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trying to find a contact number for quinns can anyone please help

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Virgin Media and Fujitsu and further subcontracting......mmmmm

Just completed training for a sub contractor to Fujitsu for the VM Tivo upgrades.
I would agree with what others have said about the job as described bearing no resemblance to reality. Original job offer was for 6-8 Virgin Tivo upgrades per day in customer homes local to depot. £10.00 per job, tools ? , clothing , van and fuel card , payment through the usual umbrella company scenario.
Turns out the job will be Tivo, re-locating V+ boxes, Broadband upgrades and installs in bedrooms if required , hence ladder use etc etc etc......
Additionally the Fujitsu points scheme for payment is to be adopted next week meaning a broadband upgrade will be paid less (£5.00 approx) but will still involve travelling contacting customer etc.
I spent a day with a tech and between 8am and 6pm we achieved 8 jobs of which I went off and did 3 myself. We didn't stop for a break and all the jobs were between 20 and 30 miles from the depot. Add to this stock ordering and acquisition and pre-planning of the work load all in your own time, plus job sheets, time sheets, mileage sheets, it really is taking the ****...but then when a company sub contracts to a company that then sub contracts and then insists on paying an umbrella company what do you expect....

Another friend has just started with Fujitsu on cable installation and wants to leave (£60 a day) but has been told to read his contract. Apparently he owes them £1000 for the training if he leaves within 12 months !!! anyone else heard of this ?

Thankfully it looks like the BT LLU contracting is back on the cards. Seemed a bit naff at the time but compared to what is available now it was pretty good.

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Yes mate this is in the contract, ive just finished my training at Fujitsu which was not very good at all.

what i dont get is how can they take it if you dont have it there :) or if you want to leave, best to get sacked imo then save 1000 pounds

im gonna give it a try and see what i think.

and the 60 a day is whilst training.

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If the training has not cost Ftel £1000 then surely this is thinly veiled blackmail, and 'sharp practice' ?

As you say the best option is probably to get sacked.
Another problem with these positions and the VM customer installs is the personal liability for all the equipment 'issued' to you for the installations.
I could not get an answer as to who was liable for the kit if it was stolen from my van ?

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Good point i never fought to ask that.
i had half a day to do a triple install. without being shown as i have never worked for VM before lol.
We did streetworks, ladder test, cable pull, and thenrest was pc based doing Ignite.
I could have done with more help on the Telco side of things. but hey hoe.
Start this week shadowing an engineer , so i should learn more.

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I met with a private contractor on Friday in Ealing and he was telling me that he comes from Birmingham, as London contractors could not be trusted.

He says that there have been so many complaints regarding a certain company that VM have pulled a plug on them, BUT he didn't work for the companies that have been on this thread.

And they only do Five instals per day.

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yes Fujitsu took the contract from Kelly's

and now MAP have the contract to tidy up the DP's {Green Cabinets}

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been workin on the vm contract for a month now, think the job is good but just cant see how you can make money without getting home at 10 at night some nights.i done 1 week in birmingham and then shadowed someone for a week, think the actual job is good but not the hours for the pay

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so are you on a 2 man van doin cable pulls ?

ive done 2 weeks training, and will now shadow an engineer, as im goin single van man.

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You have hit the nail on the head there. This type of work has always been interesting but at what price ?

Too many companies subbying means those at the bottom of the pile actually doing the work will not get enough pay, or have to work ridiculous hours.

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two man mate, shadowed an engineer doin the insides then got shafted to be a 2 man gang, so dont get your hopes up mate, it seems like all the new starters are being 2 man gangs to do the worst jobs.

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thats it mate, promised i was gonna be workin on my own but been put with some kid, so even less money, great.

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im on installs doing between 6-9 1man jobs and if im not in my house by 2 im not happy saw some new guy doing an install at the bottom of my road last week and he was there for about 5hrs (normal 3 bed terrace) i dont know what some people do. As for the money i heard fujitsu was paying well a few mates doing exceptionally well on the new terms

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even on 2man with 4-5 i would expect to be home by 4 at the latest

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I feel sorry for VM installers, if they are working long hours for peanuts.

Major companies expect too much from therefore workforce, its the same old story from managers ' if l can do it, so can you'

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i guess it would depend on what the installs were, triples, quads etc, then waiting for the Tivo box to download, even if this is hooked up first :)

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Any news on what MJ Quinns are like;FTel are killing me slowly ive been here over 10yrs doing business/network and can no longer work with incompitant halfwits who could not oraganise a **** up in a brewery,they have no idea of how to run a bath never mind a multi million pound contract,they are without doubt the worst contractor,they should stick to being a managment company like before when they ran the business contract before Map,then they had 1 comms manager and 1 civils manager and they talked unlike now when there is an office full with not 1 person taking charge each doing little bits of the job then ****in on the lads that have done this job for years,VM get rid of all the old Map and NMC managers give FTel the contract but and let them be a managment company only leave the work on the ground to people who have done this for years and are excellent at it,if not everyone will leave and with that take vast knowledge of the network with them SOMEONE PLEASE LISTEN