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Anypermitedroute 04-12-2016 13:55

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35873680)
Everyone is responsible for how they treat each other. You can't blame others for your own actions.

Anyway back on topic. Johnson is playing down the idea of continuing to make EU payments: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38200112

It's not clear because by definition overpaying to the EU would be paying too much but if we pay the correct amount that seems fine :D


So it looks like a swing toward soft brexit. Just to remind everyone, that means everything stays exactly the same as it is now but we leave in name only and lose both our representation in the European Parliament and our national veto.
In layman's terms, this is a bit like giving everyone in the pub the finger and announcing you're leaving, then sulking on your own in the beer garden drinking whatever the regulars deign to send out to you.
So certainly less insane than hard brexit as it may not cause economic self-immolation (probably just some severe burns), but a very high level of stupidity nonetheless.

Ramrod 04-12-2016 14:12

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35873625)
So let's hope johnny pie can put it better than you because you didn't make a good job of it at all.

Did you watch his video?

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Originally Posted by Anypermitedroute (Post 35873692)
So it looks like a swing toward soft brexit. Just to remind everyone, that means everything stays exactly the same as it is now but we leave in name only and lose both our representation in the European Parliament and our national veto.

That's what I'm scared of happening.
It needn't have to but if the remoaners keep carping on and obstructing the process then it just might. :(

Damien 04-12-2016 17:49

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Far-right candidate in Austria defeated: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-euro...e=news_central

Might Italy also be spared the populist revolt? Probably not but the polls overestimated Hoffer

papa smurf 04-12-2016 17:59

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35873711)
Far-right candidate in Austria defeated: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-euro...e=news_central

Might Italy also be spared the populist revolt? Probably not but the polls overestimated Hoffer

they will get whatever the democratic process delivers .

Damien 04-12-2016 18:58

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35873715)
they will get whatever the democratic process delivers .

Well yes but what will that be? Looks like a No vote which would be the bigger of the two votes in Europe today.

papa smurf 04-12-2016 19:11

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35873724)
Well yes but what will that be? Looks like a No vote which would be the bigger of the two votes in Europe today.

its another close one ,Europe's established political party's will have to up their game if they want to sell their brand and bring home the big win's .

MarieOHMarie 04-12-2016 21:47

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35873724)
Well yes but what will that be? Looks like a No vote which would be the bigger of the two votes in Europe today.

It will be whatever, and I'm sure the good decent people of those countries will respect the result. Its so sad within the UK people are unwilling to respect democracy.

Damien 04-12-2016 22:00

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Renzi has already called a press conference for an hour after the polls close....can't be a good sign for him...

Damien 04-12-2016 23:07

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Looks like No will win easily, the press conference is presumably for Renzi to concede and maybe even resign.

RizzyKing 05-12-2016 01:19

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Yep renzi is gone don't think he'll be the last things are changing for better or worse we will have to see.

papa smurf 05-12-2016 08:23

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when is the re run - the no side obviously didn't understand what they voted for :rolleyes:

1andrew1 05-12-2016 12:36

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Labour's Brexit bill amendments likely to delay Article 50

"The Labour leader was at pains to say it was not about stopping Brexit, as had been suggested by his predecessor Tony Blair.
"You can't say to people 'you vote, you take the decision. Sorry, you've made the wrong decision. You've got to take it again'."
"It is still Labour's position that it will not block Article 50, but it will try to insist on plans being published for new trading arrangements and protection of social rights."
http://news.sky.com/story/labours-am...le-50-10681748

nomadking 05-12-2016 12:44

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"Protection of social rights" is SOLELY a matter for the UK government, whoever is in power, and should be nothing to do with the EU.

1andrew1 05-12-2016 12:55

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 35873802)
"Protection of social rights" is SOLELY a matter for the UK government, whoever is in power, and should be nothing to do with the EU.

I think Corbyn is looking to guarantee that these rights are not taken away from people when we leave the EU. In the short term, I'm sure that will happen.

pip08456 05-12-2016 13:55

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Originally Posted by RizzyKing (Post 35873631)
Return of the empire seriously is there any sensible person that's even muttered that after brexit because I've heard no one even mention the empire outside of historical debates in the last two decades.


Perhaps that is because the "Empire" no longer exists. The Commonwealth does though

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35873808)
I think Corbyn is looking to guarantee that these rights are not taken away from people when we leave the EU. In the short term, I'm sure that will happen.

On what basis do you draw that conclusion?


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