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TheDaddy 09-10-2008 02:49
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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 34650285)
that Palyscenko is out till the end of this month, and we are left with Bale, We can't rely on Campbell, as Juande won't play him for a full game.

We need a couple of on loan strikers, What club would get rid of there two main strikers, we knew ******* Berba, was going, but not Keano.
Err Bale is a left back, things must be bad if the spuds are playing him up front. You might need them on loan but you can't have them till January and who is going to loan you a striker that is any good? Getting over 50 million for those two was good business imo you should have been able to get 5 or 6 really good players in for that, if I were you I'd be more annoyed at selling Defoe for peanuts.

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Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34650499)
If having such famous names play each week makes the fans pay millions to the club to see them, isn't it only right the players get a wedge of that? If it was not for the big names then would the club make so much money in merchandising, ticket revenue? I'm not saying it's right that a man gets £120,000 a week, but put in perspective I understand it.
I cant understand why the wages are so high, they are more than double on average than Serie A and nearly double of La Liga players, doesn't make sense to me.

sherer 09-10-2008 11:15
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 34650599)
I cant understand why the wages are so high, they are more than double on average than Serie A and nearly double of La Liga players, doesn't make sense to me.
That is interesting didn't know that. Have you got any links on the wages ? Thought it was the same otherwise why would Ruud and Robben go off to Real are you are talking about an average across the league ?

Ronaldinho was meant to be on nearly 200,000 a week at Barca

Shadow Demon UK 09-10-2008 11:34
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Originally Posted by sherer (Post 34650660)
That is interesting didn't know that. Have you got any links on the wages ? Thought it was the same otherwise why would Ruud and Robben go off to Real are you are talking about an average across the league ?

Ronaldinho was meant to be on nearly 200,000 a week at Barca
Ofcourse the top clubs like Real Madrid, Barcalona and Milan are going to be similar to top premier league clubs, but it's more the mid table clubs that make the big difference, like the wage bills of Spurs, Man city, Aston Villa etc are much higher then clubs in similar positions in other leagues. I read somehwere that last season the overall Premier league wage bill was over £1billion where La Ligas, who were second to the Premier league, was not even £600million.

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Here's the link http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...n-barrier.html

I thought this was intresting from that article

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Attendances are also up, with the Championship now the world's fourth biggest league, above Serie A.

Saaf_laandon_mo 09-10-2008 11:46
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I'd like to see a cap on wages, and more of a structure to channel money into the lower leagues. A few days ago a point was made that video evidence could not be used in the premiership because smaller clubs could not afford to implement it so the permiership would not adopt it. This way facilities in smaller clubs could improve.

Capped wages could also be a means to subsidising tickets so that football becomes more affordable. I do think that the attitude towards players would change if wages were capped.

Russ 09-10-2008 12:10
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Capped wages would need to be worldwide otherwise we'll never have real quality in the UK.

Saaf_laandon_mo 09-10-2008 12:14
Re: Football : Season 08/09
 
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Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34650683)
Capped wages would need to be worldwide otherwise we'll never have real quality in the UK.
Definately... For this to work it needs to be implemented across the board, in all countries.

Russ 09-10-2008 12:16
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I can't see it happening though. There are too many primadonnas in the game I can't see some of them accepting a pay cut.

Saaf_laandon_mo 09-10-2008 12:20
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So what will they do? Stop playing football? I'd rather be on 50K a week than nothing a week as such.

Russ 09-10-2008 12:27
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I don't know what they'll do but what do people normally do when they're being told they're not getting the pay they're used to?

Saaf_laandon_mo 09-10-2008 12:33
Re: Football : Season 08/09
 
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Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34650693)
I don't know what they'll do but what do people normally do when they're being told they're not getting the pay they're used to?
Well most people look for another job in the field they are qualified in. DSo if football wages were capped across all countries the footballer would be in a bit of a sticky spot. He would have 3 choices. Get a job outside football, take a paycut or dont play football at all.

Damien 09-10-2008 13:38
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All that will happen is that the clubs and higher-ups will get more money...

sherer 09-10-2008 14:36
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I think what they need to do is limit a club so that they can only spend x amount of their income on wages rather than a wage cap of players. It will still have the desired affect but will be a fairer means as some clubs earn more than others.

Going back to what Shadow said about Man City, Spurs , Villa etc this is why we have so few English players. The average players can earn far more playing in England than they can abroad or back home and so these clubs buy these players instead. It is cheaper to buy a proven player with experience than it is to train up a youngster to the same level so we import the average players from abroad

Nugget 09-10-2008 15:19
Re: Football : Season 08/09
 
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Originally Posted by sherer (Post 34650771)
I think what they need to do is limit a club so that they can only spend x amount of their income on wages rather than a wage cap of players. It will still have the desired affect but will be a fairer means as some clubs earn more than others.

Going back to what Shadow said about Man City, Spurs , Villa etc this is why we have so few English players. The average players can earn far more playing in England than they can abroad or back home and so these clubs buy these players instead. It is cheaper to buy a proven player with experience than it is to train up a youngster to the same level so we import the average players from abroad
Just to take slight issue with including Villa in that list, out of a first team squad of 25, there are currently 16 English players. We may have got tonked by Chelsea at the weekend, but at least most of the victims came from this country :D

Actually, they've also currently got 34 reserves / youth players, and 25 of them are English, so that's a step in the right direction :)

sherer 09-10-2008 16:39
Re: Football : Season 08/09
 
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Originally Posted by Nugget (Post 34650810)
Just to take slight issue with including Villa in that list, out of a first team squad of 25, there are currently 16 English players. We may have got tonked by Chelsea at the weekend, but at least most of the victims came from this country :D

Actually, they've also currently got 34 reserves / youth players, and 25 of them are English, so that's a step in the right direction :)
sorry I was just picking teams at random there without really looking into how many of the squad were English

Nugget 09-10-2008 16:51
Re: Football : Season 08/09
 
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Originally Posted by sherer (Post 34650853)
sorry I was just picking teams at random there without really looking into how many of the squad were English
Not a problem really - just that it's the only thing we have going for us after the weekend :D


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