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Well, at least he’s not suggesting we should sink the boats or treat any drowned refugees as collateral damage, so, you know, could be worse…

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Not really a pivot, it's another reason to suggest that Nomadking has altered his view on Brexit. I'm not pressing for the UK to rejoin the EU any time soon.

It may be uncomfortable for the implications of the Brexit deal upon repatriation to be discussed ,but I repute your allegation that I'm somehow using a humanitarian tragedy - one which you've not defined - for my own aims.

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Both suggestions have as much chance of being implemented as anything other suggestion that gets talked about . . . we may as well give them train fare and have done with it ;)

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Ignore the faux outrage, it's just deflection, as you say, from the uncomfortable & ironic reality that, as a result of Brexit, migrants find it easily to come here and harder to be removed.

I am surprise he does not know this, after all, he knew what he was voting for.

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The migrant tidal wave into Europe is a growing concern, the EU itself is starting to struggle.

Poland has razor wire fencing, other countries also use concrete walls and barbed wire . . . along with armed forces. Negotiations seem to achieve very little.

We have gunboats but prefer to use lifeboats . . .

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They think 100000 will try and make the journey here

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Are you seriously suggesting we fire on unarmed civilians?

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You are just a big softee, Hugh.:Yes:

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Guilty as charged - that would be because I understand the that our Armed Forces have to follow the Geneva Conventions, rather than end up in the International Criminal Court like Radovan Karadžić…

I’d rather be a softy than commit a crime against humanity - you obviously think differently…

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Actually, no I don’t.

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Your post posits otherwise...

"Collateral damage" is permitted (for lack of a better word) under the Geneva Conventions (as war is messy, and it can be difficult/impossible to only strike military targets without any, especially in urban areas), but there is no interpretation where your suggestion that sinking civilians in boats can be described as such.

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It is amazing the number of people who were saying 'all lives matter' not so long ago don't seem to want to extend that courtesy to asylum seekers..

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But they're not "asylum seekers" That they could have done in any of the EU states that they passed through. They're economic migrants seeking an easy billet.

From Kelvin MacKenzie, "A spokesman Said"

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Old Boy's entitled to change his viewpoint during a discussion thread after reading others' insights. That's a good thing. But it would make for a less confusing forum experience if he were able to acknowledge such pivots.

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