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1andrew1 06-07-2022 00:15
Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
 
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Originally Posted by Julian (Post 36127178)
You obviously don’t read very well as I have stated that I want him gone. :rolleyes: :dunce:
Does today mark a turning point or have you wanted him to resign some time ago?

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36127181)
Waiting for his Cabinet Post.

C’mon - if Dorries & Rees-Mogg can get a seat round the table…
Fair shout, can't argue with that.

Mick 06-07-2022 07:13
Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
 
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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36127175)
Myself and my wife said the same thing when we heard about the events this evening, he'll not go unless forced.
This is the thing, his refusal to leave office, even when facing political suicide, our country acts on precedents and conventions, that the outgoing Prime Minister, seeks audience with the Queen and tenders his/her resignation and name a successor. His refusal to even do this will create a Constitutional crisis.

UK does have an impeachment process, in fact, the U.S copied our impeachment process and enshrined it in to their written Constitution.

We don’t have a written Constitution, as I said above about precedents and conventions, the Prime Minister, the expectation to resign, when an election is lost, when he’s lost confidence of his own or all MPs, that he goes to Buckingham Palace and resign, name a successor, if he refuses to even do this, the Queen can’t appoint a new Prime Minister.

mrmistoffelees 06-07-2022 08:26
Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
 
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36127189)
This is the thing, his refusal to leave office, even when facing political suicide, our country acts on precedents and conventions, that the outgoing Prime Minister, seeks audience with the Queen and tenders his/her resignation and name a successor. His refusal to even do this will create a Constitutional crisis.

UK does have an impeachment process, in fact, the U.S copied our impeachment process and enshrined it in to their written Constitution.

We don’t have a written Constitution, as I said above about precedents and conventions, the Prime Minister, the expectation to resign, when an election is lost, when he’s lost confidence of his own or all MPs, that he goes to Buckingham Palace and resign, name a successor, if he refuses to even do this, the Queen can’t appoint a new Prime Minister.
What were your thoughts on Reese-Mogg on Sky News last night (if you watched it)

Mr K 06-07-2022 08:56
Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36127179)

I do wonder what Old Boy has to say on the subject?

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:D:D:D
OB tendered his resignation as the PMs CF spokesman late yesterday evening. Even an offer as Minister for Streaming Services couldn't persuade him to stay. Commentators are saying this is the final straw for Boris.... :D

jfman 06-07-2022 09:36
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36127193)
OB tendered his resignation as the PMs CF spokesman late yesterday evening. Even an offer as Minister for Streaming Services couldn't persuade him to stay. Commentators are saying this is the final straw for Boris.... :D
Last seen today at 07.56. Not in this thread though. Must be waiting on the party lines dropping from CCHQ.

Pierre 06-07-2022 10:25
Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
 
I don't know about Javid.

But Sunak and Johnson were already at odds with each other. It's quite possible he would have been removed from his post had he not just jumped.

Johnson is unlikely to go, immediately. They had their chance a few short weeks ago but failed to remove him, no good whinging now.

mrmistoffelees 06-07-2022 10:29
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36127197)
I don't know about Javid.

But Sunak and Johnson were already at odds with each other. It's quite possible he would have been removed from his post had he not just jumped.

Johnson is unlikely to go, immediately. They had their chance a few short weeks ago but failed to remove him, no good whinging now.
Fair comments, however, had they known then, what came out over the past couple of days do you think he would have still survived a vote of no confidence?

Maggy 06-07-2022 10:30
Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
 
Sadly Boris is going to be like that bit of old chewing gum you can't quite get off your shoe.

Mick 06-07-2022 10:31
Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
 
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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36127192)
What were your thoughts on Reese-Mogg on Sky News last night (if you watched it)
I didn’t watch it. I was very busy doing my occupation, of course, in the health industry where there is zero time for such drama.

Kursk 06-07-2022 10:31
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Good riddance to Sunak, Javed and the others too weak to stay in Government during difficult times.

Facing up to the difficult times is the sign of true leadership and commitment and Boris Johnson has consistently shown why he still has the mandate.

Mr K 06-07-2022 10:35
Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
 
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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36127198)
Fair comments, however, had they known then, what came out over the past couple of days do you think he would have still survived a vote of no confidence?
If they do give him no confidence wouldn't put it passed him to call a GE. i.e. if I'm going down, you all are...
It would be a fair enough call. Up to the public who they want as PM. Not a few backstabbing self interested Mps.

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Originally Posted by Kursk (Post 36127201)
Facing up to the difficult times is the sign of true leadership and commitment and Boris Johnson has consistently shown why he still has the mandate.
Funniest post of the year! :D :D :D

Mick 06-07-2022 10:41
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Interesting one for you. The Queen does have the legal might to sack the Prime Minister, but it is unlikely she will exercise such powers:

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Can the Queen sack the Prime Minister?
Whilst Queen Elizabeth II does have the power to sack the Prime Minister, it is highly unlikely that she would ever exercise it. This is because Her Majesty's role in government is mostly a ceremonial one. And as Head of State, she also has to appear politically neutral and not seen to be favouring one party over another.

"The Queen’s powers rest on convention," Vernon Bogdanor, professor of government at King’s College London (opens in new tab) told the Guardian. "She’s got quite wide legal powers but in a constitutional monarchy she shouldn’t use them except in very extreme circumstances, which I don’t think these would be.
https://www.goodto.com/royal-news/ca...inister-646848

1andrew1 06-07-2022 11:13
Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
 
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Originally Posted by Kursk (Post 36127201)
Good riddance to Sunak, Javed and the others too weak to stay in Government during difficult times.

Facing up to the difficult times is the sign of true leadership and commitment and Boris Johnson has consistently shown why he still has the mandate.
Exactly. When it comes to someone who gets it right on the important issues of the day like reintroducing Imperial measures, blue passports, and selecting the right donor-funded wallpaper, Big Dog delivers.

It's just a couple of disloyal Ministers who don't like hard work whom Johnson would have fired sooner or later for not working half as hard as he does. :D

Damien 06-07-2022 11:13
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https://twitter.com/JGForsyth/status...ySi6H6PTw&s=19

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One senior figure on the '22 tells me that they now favour a delegation going to tell Boris Johnson that it is over, and that they'll change the rules if he won't resign

jfman 06-07-2022 11:20
Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
 
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36127204)
Interesting one for you. The Queen does have the legal might to sack the Prime Minister, but it is unlikely she will exercise such powers:

https://www.goodto.com/royal-news/ca...inister-646848
If it becomes clear he doesn't have the confidence of Parliament and someone else does, is that an appropriate time to do so?

You could end up in a situation where the leader of the largest party is sitting behind him.


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