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Dave42 15-11-2018 11:52

Re: Brexit
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35970884)
"Strong and stable"...

the most true thing she said at election was coalition of chaos she just forget to say she meant herself

ianch99 15-11-2018 11:54

Re: Brexit
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35970836)
An unwarranted sneer/smear. Olly Robbins negotiated this crud Agreement.


Sneer? Smear? Calm down ...

Raab had a job called the "Secretary of State for Exiting the European Union". The role is sort of obvious really. Anyone who is paid as the "Secretary of State for Exiting the European Union" and isn't in charge of "Exiting the European Union" is a fraud. He is in Cabinet to do a job and is responsible for his portfolio. Period ..

denphone 15-11-2018 12:04

Re: Brexit
 
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35970881)
Not so sure - he is not on the front bench in the Commons, I would have thought if he supports the PM, he would be there. Probably sharpening those knives he used in Boris's back.

Well there is no word from Michael Gove’s team about where he is as its complete silence. Is he plotting?

ianch99 15-11-2018 12:07

Re: Brexit
 
Is it true? ;)

Elon Musk has arrived at 10 Downing Street with a submarine

Sephiroth 15-11-2018 12:28

Re: Brexit
 
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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 35970887)
Sneer? Smear? Calm down ...

Raab had a job called the "Secretary of State for Exiting the European Union". The role is sort of obvious really. Anyone who is paid as the "Secretary of State for Exiting the European Union" and isn't in charge of "Exiting the European Union" is a fraud. He is in Cabinet to do a job and is responsible for his portfolio. Period ..

I'm perfectly calm and correctly describing your remarks.

And there you go again, calling Raab a "fraud". You know very well what was going on in May's cabinet; she and Robbins steered the Brexit ship from the Engine Room. Raab was given a nominal role and title.

By all means sneer at May and Robbins.


ianch99 15-11-2018 12:34

Re: Brexit
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35970890)
I'm perfectly calm and correctly describing your remarks.

And there you go again, calling Raab a "fraud". You know very well what was going on in May's cabinet; she and Robbins steered the Brexit ship from the Engine Room. Raab was given a nominal role and title.

By all means sneer at May and Robbins.


You are blinded by your anger. Rabb was in charge by definition. If he wasn't in charge and did not resign as a consequence then he is a fraud. Simples ..

denphone 15-11-2018 12:36

Re: Brexit
 
Mark Francois, a Tory Brexiter and a member of the European Research Group says 84 Tory MPs planning to vote against May's deal.

Dave42 15-11-2018 12:38

Re: Brexit
 
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35970892)
Mark Francois, a Tory Brexiter and a member of the European Research Group says 84 Tory MPs planning to vote against May's deal.

as I always said Den no way will it get past parliament

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Seems that confidence and supply deal with the DUP is over. May running a minority govt (for) now

denphone 15-11-2018 12:43

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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35970893)
as I always said Den no way will it get past parliament

Not a chance Dave.

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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35970893)
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Seems that confidence and supply deal with the DUP is over. May running a minority govt (for) now

Will the last person to leave the cabinet please turn out the lights.

Mick 15-11-2018 12:53

Re: Brexit
 
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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 35970891)
You are blinded by your anger. Rabb was in charge by definition. If he wasn't in charge and did not resign as a consequence then he is a fraud. Simples ..

My word you do miss a lot memo's.

You need to stop this arguing with people with baseless rubbish all the time.

Pay attention - everyone knows, or should do that it was Civil servants working behind the scenes on the Brexit negotiations. Raab was just there to represent the British Government as the top minister for DeXeu.

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35970894)

Will the last person to leave the cabinet please turn out the lights.

That's exactly how George Osborne feels in today's edition of the Evening Standard...

https://twitter.com/George_Osborne/s...26402386235393

Revenge is a dish, best served cold.

ianch99 15-11-2018 13:04

Re: Brexit
 
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35970896)
My word you do miss a lot memo's.

You need to stop this arguing with people with baseless rubbish all the time.

Pay attention - everyone knows, or should do that it was Civil servants working behind the scenes on the Brexit negotiations. Raab was just there to represent the British Government as the top minister for DeXeu.

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That's exactly how George Osborne feels in today's edition of the Evening Standard...

https://twitter.com/George_Osborne/s...26402386235393

Revenge is a dish, best served cold.

You really do need to get a grip on reality. Raab was the cabinet minister *responsible* for the United Kingdom's withdrawal from the European Union. As such, he signs off any deal. If he didn't, he's an idiot. If he did, he's a fraud. Maybe he is both ..

denphone 15-11-2018 13:05

Re: Brexit
 
This is from the BBC’s Laura Kuenssberg.

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I've just been speaking to Dominic Raab - he told the Chief Whip at end of Cabinet he was quitting, tells me the deal won't get through Parliament, and the EU have been 'blackmailing' us - interview on @bbcnews soon

And David Mundell The Scotland secretary gives us his view on Raab.

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The Scotland secretary, David Mundell, had a brutal response to Dominic Raab’s resignation, saying he though the Brexit secretary had mainly quit to further his own ambitions.

“I’m not taking lessons on standing up for our United Kingdom from carpetbaggers,” Mundell told ITV.

Gavin78 15-11-2018 13:21

Re: Brexit
 
Looking forwards to a collapsed government and a no deal brexit. Might shut these remain voters up

Damien 15-11-2018 13:25

Re: Brexit
 
Corbyn might get the election at this rate

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Originally Posted by Gavin78 (Post 35970905)
Looking forwards to a collapsed government and a no deal brexit. Might shut these remain voters up

Yes have a disaster happen will really show Remainers up

denphone 15-11-2018 13:25

Re: Brexit
 
Suggestion from Commons sources that that May will stay in the House after the statement and see Graham Brady at 1.30pm.

It seems 48 letters have been received - the threshold needed for a vote of no confidence to go ahead.


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