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kwikbreaks 27-10-2013 22:23
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Only 3 - if you are that keen to block P2P surely you could do much better than that a quick google should bring up thousands.

Kushan 27-10-2013 22:26
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Originally Posted by everyday (Post 35637769)
ive reported 3 to FACT via crimestoppers in the past week. Sory but I hate P2P and copyright theft in general.
Those are mutually exclusive things.

qasdfdsaq 27-10-2013 22:49
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Originally Posted by kwikbreaks (Post 35637770)
Only 3 - if you are that keen to block P2P surely you could do much better than that a quick google should bring up thousands.
tbh he seems to be a fan of reporting everybody just about everyday for everything.

Not sure what crime he's imagining this time (apparently Kushan having below "adverage" intelligence was worthy of a police report last week)...

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Originally Posted by kwikbreaks (Post 35637768)
In the sort of areas where VM are competing with FTTC I suspect that the distance from subscriber to cab isn't going to be all that great. For instance I'm ~ 300m from my FTTC cabinet and have a 60Mbps estimate. I'm actually nearer than that to the next cabinet along though. I have seen mention of someone being about a mile (iirc) from their cab but I'd lay odds that there is no cable service there.
According to Thinkbroadband the average line length across the UK is around 480m from cabinet, with 60% of lines being 500m or less.

everyday 27-10-2013 23:54
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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35637775)
tbh he seems to be a fan of reporting everybody just about everyday for everything
Well imature rep comments yes - don't like it don't send them!

AND why does everyone refer to me as "he" I've got women's bits!

Anyway.. I can only assume this 10/16% is so that they can see if it can cope and regain control.

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Originally Posted by Kushan (Post 35637771)
Those are mutually exclusive things.
Also illegal under several different acts.

qasdfdsaq 27-10-2013 23:55
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P2P is not illegal under any act.

Copyright "theft" via P2P is usually a civil matter, not criminal.

Chrysalis 28-10-2013 02:51
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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35637797)
P2P is not illegal under any act.

Copyright "theft" via P2P is usually a civil matter, not criminal.
I think you mean copyright infringement ;)

Theft of copyright would be actually stealing the rights.

The media industry deliberatly using wrong words seems to have rubbed off on people.

craigj2k12 28-10-2013 02:58
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Originally Posted by Kushan (Post 35637771)
Those are mutually exclusive things.
No they arent, they can, and do happen. They are, however, independent

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Originally Posted by everyday (Post 35637778)
Also illegal under several different acts.
What, sharing files you own the rights to via P2P is illegal? News to me

Kushan 28-10-2013 08:31
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Originally Posted by everyday (Post 35637778)
Also illegal under several different acts.
P2P is illegal, is it? You'd best get reporting, then. Last I checked, Skype uses P2P technology. As does Spotify (for its desktop player). Many games uses P2P for updates (World of Warcraft being a prime example). Hell, even twitter uses P2P in their server infrastructure. Best get FACT on the case, they're obviously unaware of all these infringements!

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go download the rights to Disney so I can build my own theme park.

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Originally Posted by craigj2k12 (Post 35637811)
No they arent, they can, and do happen. They are, however, independent
Ah yes, sorry you're correct on that one. What I meant to say was that P2P is not synonymous with copyright infringement.

General Maximus 28-10-2013 08:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kushan (Post 35637836)
Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go download the rights to Disney so I can build my own theme park
talking about that, I read a an article a couple of weeks ago that Disney are doing a massive expansion over the next 4 years to add an Avatar world to the theme park, it looks amazing.

http://www.foxnews.com/travel/2013/1...w-avatar-land/

Take a look at pic 4, if you want to try and built it first please do, I can't wait.

kwikbreaks 28-10-2013 08:51
Re: STM always enforced?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35637775)
According to Thinkbroadband the average line length across the UK is around 480m from cabinet, with 60% of lines being 500m or less.
Probably so but my point is that VM do not operate UK wide they operate in areas of high population density and I suspect that in those areas the average subscriber to cabinet distance is going to be less than the nationwide average.

Kushan 28-10-2013 09:19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 35637844)
talking about that, I read a an article a couple of weeks ago that Disney are doing a massive expansion over the next 4 years to add an Avatar world to the theme park, it looks amazing.

http://www.foxnews.com/travel/2013/1...w-avatar-land/

Take a look at pic 4, if you want to try and built it first please do, I can't wait.
That does look pretty good! I think I'll wait until they're finished with it, then download it for myself :D

kwikbreaks 28-10-2013 09:31
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You'll need a pretty big 3D printer :)

That'll be the next big copyright infringement area I reckon.

everyday 28-10-2013 12:45
Re: STM always enforced?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kushan (Post 35637836)
P2P is illegal, is it? You'd best get reporting, then. Last I checked, Skype uses P2P technology. As does Spotify (for its desktop player). Many games uses P2P for updates (World of Warcraft being a prime example). Hell, even twitter uses P2P in their server infrastructure. Best get FACT on the case, they're obviously unaware of all these infringements!

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go download the rights to Disney so I can build my own theme park.

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Ah yes, sorry you're correct on that one. What I meant to say was that P2P is not synonymous with copyright infringement.
No I meant copyright theft via P2P and you dam well knew that.

kwikbreaks 28-10-2013 12:55
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Theft?

I think you meant copyright infringement as has already been pointed out.

Anyway reporting sites that list trackers and the like is a waste of time. As I said way back they are 10 a penny and a google search will reveal thousands. Do you really think you are the only person who found these sites? I'd be mildly interested to find out how and why you did.

I rather think though that you didn't and your main reason for posting was to produce exactly what has followed. Please go trolling elsewhere.

Kushan 28-10-2013 12:58
Re: STM always enforced?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by everyday (Post 35637949)
No I meant copyright theft via P2P and you dam well knew that.
I didn't, actually, because what you said directly implied that P2P was just as bad as "copyright theft". Otherwise, why on earth would you hate it so?

As someone has already pointed out, Copyright theft has nothing to do with P2P anyway, perhaps you mean copyright infringement, which is a completely different thing.

In any case, I suggest you get off your high-horse.


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