Cable Forum - Updated: Boris resigns as party leader

Absolutely nothing whatsoever

FPNs go nowhere near the CPS possibly unless there's a contention at court/ non payment , but the CPS aren't involved in the decision to issue.

Damien

05-07-2022 15:15

Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion

Yeah, that's very odd. Did someone commit perjury (lying on the form itself would be perjury but I would be surprised if Labour's lawyers who had input would allow that to happen)? Are they going to issue a fine and want to make sure it's airtight?

I don't believe there were ever reports of the Met going to the CPS before their decisions. No way do the CPS have input on FPNs normally.

They must be gearing up for the fine though. No way do they meet the CPS ahead of saying no laws were broken.

papa smurf

05-07-2022 15:16

Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36127084)

What's it got to do with CPS at this stage?

Prosecution :shocked:

Damien

05-07-2022 15:18

Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion

Never mind. It's normal in complex cases it seems and they did do it for Partygate: https://twitter.com/AdamWagner1/stat...20846780669953

mrmistoffelees

05-07-2022 15:22

Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36127090)

Never mind. It's normal in complex cases it seems and they did do it for Partygate: https://twitter.com/AdamWagner1/stat...20846780669953

well, I was today years old when i learned that !

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this presents a very interesting situation.....

IF Starmer & Rayner were to be issued and subsequently resign, does this give the Tory rebels more ammunition to attack Boris with, and possibly get him out?

Sephiroth

05-07-2022 15:48

Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36127091)

Icing on the cake!

1andrew1

05-07-2022 16:01

Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36127094)

Icing on the cake!

Turns out there was no meeting with the CPS afterall.

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Update on today's beergate meeting: Durham Police say there was an internal meeting today to discuss the investigation and the next steps but the CPS was NOT involved. As others have pointed out that would be interesting as FPNs are issued by police - have deleted earlier tweet.

https://twitter.com/Tony_Diver/statu...28279930376195

Damien

05-07-2022 16:02

Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion

Telegraph have retracted it: https://twitter.com/Tony_Diver/statu...28279930376195

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papa smurf

05-07-2022 16:07

Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion

The cover up has begun.

Dave42

05-07-2022 16:11

Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36127099)

The cover up has begun.

could be someone is leaking false information too truth will out in end

1andrew1

05-07-2022 16:14

Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion

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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 36127101)

could be someone is leaking false information too truth will out in end

It's just Operation Save Big Dog. Spread some Starmer rumours again on social media to disguise Johnson's latest blunder.

Current blunder is he forgot he was briefed about Pincher.

Dave42

05-07-2022 16:16

Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36127103)

It's just Operation Save Big Dog. Spread some Starmer rumours again on social media to disguise Johnson's latest blunder.

Current blunder is he forgot he was briefed about Pincher.

yes think your totally right Andrew

1andrew1

05-07-2022 16:41

Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion

This was an interesting read.

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The intervention by Lord McDonald this morning was quietly devastating.

Westminster is full of people who love shouting their mouth off.

Lord McDonald is not one of them.

A former senior civil servant not naturally attracted to microphones and cameras.

A man who in his interview on the Today Programme on Radio 4 had the demeanour and hesitancy of someone reticent to be talking publicly.

But a man who felt he had no other options, because, as he put it, No10 "are still not telling the truth".

And then, his most stinging line of all - accusing Downing Street of "telling the truth and crossing your fingers at the same time".

Day by day this means ministers are being sent out with lines to take that disintegrate within hours of them being said out loud - not only humiliating for the ministers concerned but toxic for trust in the leadership of the party, and the country.

And bubbling away underneath, increasing exasperation, from the cabinet down, within the Conservative Party, of the ongoing inability of Number 10 to actually focus on the business of government, rather than constantly firefighting crises about the prime minister's capacity to tell the truth.

Senior ministers who until very recently, the last 10 days, had assumed Boris Johnson would lead them into the next general election now aren't so sure.

And even those still supportive are worn down by what they see as the persistent own goals from Downing Street, which they regard as hard, even impossible to defend.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-62049696

Julian

05-07-2022 16:46

Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36127103)

It's just Operation Save Big Dog. Spread some Starmer rumours again on social media to disguise Johnson's latest blunder.

Current blunder is he forgot he was briefed about Pincher.

Is that like Wan forgetting the ginger slapper was at the curry party? ;)

1andrew1

05-07-2022 17:08

Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion

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Originally Posted by Julian (Post 36127109)

Is that like Wan forgetting the ginger slapper was at the curry party? ;)

This is one of many Johnson takes on the story including:
- not aware of any allegations
- not aware of any specific allegations
- forgotten he was briefed on specific allegation

A bit different from someone not putting someone's name on a list, although the latter is obviously stupid.

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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 36127105)

yes think your totally right Andrew

Wish I wasn't. It's just really embarrassing for the UK to have this person as our PM. It's gone past the humour stage.

Johnson's solution will doubtless be a call with Zelensky or another trip to Ukraine.

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