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Can't link to the story at the moment but the Eurozone have agreed some debt relief to Greece.

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Here's the article on the debt relief to Greece http://www.reuters.com/article/us-eu...-idUSKBN13V22R

I think elections in France and Germany will not be issues for the Eurozone. It's in Greece, Italy and Spain that problems may exist.

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Theresa May is a politician's politician and a clever move on her part.

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Yep, when I'm playing a high stakes game of poker I always show my cards to the audience so that they can discuss my hand within earshot of the other players :banghead:

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Leave voter British hairdresser Deir Dos Santos explains why he brought the legal challenge against Parliament not needing to vote on Article 50. Yup, it's not just Gina Miller who feels strongly on this issue.
Will the Brexit red top press term him a Monaleaver? ;)
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7395096.html

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A group of Labour MPs will refuse to vote to force Theresa May to reveal her Brexit plans – because it would also mean backing her timetable for triggering Article 50.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7460531.html

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Presumably they don't represent heavily leave-voting constituencies. Having that on your voting record could be considered electoral suicide come 2020.

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I believe they're all London MPs so shouldn't harm their re-election chances but won't enamour them to Jeremy Corbyn.

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Motion passed easily. http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/12...-50-end-march/

There is never any threat of Brexit being overturned by Parliament. Look how comfortable that majority is. May should just allow a vote on Article 50 and recognise the importance of Parliament.

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That's interesting but not particularly relevant here. The EU knows the cards that we hold; all the information about imports, exports, payments to the EU, EU nationals working in the UK, British soldiers deployed in Eastern Europe etc; it's all there in the public domain.
We know the EU needs time to get decisions from its 27 members so I cannot see the big deal in revealing what the UK Government wants, especially when the clock is ticking against us. I fear it's just been stalling by the UK Government whilst it seeks to get its own internal consensus and get a plan together. Why else wait so long?

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Agreed. May's a politician's politician but has strong tendencies to over-control things. I think that's why this lamentable situation has arisen when she could simply have put it to a vote in Parliament and won it hands-down.

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I think once we start the process of article 50 come the end of the 2 years I think it would be extended if nothing is final. lets face it it's in the best interests for everyone to get it right as it could bring the EU crashing down if its all done wrong

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The only potential problem is that either desirable outcome of the two year period (deal or extension) requires unanimous agreement. If the assembly of the walloons or whatever they are decide to dig their heels in, then no deal is possible and equally no agreement to extend negotiations is possible either. In those circumstances the U.K. automatically leaves the EU after the two years with no treaty governing its future relationship with the bloc. Trade in and out of the bloc is organised by default on WTO rules and tariffs.

Having said that, many don't see that as a major problem...

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When we buy items or services from America how is that treated? Obviously if I buy a subscription to dropbox I guess that's considered a transaction that took place in the US so how do they govern the rest of it?

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I think it's now considered a purchase in the country of the purchase, at least for VAT purposes. And some of the US companies like Airbnb and LinkedIn now operate through European subsidiaries.

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Many Conservative politicians may not but most businesses do.

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I agree. Although I doubt it would bring the EU crashing down, it wouldn't do it any favours either.

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We'll have to agree to disagree on that point :shocked:

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Just look at what is happening and what could potentially happen once we leave.

Greece is set to need yet another Bailout, to what end does the EU, having to keep doing this? Of course it's other EU Countries which are not protected from the arrangement the UK had agreed on last year for Eurozone bailouts, thank god we did not join the Euro.

So such countries in the Eurozone, will be expected to foot the bill, rich nations expected to cough up all the time and help out AGAIN, this what I mean about ALL having to pay their fair share for membership and they, Greece, are not doing, and some just expect handout after handout and ride the gravy train, it cannot continue any more and in two years, we will be out of this unbalanced financial system, that is on track to implode on itself and people want to remain in this corrupted, weaved web of financial mess. No thanks.