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Oofff Rupert won't be pleased, then again he always likes to back who he thinks is winning...

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Well I can confirm the Sun 'coming out' hasn't altered my vote - I'm still voting to get out regardless... :D

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So, Rupert Murdoch thinks we're leaving too and jumping on the bandwagon. He likes to be on the winning side and I don't think he's ever called it wrong before.

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He would've been the one behind the headline!

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Excellent

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A good front page from the Sun for once

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ORB/Telegraph polls Leave 49, Remain 48 this morning, amongst those certain to vote. In the whole sample its Leave 44, Remain 49. Turnout is still going to be crucial to this.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...over-a-week-t/

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As Nigel Ferage himself said on Sunday. These workers are already there and we can't do anything about it. However, some may not meet the new criteria of the new immigration policy and will be dealt with accordingly. The point of leaving the EU is to kerb this influx of migrants. As I've said before, forget Turkey. There are other poorer countries who will join a lot sooner and that means more heading to our gold paved streets. This is what has to be controlled. If we carry on in the EU our population will reach 70 million before we know it and we just can't cope with that. When I was a kid the population was just over 55 million now I believe it's around 63 million - an increase in the population equivalent to the population of London. What will it be like in the next 50 years if we stay in the EU?

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Well, for twice maybe ... :D

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2016/06/34.jpg

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Could roaming charges prove to be the clincher I wonder... :D

Seriously, I pay no attention to these polls, especially the early ones. They always fluctuate and frequently contradict each other.

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The thing with jobs is not as it was. With the introduction of the Living wage those who wouldn't take these jobs in the past would be only too happy to take them now. This is the reason we have so many immigrants because they were brought over in the 60s to do these menial jobs. Here's an example. How many would flock to drive buses now - A task that was beneath them in the past? The predicted doom and gloom is just that.

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I think the risks are higher staying in given the state of the Euro economy. The Euro WILL collapse eventually and they can't keep throwing cash at Greece forever, can they? This is more likely to trigger a global meltdown rather than leaving.

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Indeed it does. When I was studying Modern Studies, out lecturer told us that the paper you read can say a lot about the type of person you are. It's a kind of status symbol.

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Ah but, have you noticed Summer doesn't really get going until July these days. As a gardener, I can see this year after year. The winters are not as cod and some flowers that would be gone are still there in my garden. At this stage of the year the garden should be a wash of colour but it isn't. The Fox gloves are just blooming now - a month late. The Roses are not out yet but there are plenty buds on them and the Tomatoes are way behind. There could well be an 8 week heat wave right up to the end of September these days.

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This is a case where I wish more would 'jump on the bandwagon' and the leave result would be guaranteed.

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Bum-squeakingly close but still remain I reckon. Leave has the lowest odds I've ever seen, one bookie has them evens with the longest odds at 11/8, but the remain campaign remains odds-on, with longest odds at 4/6 and shortest at 8/11.

That said, at the current rate of convergence both will be at parity by tomorrow or Thursday.

EDIT: I refreshed the odds just to be current and in that time another bookie has leave at evens.

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Sterling is falling, FTSE is falling and the Remain odds are collapsing. This is only going one way.

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You better stake your mortgage on it then..

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It's not snobbery at all ,it's quite simply trying to find a newspaper that will print correct facts and accurate news .The link you posted from the express is a classic example ,it was shown with very little effort to be completely inaccurate and the company that did the poll where very quick to distance themselves from the article.However if you still want to take what they print as gospel that's up to you ,does explain a few things though

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Despite leaves best efforts to sabotage their own campaign i still think it will be a landslide victory for leave

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On the other hand, 'Project Fear' requires there to be a genuine chance of Brexit in order to work.

I wouldn't put a bet on this now. It's on a knife-edge.

Great drama for sure. I foresee docu-dramas being made about all this.

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I hope not. This is too important to be decided by silly things, be they jumping on the bandwagon, roaming charges or whatever else.

This ends up being decided by stupidity it undermines the case for more direct democracy as it gives the impression morons decide policy.

EDIT: Damien, I suspect that things will recover either way after the vote. The huge uncertainty is probably weighing heavy on investor confidence.

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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7026796.html

EU immigration to the UK has not harmed British peoples’ access to jobs, public services or incomes, a major study has concluded.

I'll leave this here..