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Dave42 25-01-2017 21:02
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35882187)
Thanks for the info , Sky looking to cut costs while at the same time increasing subscriptions. Wonder where all that coins going.
probably going towards there next champions league football bid MM

muppetman11 25-01-2017 21:04
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probably going towards there next champions league football bid MM
Or the huge sum it paid for the current Premier League rights.

denphone 25-01-2017 21:05
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Or the huge sum it paid for the current Premier League rights.
Or the next lot of Premier League rights which come up in a year.

Arthurgray50@blu 25-01-2017 21:11
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Denphne.
I want Sky, because of the amount of channels it has. But the wife got a deal with VM. So we just have the basic channels +BT Sport.

It looks like she is going to win this battle. But there again women are always right at the end of the day.

Chad 25-01-2017 21:13
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35882217)
I said this would happen on here a while back , I'd expect Sky to play hard ball with other broadcasters as it looks to reduce costs. These kind of disputes are common in the US and many times leads to channels being removed for a period of time.

Telegraph reporting it now
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/...ackout-threat/
Looks like this has been rumbling on for months. Intresting to see what impact this will have on the deal between SKY Media and Discovery Networks.

http://www.campaignlive.com/article/...al-sky/1411025

It's even more intresting when you visit the Sky Media website and click the various Discovery Channels links for more details.

https://www.skymedia.co.uk/channels/discovery/

Discovery Channel average monthly reach - 5m viewers
Discovery Science average monthly reach - 2m viewers
Discovery History average monthly reach - 2m viewers
Discovery Turdo average monthly reach - 2m viewers
TLC average monthly reach - 6m viewers

I'm not sure how average monthly reach is worked out. If anyone knows please share. What I do know is a drop of around 70% of their viewers for each channel is going to have a massive impact.

Wonder if Discovery Networks will be able to renegotiate how much they are paying to SKY Media or cancel their contract? Can't see them paying the same kind of money for less than a 1/3 of the original advertising reach.

This is going to be fun watch. Biggest cliffhanger since "Who shot JR?" :D

alwaysabear 25-01-2017 21:14
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Eurosport would be a deal breaker for me. I love winter sports and cycling in the summer! Virginmedia's tactics are looking mighty appealing to me.

muppetman11 25-01-2017 21:25
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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35882233)
Looks like this has been rumbling on for months. Intresting to see what impact this will have on the deal between SKY Media and Discovery Networks.

http://www.campaignlive.com/article/...al-sky/1411025

It's even more intresting when you visit the Sky Media website and click the various Discovery Channels links for more details.

https://www.skymedia.co.uk/channels/discovery/

Discovery Channel average monthly reach - 5m viewers
Discovery Science average monthly reach - 2m viewers
Discovery History average monthly reach - 2m viewers
Discovery Turdo average monthly reach - 2m viewers
TLC average monthly reach - 6m viewers

I'm not sure how average monthly reach is worked out. If anyone knows please share. What I do know is a drop of around 70% of their viewers for each channel is going to have a massive impact.

Wonder if Discovery Networks will be able to renegotiate how much they are paying to SKY Media or cancel their contract? Can't see them paying the same kind of money for less than a 1/3 of the original advertising reach.

This is going to be fun watch. Biggest cliffhanger since "Who shot JR?" :D
Discovery already moved from Now TV Entertainment pass on website , now says 10 instead of 11 channels.

denphone 25-01-2017 21:28
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l bet there will be no reduction in their monthly price though.

alwaysabear 25-01-2017 21:31
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l bet there will be no reduction in their monthly price though.
As normal its the consumer who loses out:(

denphone 25-01-2017 21:34
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As normal its the consumer who loses out:(
Of that there is doubt AB.

Stephen 25-01-2017 21:39
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http://www.tvwise.co.uk/2017/01/disc...iations-break/
More info in link.
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In an almost unprecedented move, Discovery Networks UK & Ireland let rip tonight in a scathing press release which revealed that negotiations with Sky have broken down and the two parties have failed to reach a new carriage agreement for their portfolio of channels.

As a result of that, Discovery has stated that unless a new agreement is reached shortly, they will pull all their channels from the Sky platform and NOW TV. There are no changes to BT and Virgin Media customers with whom Discovery has separate long-term agreements in place. What caused the negotiations to break down? The key issues seem to be entirely financial.

Discovery’s position is that as an “independent broadcaster”, they believe Sky is not offering a “fair price” for their channels. “Sky is using what we consider to be its dominant market position to further its own commercial interest over those of viewers and independent broadcasters”, said Susanna Dinnage, Managing Director, Discovery Networks UK and Ireland. Specifically, Discovery says they are paid less now than they were ten years ago, despite the cost of a Sky subscription increasing and the fact that Discovery has increased its share of viewing on the Sky platform by more than 20% in that same time period.

“Somebody has to stand up for consumers, because consumers believe they are paying for choice and diversity – they deserve better. Discovery is prepared to take that stand. Pay television needs to be about more than just films and football. The consumer can’t be expected to fund all of Sky’s investments and get less and less choice in return. We are also concerned that with the recently announced Fox transaction, Sky’s market strength and incentive to disadvantage independent TV content providers will only increase. Dinnage added. “All we ask is that Sky recognise the value we bring to customers and remunerate us fairly so we can continue creating content that inspires and entertains the world,” continued Susanna Dinnage.

Unsurprisingly, Sky has a different take on the situation. A spokesperson for the satcaster told TVWise that Discovery’s price expectations were problematic. “Despite our best efforts to reach a sensible agreement, we, like many other platforms and broadcasters across Europe, have found the price expectations for the Discovery portfolio to be completely unrealistic”, the Sky spokesperson said. “Discovery’s portfolio of channels includes many which are linear-only where viewing is falling.”

denphone 25-01-2017 21:45
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Funny how Sky conveniently don't think the price they are asking for Sky Atlantic is unrealistic then..

muppetman11 25-01-2017 21:46
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https://www.sky.com/help/articles/ch...hannel_changes

Dave42 25-01-2017 21:50
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35882249)
Funny how Sky conveniently don't think the price they are asking for Sky Atlantic is unrealistic then..
exactly but they don't want no one to have that

alwaysabear 25-01-2017 21:52
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Looks like there is no going back at the moment.


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