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heero_yuy 15-11-2018 11:10

Re: Brexit
 
Bookies are now offering evens on May having gone by the end of the year.

Mick 15-11-2018 11:11

Re: Brexit
 
Theresa May is expected to go to the Commons in 20 minutes and stand at that dispatch box and sell this deal - she has egg on her face with two top level resignations, one of them being the guy meant to negotiate the deal with Brussels.

Angua 15-11-2018 11:12

Re: Brexit
 
Will be interesting to see who is next to jump ship.

denphone 15-11-2018 11:20

Re: Brexit
 
2 years plus of complete and utter omnishambles..

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Angua (Post 35970870)
Will be interesting to see who is next to jump ship.

Brexit minister Suella Braverman.

Dave42 15-11-2018 11:22

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35970871)
2 years plus of complete and utter omnishambles..

was always gonna happen Den as Cameron did referendum to try unite the tory party and now they more divided than ever

Mick 15-11-2018 11:22

Re: Brexit
 
Junior Brexit Minister Suella Braverman has reportedly resigned from DExEU

pip08456 15-11-2018 11:23

Re: Brexit
 
Anne Marie Trevelyan resigns. May on way to HoP.

Mick 15-11-2018 11:25

Re: Brexit
 
BBC Political Editor, Laura Kuenssberg: Chief Whip, Julian Smith has just told us the 'PM will not be bullied'

jonbxx 15-11-2018 11:29

Re: Brexit
 
For those who don't want to ready the full document, both the UK and EU have produced handy summaries which are a lot shorter;

UK - https://assets.publishing.service.go...Union___1_.pdf
EU - http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release...18-6422_en.htm

Some interesting points in there that would seem to ensure that this agreement would never fly including;
  • Continuation of freedom of movement
  • Almost full acceptance of the EU Acquis including new regulations but no say in the formation of these
  • The fact that the entire agreement is written under EU law so the ultimate arbitration body is the CJEU

Or in other words, section 114 of the UK document;

Quote:

This period of continuity will last from the moment of exit until 31
December 2020. The Withdrawal Agreement provides that during this period the UK
will no longer be a member of the EU, but will be treated as such under Union law
unless otherwise specified. This means that during this time EU law and EU
supervision and enforcement arrangements will continue to apply to the UK.
Yikes!

There are some interesting points in there that jumped out at me. There will be a continuation of SM and CU rules for the transition period but goods bought before the end of the transition but not delivered will still be covered. This has a big impact for capital projects where the goods aren't 'bought' until delivered and accepted. I am not an accountant/financial controller but I can see some good scams going on there!

denphone 15-11-2018 11:31

Re: Brexit
 
Michael Gove, the environment secretary tipped as a possible replacement for Dominic Raab as Brexit secretary.

Mick 15-11-2018 11:35

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35970879)
Michael Gove, the environment secretary tipped as a possible replacement for Dominic Raab as Brexit secretary.

Not so sure - he is not on the front bench in the Commons, I would have thought if he supports the PM, he would be there. Probably sharpening those knives he used in Boris's back.

Carth 15-11-2018 11:35

Re: Brexit
 
Shuffle a deck of cards enough times and you'll eventually get dealt a good hand ;)

unless you didn't remove the jokers

Mr K 15-11-2018 11:39

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35970881)
Not so sure - he is not on the front bench in the Commons, I would have thought if he supports the PM, he would be there. Probably sharpening those knives he used in Boris's back.

As I said, watch him......

Hugh 15-11-2018 11:45

Re: Brexit
 
"Strong and stable"...

jonbxx 15-11-2018 11:45

Re: Brexit
 
Oh, and Dominic Grieve, branded a hypocrite for tabling an amendment asking for a parliamentary vote is now helping the ERG types to defeat this agreement. Without the amendment in the exit bill, this agreement will now be set in stone from the UK side.


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