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Derek 19-05-2010 11:55
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Originally Posted by Mr Angry (Post 35024430)
Do you, or others, eat what you catch and kill?
Mostly, sometimes not.

Mr Angry 19-05-2010 11:58
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Originally Posted by Derek S (Post 35024460)
Mostly, sometimes not.
How do you make the determination?

Derek 19-05-2010 12:45
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Originally Posted by Mr Angry (Post 35024462)
How do you make the determination?
Mostly what is caught. The size/health of the fish also decides.

If its edible then most of the time I'll keep it. If not it'll be returned to thrown to the gulls.

Mr Angry 19-05-2010 12:57
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Originally Posted by Derek S (Post 35024497)
Mostly what is caught. The size/health of the fish also decides.

If its edible then most of the time I'll keep it. If not it'll be returned to thrown to the gulls.

Mostly sea fishing then.

I was just seeking clarification, which you've kindly provided.

You determine the fate of your quarry, not a third party. You act as an arbiter of health & suitability for eating of your catch and you will return those which are inedible. However, on occasion you will interject and, for whatever reason, kill those fish you determine to be unhealthy or inedible and feed them to gulls.

Hardly the same premise as foxhunting. Feel free not to report to the nearest lamp post.

Pierre 19-05-2010 13:15
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Originally Posted by Flyboy (Post 35023346)
What other forms of hunting are allowed, which include the pursuit of an animal close to death by exhaustion and eventually torn to pieces by a frenzied, baying pack of hounds, accompanied by up to a hundred people on horseback, all shouting for blood?
As I've posted before:

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Fox hunting is a sport, a countryside pastime, believed by the great unwashed to be partaken only by the landed gentry, which is the only reason it was banned. Because Labour reckon it is a sport for snobs, a day out for the rich, so Labour must stop the rich having their fun.

Lots of other sports hurt and/or kill animals. Horse racing, greyhound racing (greyhounds are often killed, abandonded when their racing days are over), fishing, Falconry (yes you're allowed to have a captive hawk kill another bird for sport), Ferreting all these without mentioning cruel snares and traps.

Hom3r 19-05-2010 13:16
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Originally Posted by Derek S (Post 35024350)
Excellent. I quite enjoy fishing which normally ends with a fish getting murdered by bashing its head off the side of a boat or a rock.

Should I report to the nearest lamppost for stringing up? :rolleyes:
Hunting for food is competely unrelated. Fox hunting is a so called sport done by rich tory *******s, who take great pleasure in watching a poor defenseless animal ripped to pieces.:rolleyes:

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Why it's a public forum isn't it?? Oh so sorry it's a Tory controlled Labour bashing forum isn't it?

Because it against the sites T&C, regardless wether or not you are labour or tory.

Pierre 19-05-2010 13:24
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Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35024517)
Hunting for food is competely unrelated. Fox hunting is a so called sport by rich tory *******s, who take great pleasure in watching a poor defenseless animal ripped to pieces.:rolleyes:
I'm not a rich tory *******, but I'm not against fox hunting.

I was born and brought up in Liverpool, but if people want to ride out in the countryside on horses with 50 dogs chasing a fox, and perhaps ripping it to pieces then I have no problem with it.

I don't see what business it is of mine.

I liken it to bullfighting, a barbaric sport but part of Spains history and heritage.

There are barnaric blood sports all over the world, and more besides just fox hunting in this country. There's just too much hypocrisy in this debate.

Hom3r 19-05-2010 13:34
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Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35024517)
Hunting for food is competely unrelated. Fox hunting is a so called sport done by rich tory *******s
Sorry missed a word of my orriginal post

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35024524)
I'm not a rich tory *******, but I'm not against fox hunting.

I was born and brought up in Liverpool, but if people want to ride out in the countryside on horses with 50 dogs chasing a fox, and perhaps ripping it to pieces then I have no problem with it.

I don't see what business it is of mine.

I liken it to bullfighting, a barbaric sport but part of Spains history and heritage.

There are barnaric blood sports all over the world, and more besides just fox hunting in this country. There's just too much hypocrisy in this debate.

So would you be happy to have 50 hounds jumping in your garden crapping everywhere, wrecking in the garden in the progress and killing your pet dog in the process, then having those red coated pricks on horse back being rude about it, sitting all high and mighty on there horses.

This happened to my nan who lived in the country.

Flyboy 19-05-2010 13:59
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35024512)
As I've posted before:
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Fox hunting is a sport, a countryside pastime, believed by the great unwashed to be partaken only by the landed gentry, which is the only reason it was banned. Because Labour reckon it is a sport for snobs, a day out for the rich, so Labour must stop the rich having their fun.
Just because it has gone of for a long time does not make it right. There is no sport in the torture of another living being, other than the crazed perverted bloodlust of another. The loudest cry of classist behaviour comes not from the objectors of this activity, but from the participants and its supporters (as you have ably proven here). They are the ones whose excuses have been reduced to class, not those who rationally object to its existence.

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Lots of other sports hurt and/or kill animals. Horse racing, greyhound racing (greyhounds are often killed, abandonded when their racing days are over), fishing, Falconry (yes you're allowed to have a captive hawk kill another bird for sport), Ferreting all these without mentioning cruel snares and traps.
These pursuits are also just as objectionable, what is your point?

Xaccers 19-05-2010 14:58
Re: Bring Back Fox Hunting
 
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Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35024530)
Sorry missed a word of my orriginal post




So would you be happy to have 50 hounds jumping in your garden crapping everywhere, wrecking in the garden in the progress and killing your pet dog in the process, then having those red coated pricks on horse back being rude about it, sitting all high and mighty on there horses.

This happened to my nan who lived in the country.
Would you object to it if it was predominantly miners who participated?

Pauls9 19-05-2010 15:51
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Originally Posted by Flyboy (Post 35024545)
Just because it has gone of for a long time does not make it right. There is no sport in the torture of another living being, other than the crazed perverted bloodlust of another. The loudest cry of classist behaviour comes not from the objectors of this activity, but from the participants and its supporters (as you have ably proven here). They are the ones whose excuses have been reduced to class, not those who rationally object to its existence.

These pursuits are also just as objectionable, what is your point?
Nicely put, Flyboy.

If a creature needs to be killed (for food, to end its suffering, because it's a nuisance, for example) then do it as humanely as possible. Let's keep the ban on hunting with dogs and look for the next cruel sport to target.
We'll get to fishing purely for sport eventually.

Hugh 19-05-2010 16:25
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Ahem - some examples of non-classist rational objections against fox-hunting used in this thread (btw, I do not support fox-hunting).

Chinless Inbred-Tory gets hunted by a load of foxes
i hope that someday you will have a pack of hounds chewing at your nuts
hope the toffs have a painfull/fatal accidents
the hunters should be chased and attacked and ripped apart by the dogs, that would be fun for me to watch.
a load of psychos in red coats

And that was just in the first couple of pages, not counting on this page
rich tory *******s
red coated pricks on horse back

TheDaddy 19-05-2010 18:46
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35024512)
As I've posted before:
Quote:
Fox hunting is a sport, a countryside pastime, believed by the great unwashed to be partaken only by the landed gentry, which is the only reason it was banned. Because Labour reckon it is a sport for snobs, a day out for the rich, so Labour must stop the rich having their fun.

Lots of other sports hurt and/or kill animals. Horse racing, greyhound racing (greyhounds are often killed, abandonded when their racing days are over), fishing, Falconry (yes you're allowed to have a captive hawk kill another bird for sport), Ferreting all these without mentioning cruel snares and traps.
Interestingly enough hunting foxes with birds isn't covered by this ban....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4255614.stm

Sirius 19-05-2010 19:09
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Originally Posted by Bluffdemon (Post 35024343)
anybody who hunts and kills animals for sport and pure pleasure needs to be hunted themselves
You get my vote on that.

Xaccers 19-05-2010 19:11
Re: Bring Back Fox Hunting
 
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Originally Posted by Bluffdemon (Post 35024343)
anybody who hunts and kills animals for sport and pure pleasure needs to be hunted themselves
So if they agree to that, then they should be free to hunt and kill animals for sport?


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