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denphone 30-07-2020 18:37

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 
Jackson Carlaw quits as Scottish Conservative leader.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...om3=%40BBCNews

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Mr Carlaw said he did not believe he was the best person to lead the case for Scotland remaining in the United Kingdom.

And he said he had therefore decided to stand down with immediate effect.


nashville 30-07-2020 19:45

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I hope they get somehow strong enough to put NS in her place, We all don't want Independence in Scotland,

1andrew1 30-07-2020 20:36

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36045096)
Jackson Carlaw quits as Scottish Conservative leader.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...om3=%40BBCNews

Who would want to be a Scottish Tory leader trying to justify Brexit and Dominic Cummings' eyesight tests to a sceptical Scottish audience?
Sadly for the Scottish Conservative Party, it lost a rare electoral asset when Ruth Davidson stepped down as leader.

nashville 31-07-2020 01:40

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 
Ruth D was one of the best to stand up to N S, I just hope they get someone who can stop the separation of the United Kingdom, I don't care if it is Tory, Labour or the Queen of Sheba,

jfman 31-07-2020 23:06

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 
The unionist parties in Scotland are all falling into the same trap.

None offer a compelling or progressive alternative vision for Scotland. They struggle to “sell” the Union to the electorate. All they offer is negativity and fear. The Conservatives are doing slightly better than Labour at getting the orange vote.

Hom3r 01-08-2020 19:01

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 
Scotland had it's once in a life-time vote, and they voted to stay.

If they did leave, how are they going to pay for the roads and free prescriptions with fewer people in a country than live in London

1andrew1 01-08-2020 19:15

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Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 36045362)
Scotland had it's once in a life-time vote, and they voted to stay.

If they did leave, how are they going to pay for the roads and free prescriptions with fewer people in a country than live in London

It's about the romantic notion of sovereignty rather than sound economics.

papa smurf 01-08-2020 19:52

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36045365)
It's about the romantic notion of sovereignty rather than sound economics.

No the nats hate the English.

Hugh 01-08-2020 20:02

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36045375)
No the nats hate the English.

Nah - just the politicians and the anti-Scots bigots...

Mad Max 03-08-2020 01:26

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36028018)
Err no, they’re using a very convenient ladder to get themselves out of a deep hole of their own making. They have spent the last 12 months ramping up the rhetoric about a referendum in order to prevent their movement fracturing, while a referendum is the last thing Sturgeon actually wants as long as the polls remain basically unchanged from 2014. They have always needed a pretext to back down that doesn’t leave the SNP leadership looking weak. For them, the present crisis is perfect cover.


Spot on, Chris, the SNP have one goal and one goal only, they need to get on with the day job, their tunnel vision for independence knows no bounds, Sturgeon is a sleekit little bitch, they are definitely using the Covid crisis to further their ambiton of a free Scotland, they forget to remember that 60% of their trade is with England, the education system in Scotland used to be one of the top performers world wide, its about third from bottom now, same with the NHS it's a complete mess!

jfman 03-08-2020 08:19

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“Get on with the day job” patter is fantastic from unionists.

I can’t remember the last time Scottish Labour or Conservatives made a policy proposal. I frequently forget the Lib Dems exist.

Trade isn’t a good reason to not be self-governing. Seph will back me up here.

You’ve also got a curious way of phrasing that the Covid situation allows the SNP to demonstrate competence against the backdrop of UK Government incompetence.

papa smurf 03-08-2020 09:48

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36045479)
“Get on with the day job” patter is fantastic from unionists.

I can’t remember the last time Scottish Labour or Conservatives made a policy proposal. I frequently forget the Lib Dems exist.

Trade isn’t a good reason to not be self-governing. Seph will back me up here.

You’ve also got a curious way of phrasing that the Covid situation allows the SNP to demonstrate competence against the backdrop of UK Government incompetence.

away and bile yer heid.

1andrew1 03-08-2020 10:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36045479)
“Get on with the day job” patter is fantastic from unionists.

I can’t remember the last time Scottish Labour or Conservatives made a policy proposal. I frequently forget the Lib Dems exist.

Trade isn’t a good reason to not be self-governing. Seph will back me up here.

You’ve also got a curious way of phrasing that the Covid situation allows the SNP to demonstrate competence against the backdrop of UK Government incompetence.

Any Brexiter should be able to endorse your statement that trade isn't a good reason to prevent self-government, not just our esteemed Wokingham contributor.

Mad Max 03-08-2020 12:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36045479)
“Get on with the day job” patter is fantastic from unionists.

I can’t remember the last time Scottish Labour or Conservatives made a policy proposal. I frequently forget the Lib Dems exist.

Trade isn’t a good reason to not be self-governing. Seph will back me up here.

You’ve also got a curious way of phrasing that the Covid situation allows the SNP to demonstrate competence against the backdrop of UK Government incompetence.


Absolute guff from you mate, the SNP are good at spinning, they also lied through their teeth with their "once in a generation" quote, about independence, only to come back now trying to force another vote, how many times is it then, best of three, best of five? Yeah tell me about their ambition, absolute **** are the SNP!

jfman 03-08-2020 12:42

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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36045495)
Absolute guff from you mate, the SNP are good at spinning, they also lied through their teeth with their "once in a generation" quote, about independence, only to come back now trying to force another vote, how many times is it then, best of three, best of five? Yeah tell me about their ambition, absolute **** are the SNP!

Laughable response. Name a single policy any other party in Scotland have proposed in the last decade? I bet you don’t run out of fingers on one hand when it comes to counting them up.

No vision, no positive vision, no clue. Which is why the SNP could be bang average and still win an election in a Scotland. All that’s propping unionism up is the Orange vote and that won’t last. The opposition should learn from the late Dr. Paisley that shouting “No! No! No!” is not a long term viable strategy.


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