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I just don’t understand your perspective on this. How is it that you’re failing to grasp that the government is taking population-scale decisions here - not because they think lockdown is the solution to your mild case of covid, but because at the population scale the reproduction rate we’re seeing means that at any one time there are now about as many serious covid cases as the NHS can handle. The NHS is routinely stretched by seasonal flu when it is operating normally (I.e. still doing regular cancer screenings, hip replacements and the rest). Today, it is stretched to the limit even after much of its normal operation has been surrendered to covid patient care.

If the government is trying to scare people into compliance, then that’s because people have lost the ability to modify their behaviour for the sake of their wider community, and can only be manipulated into something they think is in their personal interest. And that’s a really sad reflection of what we as a nation have become.

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Too right, people should be scared.

Scared of catching it and passing it on to someone whose immune system my not be able to cope and they end up seriously ill in hospital or worse, dead.

Taking precautions and lockdowns are to help stop the NHS being swamped rather than just making people stay home for the hell of it.

People that think its a hoax or that its the government trying to control us are just plain daft. I personally know people that have passed away covid. It's not nice at all. I certainly don't want to risk catching it.

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That’s not what I said

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Because I would prefer to be advised rationally.

Just be straight up about everything in a calm clear way.

I don’t like it when anyone let , alone the government, try and intimidate me and scare me with irrational propaganda.

The 30% more deadly variant being a prime example.

I’ve never said it is a hoax / conspiracy or anything like that - ever, and I have always adhered to the rules.

But I absolutely within my rights to question how this is being handled.

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An excellent analysis of the situation. Some some people just don't get it and just think of themselves.

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I think most people do get it, but still don't care. They're more worried about their next holiday and personal wealth, than the health of those around them. Sad sign of the times.

If of course they themselves or a family member becomes seriously ill their attitude completely changes. Our PM is a case in point.

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Exactly..

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Spot on analysis.

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If there’s more than 100 people in the park that’s true.

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Very worrying for NZ, but they’ve had a few examples of community transmission successfully stamped out before so I’m rooting for them.

Potentially false negative tests or simply a late onset of infection. It’s always been thought possible just unlikely as the vast majority are between by days 5-7.

I did read a theory on the “new variant” that it was more difficult to detect and that’s one hypothesis for greater spread - people who test negative continue their lives as normal. Don’t know if further analysis has been done.

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Questioning the effectiveness of lockdowns is not selfish, it’s the opposite. Thinking of all the people who have and will lose their jobs, potentially their homes. Thinking of people stuck in tiny flats, people that are alone, kids at risk, the list goes on and on.

I’m lucky, I have a massive garden and live in a rural area, never went to the pub or cinema that often. lockdown hasn’t affected me at all. The only potential issue was with schooling and I qualify for essential worker status so that is now sorted.

So believe me, I am not thinking of myself I can ride out lockdowns just fine, but I don’t agree they are the answer.

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Well they don’t know that and it’s not an issue if everyone follows the guidance.

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Depends on how big the park is.

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Why the best message is "act as if you have Covid-19"! Then at least you will be taking all the measure you personally can, to stop the spread.

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Red herring. Even Sweden is seeing an economic impact, despite taking no meaningful restrictions for the first 6-9 months.

The idea that there’s a lot of businesses out there that would thrive with people voluntarily shielding, many continuing to work from home for their own safety is mistaken. Businesses are in trouble either way.

Went to two local parks this weekend. One where I grew up had more people in it than I’ve seen in my entire life. The other nearby had about 80 folk it it when I did a quick count. I’m pretty confident anyone spending even half an hour to an hour there would have shared the space with 100 different people.

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I'm so lucky to live 5 minutes from a beach with huge open spaces and a country park on the back of the village.