled by iOS itself being updated to handled the increased core count.

martyh 15-09-2012 15:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 35474604)
Some, or all?


Didn't have to get all new apps when the iPad 2 and iPhone 4S went dual-core with the "Apple A5", or when the iPad 3 gained a quad-core GPU with the "Apple A5X".

Some apps did get updated (for free) to take proper advantage of the improved CPU and/or GPU, but there was no general "everything needs to be updated". I don't know how much of it is handled by iOS itself being updated to handled the increased core count.

I don't know myself i was just reading this, actually the bit i understand is quite interesting:)

http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/09...-a6-processor/

Vieil Homme 15-09-2012 15:31

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35474600)
won't you have to get new apps if they have put a quad core in it ?

According to apple all the old apps will run on the new iPhone 5 but they can be adjusted to take into account the extra height and better A6 chip which is said to be 2x faster in most applications. All this and more can be seen via ITunes, Podcast, Apple Keynotes/Apple Special Events/September 2012.m4v

Its looking good but I think I will wait until they bring the next faster one out. I am a little concerned in the thickness of the new iPhone. Will it break, I have had the sceen go on my 4s which cost £139.00 to replace :erm:

Tezcatlipoca 15-09-2012 15:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35474608)
I don't know myself i was just reading this, actually the bit i understand is quite interesting:)

http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/09...-a6-processor/




Interesting link :)


That's again more speculation that it's "still dual-core"... but using newer and faster architecture. Ties with what AnandTech has been saying.

New ARM Cortex-A15 CPU, instead of sticking with the A9, and a new "series 6" PowerVR GPU, instead of sticking with the "series 5XT" SGX543MP2/4.

Makes sense... Why try and cram extra cores in, when you can have the same number of cores but use ones that are newer and faster. Still get the performance increase, but without the size of power issues, and without apps needing to be re-optimised to use four cores.

martyh 15-09-2012 15:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 35474619)
Interesting link :)


That's again more speculation that it's "still dual-core"... but using newer and faster architecture. Ties with what AnandTech has been saying.

New ARM Cortex-A15 CPU, instead of sticking with the A9, and a new "series 6" PowerVR GPU, instead of sticking with the "series 5XT" SGX543MP2/4.

Makes sense... Why try and cram extra cores in, when you can have the same number of cores but use ones that are newer and faster. Still get the performance increase, but without the size of power issues, and without apps needing to be re-optimised to use four cores.

That's what i picked up on ,more is not always better and haven't i phones had issues in the past with power usage and heat buildup ?.One of the things i was curious about was how do they keep modern smartphones cool with multiple cores

Russ 15-09-2012 23:32

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http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...iPhone-4S.html

I'm loving how they managed to catch Hulk Hogan out as well :D

Stuart 16-09-2012 00:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35474600)
won't you have to get new apps if they have put a quad core in it ?

Nope. For one thing, apps optimised for 1 or 2 cores won't suddenly stop working. They just won't use the extra cores.

For another thing, Apple are surprisingly good at persuading app developers to use new features in their devices. They also don't allow developers to charge for updates. They can, however, stop development on the old app and release a new one (as ALK did with Copilot Live).

Tezcatlipoca 16-09-2012 02:01

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Further speculation on the specs...

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6292/i...15-custom-core

Not an Apple design based on the "off the shelf" ARM Cortex-A9 or A15, but a brand-new ARM-based chip designed by Apple, using the ARMv7s architecture. Similar to the A15, but custom designed by Apple.

Lew 16-09-2012 17:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuart (Post 35474732)
Nope. For one thing, apps optimised for 1 or 2 cores won't suddenly stop working. They just won't use the extra cores.

As iOS uses Grand Central Dispatch, as long as the app is written correctly the OS should automatically use however many cores each device has.

nstokes 17-09-2012 14:20

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hands on review http://www.reghardware.com/2012/09/1...nds_on_review/

wwe 18-09-2012 19:47

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When will the i06 software be out for the iPhone 4s?

Russ 18-09-2012 19:56

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Tomorrow.

wwe 18-09-2012 19:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35475612)
Tomorrow.

Thanks how long does it take to install as this is my 1st iPhone. Course my mates told me it takes about half a day

Russ 18-09-2012 20:06

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The last update I had took about half an hour.

Tezcatlipoca 18-09-2012 20:12

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Just make sure that you have backed up your phone beforehand, using iCloud and/or iTunes.


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