Originally Posted by johnasimmons (Post 35592891)

If your source of information is correct BomberAF this is great news :beer:

Originally Posted by BomberAF (Post 35592904)

The reason I believe the price will stay the same is because BT will have to do a deal with VM. As a result of this VM can sell to VM customers a wholesale price, as VM will be able to guarantee BT X amount of customers and as such many many millions per year. BT cannot expect VM to carry their channel for nothing, or expect VM customers to pay more than non BT sky customers, so VM can make a profit. This would be unlawful, and a breach on competition laws. BT will get a subscription of every person that subscribes to the XL package but it won't be £12 or £15, it will be less. This will allow VM to make a profit as being a middle man or a broker in the deal.

If the price goes up by a pound or 2 then it may be down to the fact that VM have had to pay more for BT sports and have as such had their profit margin squeezed. It may be that VM decide they can charge more for their product.

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35592789)

Just think, IF BT Sport and Atlantic arrive on VM - the Comiong Soon tag, and Media Boy would be made redundant - wouldn't they.

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35592903)

I'm finding this really hard to believe if I'm honest ,

VM have added a mammoth amount of channels a fair few HD , they're going to add Sky Atlantic and BT Sport and include it all for the cost of XL if so were do I sign up ?

Its the BT Sport issue I'm struggling to believe needless to say lets just wait and see I'm happy to be proven wrong.

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35592910)

:omg::omg: the master is a non believer.:D

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35592912)

Come on Den even you can't tell me you believe all that , VM have some excellent packages however adding all that in XL and the price staying virtually the same doesn't stack up for me personally. I'll believe it when its posted on here as official or from a known credible source.

Originally Posted by BomberAF (Post 35592904)

The reason I believe the price will stay the same is because BT will have to do a deal with VM. As a result of this VM can sell to VM customers a wholesale price, as VM will be able to guarantee BT X amount of customers and as such many many millions per year. BT cannot expect VM to carry their channel for nothing, or expect VM customers to pay more than non BT sky customers, so VM can make a profit. This would be unlawful, and a breach on competition laws. BT will get a subscription of every person that subscribes to the XL package but it won't be £12 or £15, it will be less. This will allow VM to make a profit as being a middle man or a broker in the deal.

If the price goes up by a pound or 2 then it may be down to the fact that VM have had to pay more for BT sports and have as such had their profit margin squeezed. It may be that VM decide they can charge more for their product.

Originally Posted by ocav (Post 35592893)

Bad move on them, if they raise the price just for BT Sport ill be off, don't see the point in being forced to pay for a channel I will probably never really watch.

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35592912)

Come on Den even you can't tell me you believe all that , VM have some excellent packages however adding all that in XL and the price staying virtually the same doesn't stack up for me personally. I'll believe it when its posted on here as official or from a known credible source.

Originally Posted by harry_hitch (Post 35592915)

IF there is a price rise and we do get SA and BT sports, surely the addition of SA will also be included in any future possible price rises.
Also I did not see what package you are on, but if you are on XL, I guess there are a few channels you do not really watch currently, so what will be the difference?

Originally Posted by BomberAF (Post 35592916)

Don't expect you to believe me, and I am not doing it for credit or to be a known source. Atlantic will go onto VM because like I have said Atlantic was a tool that Sky used to sell themselves as a premium channel and VM a compromise. If you haven't left VM now you are probably not going to. you also have to consider that people are just downloading torrents of the programs shown on Atlantic so Sky are losing money.

It was always going to happen that 2 years after Atlantic being exclusive to sky it will be given to VM.

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Sky will give it to VM as part of the deal they have with VM so there will be no additional cost for it. Sky make a lot of money from selling their products to VM. Sky don't charge VM for individual channels they charge them a set price for all channels.

Like you say the only price rise will be in future price rises, Sky customers dont get charged extra for Sky Atlantic.

Originally Posted by BomberAF (Post 35592914)

VM now have more people paying for an XL subscription because the dream boxes have gone.

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35592929)

I don't understand what you mean by that.

Originally Posted by BomberAF (Post 35592930)

When the dream boxes were around, people weren't subscribing to the XL pack they were just subscribing to basic packages. Therefore there is now more money available to VM, so that means although BT sport may cost more to VM than ESPN because of more money available people aren't having to pay more.