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1andrew1 22-06-2026 10:54
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36217937)
Don’t you think Streeting will stand? Isn’t that why he resigned from the Cabinet?
That was then, this is now. I don't see the point in it given Burnham's popularity amongst MPs.

jfman 22-06-2026 11:16
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He’s already backed Andy.

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36217950)
It’s nuts, isn’t it. Even if they didn’t expect to win the next election after 2019, they had at that point been in opposition for 9 years. You would have thought someone would have done some policy work.
It’s quite bizarre. The Sue Gray appointment indicates at that point they thought they were in with a shout.

OLD BOY 22-06-2026 11:18
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36217952)
He’s already backed Andy.
In that case, I agree, there’s no contest.

The only question now is how radical will he be?

He did a brilliant job as mayor, but the job of a PM is far harder, with problems coming at you from all directions while there’s an agenda to be progressed.

Hopefully, he will keep to the mandate Starmer had, but with a better way of dealing with it, otherwise he should go for a General Election to get his new mandate accepted by the electorate.

Chris 22-06-2026 11:27
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36217956)
In that case, I agree, there’s no contest.

The only question now is how radical will he be?

He did a brilliant job as mayor, but the job of a PM is far harder, with problems coming at you from all directions while there’s an agenda to be progressed.

Hopefully, he will keep to the mandate Starmer had, but with a better way of dealing with it, otherwise he should go for a General Election to get his new mandate accepted by the electorate.
The labour back benches are tough to govern. They’re always rammed with student union ideologues who’ve never had any sort of job worth the name (Nadia Witless, anyone?) and for such pound shop radicals nothing will ever be enough. One of Starmer’s big mistakes was in trying to keep them onside when faced with difficult choices over tax and benefits. With a majority of 175 there are more wingnuts than ever, but at the same time much more leeway for absorbing rebellions. Starmer could have afforded to annoy them enough to defy the whip here and there and then face down the inevitable headlines as standing up to the hard left.

Burnham has precisely the same opportunity now.

Hugh 22-06-2026 12:12
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What Chris said

1andrew1 22-06-2026 12:19
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36217950)
You would have thought someone would have done some policy work.
I suspect Burnham's team will be busy doing exactly that this summer!

jfman 22-06-2026 12:53
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36217959)
The labour back benches are tough to govern. They’re always rammed with student union ideologues who’ve never had any sort of job worth the name (Nadia Witless, anyone?) and for such pound shop radicals nothing will ever be enough. One of Starmer’s big mistakes was in trying to keep them onside when faced with difficult choices over tax and benefits. With a majority of 175 there are more wingnuts than ever, but at the same time much more leeway for absorbing rebellions. Starmer could have afforded to annoy them enough to defy the whip here and there and then face down the inevitable headlines as standing up to the hard left.

Burnham has precisely the same opportunity now.
In fairness, it wasn’t in their manifesto. It was however in the Conservative party manifesto to cut benefits.

thenry 22-06-2026 13:03
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Will Larry be disturbed in any of this drama?

Sephiroth 22-06-2026 13:15
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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36217967)
Will Larry be disturbed in any of this drama?
Why do you ask?

Carth 22-06-2026 13:16
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Maybe the new boy is allergic to cats?

Sephiroth 22-06-2026 13:23
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36217969)
Maybe the new boy is allergic to cats?
The cat's 19 years old and will be pegging it soon. Long lived the cat.

Carth 22-06-2026 13:28
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36217970)
The cat's 19 years old and will be pegging it soon. Lomg live the cat.
When it dies, will there be some kind of vote or election on which cat replaces (quite possibly) the longest term resident?

thenry 22-06-2026 13:31
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Animal cruelty . All these new owners.

Sephiroth 22-06-2026 13:59
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36217972)
When it dies, will there be some kind of vote or election on which cat replaces (quite possibly) the longest term resident?
While the cat's away .....

papa smurf 22-06-2026 14:08
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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36217973)
Animal cruelty . All these new owners.
you don't own a cat you work for them


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