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papa smurf 05-07-2022 11:55

Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36127061)
This statement from The Daily Mail is typical tabloid sensationalism :D


He's had several weeks to prepare it!

But has he licked the glue on the envelope yet.

1andrew1 05-07-2022 11:58

Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36127062)
But has he licked the glue on the envelope yet.

Nope. Like Johnson with his Brexit column, I'm sure he has written two responses. He just needs to ensure he puts the right one in the envelope!

papa smurf 05-07-2022 12:01

Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36127063)
Nope. Like Johnson with his Brexit column, I'm sure he has written two responses. He just needs to ensure he puts the right one in the envelope!

I bet they're both boring :)

1andrew1 05-07-2022 12:21

Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36127064)
I bet they're both boring :)

One is probably less boring than the other. ;)

TheDaddy 05-07-2022 12:25

Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36127028)
Looks like Johnson was ambushed by a briefing...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-62047883



Mind you, probably no one told him it was a briefing, it probably only lasted 9 minutes, the briefing stayed inside a box all the time he was there, and it was a work-related briefing (just getting the excuses in...)

No one told him.it was a briefing and he's now furious about it and get over it there's a war on

1andrew1 05-07-2022 12:27

Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
 
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Grieve urges cabinet to act

The former Conservative MP and attorney general Dominic Grieve - a long-standing critic of Boris Johnson - says that cabinet ministers "need to grasp this particular nettle".

"This is yet another example of the prime minister being completely untrustworthy and directly contradicted by a former senior civil servant," he tells BBC News, adding that No 10 appears to have sent out ministers to "mislead the public on his behalf".

"If I were in the position of the deputy prime minister I would go and see the prime minister today at lunchtime and I would say, I’m very sorry, but you’ve got to resign, and I have to tell you that if you're not resigning I am resigning from your government immediately."

Describing Boris Johnson as "manifestly unfit to hold office," he says the Conservative Party is being damaged and may never recover.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-62048657

Damien 05-07-2022 12:41

Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36127064)
I bet they're both boring :)

If he's cleared and he doesn't hold a press conference drinking a few cans then what was the point of all this?

papa smurf 05-07-2022 13:06

Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36127069)
If he's cleared and he doesn't hold a press conference drinking a few cans then what was the point of all this?

If he escapes justice it will have all been a farce.

1andrew1 05-07-2022 13:11

Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36127072)
If he escapes justice it will have all been a farce.

He won't have escaped justice as his case has been investigated by Durham Police.

Justice often means clearing the innocent too.

And given the time it's taken, you would hope it will have been investigated pretty thoroughly!

Damien 05-07-2022 13:24

Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
 
The line is now that Boris Johnson was told about the allegations against Pincher but 'forgot' about them: https://metro.co.uk/2022/07/05/boris...metrouktwitter

mrmistoffelees 05-07-2022 13:28

Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36127076)
The line is now that Boris Johnson was told about the allegations against Pincher but 'forgot' about them: https://metro.co.uk/2022/07/05/boris...metrouktwitter


The supposed reasons coming out are nothing short of an embarassment noe we get told by Ellis that the PM has a "myriad array of urgent pressing responsibilities" and may be told "literally hundreds of things in one day"

If those pressing responsibilities are => this issue, then there's something seriously, seriously wrong with our government

papa smurf 05-07-2022 13:30

Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36127073)
He won't have escaped justice as his case has been investigated by Durham Police.

Justice often means clearing the innocent too.

And given the time it's taken, you would hope it will have been investigated pretty thoroughly!

I've seen the party pics and we now know he could get food at his hotel, I can also see Angie in the picture sat near him, he didn't even mention her, therefore his whole story looks like a fabrication to me, I'm no legal expert but he looks and smells guilty to me.

1andrew1 05-07-2022 14:06

Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36127078)
I've seen the party pics and we now know he could get food at his hotel, I can also see Angie in the picture sat near him, he didn't even mention her, therefore his whole story looks like a fabrication to me, I'm no legal expert but he looks and smells guilty to me.

She's a Labour party worker so it's fine for her to be there. The hotel stopped serving food at 9pm and not when they needed it.
As you say, you're no legal expert and neither am I. But based upon how Johnson's works parties were cleared, as long as everyone there was working for Labour, it was likely ok.

Mick 05-07-2022 14:47

Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
 
BREAKING: It is being reported by Telegraph that Durham Police are meeting up this afternoon with CPS to discuss whether Keir Starmer should be fined regarding Beergate allegations.

Sephiroth 05-07-2022 14:51

Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
 

What's it got to do with CPS at this stage?


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