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Mr K	27-11-2019 13:38

Re: Election 2019 - Week 3

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36018449)

Will Boris fare as badly? I can’t see it myself.

I can, TM is a saint compared to the liar incarnate.

Chris

27-11-2019 14:07

Re: Election 2019 - Week 3

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36018456)

I can, TM is a saint compared to the liar incarnate.

I don’t think moral fortitude is what will decide this election.

TheDaddy

27-11-2019 14:13

Re: Election 2019 - Week 3

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36018437)

Does that mean that someone who tries to avoid talking to (insert minority here) because they are uncomfortable with (insert minority here) is as racist as someone who beats up and seriously injures, perhaps kills, someone from a (insert minority here) because they hate that (insert minority here)?

Degrees of hate really...

OLD BOY

27-11-2019 16:32

Re: Election 2019 - Week 3

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36018456)

I can, TM is a saint compared to the liar incarnate.

He's nothing compared to Corbyn, who is still insisting that the NHS is up for sale. Who does he think will be taken in by this?

Mr K	27-11-2019 16:38

Re: Election 2019 - Week 3

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36018462)

He's nothing compared to Corbyn, who is still insisting that the NHS is up for sale. Who does he think will be taken in by this?

Anybody with a knowledge of Boris's track record of broken promises.

OLD BOY

27-11-2019 17:54

Re: Election 2019 - Week 3

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36018464)

Anybody with a knowledge of Boris's track record of broken promises.

Well, the tuth is that only the civil servants have been scoping the nature of possible negotiations - Conservative ministers have not been involved.

So bang goes that deflection story from Corbyn.

Hugh	27-11-2019 18:00

Re: Election 2019 - Week 3

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36018466)

Well, the tuth is that only the civil servants have been scoping the nature of possible negotiations - Conservative ministers have not been involved.

So bang goes that deflection story from Corbyn.

Source?

jfman

27-11-2019 18:10

Re: Election 2019 - Week 3

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36018466)

Well, the tuth is that only the civil servants have been scoping the nature of possible negotiations - Conservative ministers have not been involved.

So bang goes that deflection story from Corbyn.

That's quite an audacious claim that the Civil Service are undermining Ministers and wasting resourcing considering possible options that will not happen.

I see on my day off you've continued to peddle the Conservative at all cost mantra.

nomadking

27-11-2019 18:18

Re: Election 2019 - Week 3

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36018467)

Source?

Link

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Labour obtained uncensored government documents covering six rounds of talks between US and UK officials in Washington and London between July 2017 and July 2019.
They are all preparatory meetings ahead of formal trade talks.

The main push for "privatisation" of the NHS came under Labour.

jfman

27-11-2019 18:20

Re: Election 2019 - Week 3

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36018471)

Link

The main push for "privatisation" of the NHS came under Labour.

Doesn't matter if the Conservatives want to push further though now, does it?

Hugh	27-11-2019 18:21

Re: Election 2019 - Week 3

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36018471)

Link

The main push for "privatisation" of the NHS came under Labour.

so in 2 years of trade talks, there has been no involvement of Government Ministers to review progress and provide direction?

jfman

27-11-2019 18:22

Re: Election 2019 - Week 3

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36018473)

so in 2 years of trade talks, there has been no involvement of Government Ministers to review progress and provide direction?

Arguably I could believe the second part, but due to incompetence on the part of Ministers rather than it being the normal practice in the Civil Service.

nomadking

27-11-2019 18:23

Re: Election 2019 - Week 3

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36018470)

Nothing at all has been agreed. It's just things they might want to discuss and agree upon. "Everything is up for discussion" is very different to "Agree to everything or nothing will be agreed".

jfman

27-11-2019 18:24

Re: Election 2019 - Week 3

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36018475)

And discussing items that are non-negotiable is a total waste of time.

Nothing has been agreed but we certainly have the Ministerial steer.

nomadking

27-11-2019 18:25

Re: Election 2019 - Week 3

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36018472)

Doesn't matter if the Conservatives want to push further though now, does it?

At best, it's disingenuous of Labour to squeal about "privatisation", And the evidence of pushing for much further privatisation is...........?

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