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paulyoung666 16-07-2004 00:02
Re: Formula One Motor Racing
 
i can sort of see your point about the 10 place penalty being a it steep , but who suffered last race ??????????? , alonso , and why didnt he do better than he did in the race ??????????? , the spec of the cars wouldnt allow him to , that is why , the big aerodynamic blackhole came into play when he tried to overtake even a 'lowly' minardi or sauber or jordan , there is no getting away from the fact that the cars need a radical overhaul to sort the sport out before it dies a slow and painful death :( :( :( :(

homealone 16-07-2004 00:26
Re: Formula One Motor Racing
 
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Originally Posted by paulyoung666
i can sort of see your point about the 10 place penalty being a it steep , but who suffered last race ??????????? , alonso , and why didnt he do better than he did in the race ??????????? , the spec of the cars wouldnt allow him to , that is why , the big aerodynamic blackhole came into play when he tried to overtake even a 'lowly' minardi or sauber or jordan , there is no getting away from the fact that the cars need a radical overhaul to sort the sport out before it dies a slow and painful death :( :( :( :(
sad but true - ban the 'dirty' air - but keep 'slipstreaming' - was that gurney flaps or gurning contests :D

Graham 16-07-2004 14:58
Re: Formula One Motor Racing
 
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Originally Posted by andy 1
o its you again graham is it.
i can have my say on this forum just like you can.if you don't like what i put don't read my posts.
And if you don't like what I say about your messages, don't post them in the first place...! :rolleyes:

This is a public forum, you're free to say anything you like (within the rules) but if I think you're talking out of your backside or making up "conspiracy theories" based on nothing but seeming jealousy, I'm free to comment on that too!

If you can supply some *facts* to back up your *opinions* (and not just supposition, hearsay and innuendo) then please, post them so we can have a reasonable debate on the subject.

gary_580 16-07-2004 15:14
Re: Formula One Motor Racing
 
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Originally Posted by sherer
i think what Bernie should do is get some Alfa P8s built and get the best drivers from F1, Champ Cars, F3000, Nascar, IRL etc to race in them in Non-Championship 500 mile races over the winter..

Then we could really see who was the best at the moment.

Still think if you look at Nuvolari and what he did over his career or even G Hill or Clark and how they could be quick in anything they are better than Shuey who gets a car built so he can drive it.. Look at what happened when Alesi and Berger went to Benneton and couldn't drive the old car Shuey had.. Don't think it is a coincidence that after Ruben pushed Shuey harder than he been pushed over a season by a teammate before the next car they made suited Shuey better and now Rubens can't challenge him any more

huh? and what sort of circuit would you used that doesnt give a bias to someone?

gary_580 16-07-2004 15:15
Re: Formula One Motor Racing
 
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Originally Posted by Graham
And if you don't like what I say about your messages, don't post them in the first place...! :rolleyes:

This is a public forum, you're free to say anything you like (within the rules) but if I think you're talking out of your backside or making up "conspiracy theories" based on nothing but seeming jealousy, I'm free to comment on that too!

If you can supply some *facts* to back up your *opinions* (and not just supposition, hearsay and innuendo) then please, post them so we can have a reasonable debate on the subject.

Would be more suited to a PM exchange. We dont need to hear this.

SMHarman 16-07-2004 15:16
Re: Formula One Motor Racing
 
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Originally Posted by gary_580
Would be more suited to a PM exchange. We dont need to hear this.
Nah, as Incognitas says, pull up a deckchair. Both are having a valid debate, just some pacifiers and toys seem to be lying on the floor now.

gary_580 16-07-2004 15:17
Re: Formula One Motor Racing
 
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Nah, as Incognitas says, pull up a deckchair. Both are having a valid debate, just some pacifiers and toys seem to be lying on the floor now.

would be fine if it was on topic

SMHarman 16-07-2004 15:32
Re: Formula One Motor Racing
 
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Originally Posted by gary_580
would be fine if it was on topic
It is
Quote:
Originally Posted by Graham
And if you don't like what I say about your messages, don't post them in the first place...! :rolleyes:

This is a public forum, you're free to say anything you like (within the rules) but if I think you're talking out of your backside or making up "conspiracy theories" based on nothing but seeming jealousy, I'm free to comment on that too!

If you can supply some *facts* to back up your *opinions* (and not just supposition, hearsay and innuendo) then please, post them so we can have a reasonable debate on the subject.
Graham is refering to this alleged favouritism Shuey is given over all others. Andy 1 seems to find it difficult to provide anything other than a JFK/Moon landing proportioned conspiracy theory.

andy 1 16-07-2004 17:10
Re: Formula One Motor Racing
 
i didn't know that you where a moderator graham.
have you ever thought i could be posting my conspiracy theories to wind people like you up.

paulyoung666 16-07-2004 17:29
Re: Formula One Motor Racing
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by andy 1
i didn't know that you where a moderator graham.
have you ever thought i could be posting my conspiracy theories to wind people like you up.


he isnt but the way you are going on there is going to be a mod landing very heavily around here soon , if you want to argue a point , then take it to pm , as i did with graham recently , it was sorted out no problem , and that will allow this thread to carry on as normal ;)

andy 1 16-07-2004 17:34
Re: Formula One Motor Racing
 
beg your pardon
but schumacher crashing into damon hill and jaques villeneuve is not a conspiracy theory nor is it a conspiracy theory that he stopped in the gravel trap and was pushed back on to the track,these things happened and are fact.
all i am doing is stating my opinion that schumacher is favoured by his team and certain f1 officials and i am not alone in thinking this try reading some interviews given by juan pablo montoya or eddie irvine (shumachers ex team mate) for instance.

andy 1 16-07-2004 17:40
Re: Formula One Motor Racing
 
so i take it if you have a conspiracy theory you can't post on this forum,is that right.
if not tell me what i have done wrong,and why graham is right.i notice you don't have a go at him paulyoung666.
or could it be you are both schumacher fans and don't like a bit of critiscism of the said schumacher

Nugget 16-07-2004 18:00
Re: Formula One Motor Racing
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by andy 1
beg your pardon
but schumacher crashing into damon hill and jaques villeneuve is not a conspiracy theory nor is it a conspiracy theory that he stopped in the gravel trap and was pushed back on to the track,these things happened and are fact.
all i am doing is stating my opinion that schumacher is favoured by his team and certain f1 officials and i am not alone in thinking this try reading some interviews given by juan pablo montoya or eddie irvine (shumachers ex team mate) for instance.
And surely all Graham is doing is disagreeing with you? As has been said before, in a public forum like this, you won't get everybody agreeing all of the time - just live with it.

For the record, I think that Schumacher is a top driver with the top team who, on occasion, isn't above using a few dirty tricks to get his own way!

paulyoung666 16-07-2004 18:04
Re: Formula One Motor Racing
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by andy 1
so i take it if you have a conspiracy theory you can't post on this forum,is that right.
if not tell me what i have done wrong,and why graham is right.i notice you don't have a go at him paulyoung666.
or could it be you are both schumacher fans and don't like a bit of critiscism of the said schumacher

me a schumacher fan , no way jose :erm: , nowt wrong with a bit of the old conspiracy theory now and then , i just cant believe that you seriously think that everything is weighted in schumachers favour :confused: , for the good of the sport the reverse should be true , do you seriously think that bernie and his cronies want to see m.s. winning all the time , if you do then you my friend are living in cloud cuckoo land :(

Chris 16-07-2004 18:08
Re: Formula One Motor Racing
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by andy 1
i didn't know that you where a moderator graham.
have you ever thought i could be posting my conspiracy theories to wind people like you up.
I truly hope this is not the case. Deliberately provoking other members is against the Terms of Use of this site:

3.1 You agree that you will not provoke others or cause trouble. If you wish to argue with people then go to instant messenger or email.


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