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thenry 19-09-2025 11:59
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Sadiq Khan didn't get an invite to Windsor castle :rofl: That must have hurt. He's invited to anything capital related :p:

Hugh 19-09-2025 12:11
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36202950)
It's a Radical Idea. I like it.
Thought you might…

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Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36202953)
Sadiq Khan didn't get an invite to Windsor castle :rofl: That must have hurt. He's invited to anything capital related :p:
Windsor isn’t in London…

papa smurf 19-09-2025 12:14
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36202950)
It's a Radical Idea. I like it.
a warning shot first in the interest of international diplomacy

thenry 19-09-2025 12:18
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36202954)
Windsor isn’t in London…
Oh may be he wasn't so upset then :(

Itshim 19-09-2025 17:35
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36202935)
How exactly would you expect "military assets" to prevent the boats crossing?

Would you expect them to shoot at the boats?
If you think of them as an invading force, why not . At least tow them back from whence they came.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36202948)
:LOL: do you believe this country will offend allies in that way? It all sounds very self absorbing
Works for USA, Israel, Russia , China and Australia.

thenry 19-09-2025 17:37
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36202981)
Works for USA, Israel, Russia , China and Australia.
:Yes: but :no:

1andrew1 19-09-2025 18:00
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36202981)
Works for USA, Israel, Russia , China and Australia.
Except it doesn't for Australia.They now all come by plane instead. I don't know about the other countries, I wouldn't have thought getting into Israel would be very easy.

Sephiroth 19-09-2025 19:07
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36202992)
Except it doesn't for Australia.They now all come by plane instead. I don't know about the other countries, I wouldn't have thought getting into Israel would be very easy.
Who are "they" in this context? People without visas? Where would that be documented?

Itshim 20-09-2025 16:28
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36202992)
Except it doesn't for Australia.They now all come by plane instead. I don't know about the other countries, I wouldn't have thought getting into Israel would be very easy.
I was referring to not worrying or caring about "offending " other countries. :D

Hugh 20-09-2025 23:40
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
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1andrew1 20-09-2025 23:46
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36203061)
I was referring to not worrying or caring about "offending " other countries. :D
My bad, thanks, makes perfect sense.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36203086)
Has he given up on Greenland and Canada?

Stephen 21-09-2025 01:51
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36203086)
I thought the Russians built it?

Paul 21-09-2025 02:47
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 36203089)
I thought the Russians built it?
Its history seems to support this, they built the first airfield in the 1950's.
In fact, it seems the US didnt really have control until after the (British) SBS took control of it in 2001.

The US then held it for about 20 years, and built most of the current infrastructure.
They abandoned at the very start of July 2021, basically handing it back to Afghanistan.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bagram_Airfield

Of course, facts have never really been Trumps strongpoint ...

TheDaddy 21-09-2025 09:17
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36203090)
Its history seems to support this, they built the first airfield in the 1950's.
In fact, it seems the US didnt really have control until after the (British) SBS took control of it in 2001.

The US then held it for about 20 years, and built most of the current infrastructure.
They abandoned at the very start of July 2021, basically handing it back to Afghanistan.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bagram_Airfield

Of course, facts have never really been Trumps strongpoint ...
Wonder if he's surrounded by enough yes men and boot lickers to think, in his cognitively challenged mind that starting a war might be a good distraction from Epstein :(

Carth 21-09-2025 09:43
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36203092)
Wonder if he's surrounded by enough yes men and boot lickers to think, in his cognitively challenged mind that starting a war might be a good distraction from Epstein :(
Wars are good for the economy . . allegedly . . . and probably somehow proved by statistics too.

Maybe playing into the hands of all those rooting tooting shooting gung ho red blooded Americans with a burning desire to prove their God is the biggest and bestest.

pip08456 21-09-2025 18:51
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36203092)
Wonder if he's surrounded by enough yes men and boot lickers to think, in his cognitively challenged mind that starting a war might be a good distraction from Epstein :(
You really need to wonder????

TheDaddy 21-09-2025 19:12
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36203132)
You really need to wonder????
Well he does want that Nobel peace prize an awful lot, so much so that the other day he claimed one of the wars he stopped was between Cambodia and Armenia :spin:

pip08456 21-09-2025 19:31
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36203134)
Well he does want that Nobel peace prize an awful lot, so much so that the other day he claimed one of the wars he stopped was between Cambodia and Armenia :spin:
There are a few wars between unrelated Countries that he claims to have stopped. There are a couple he had nothing to do with also.

Perhaps if he had concentrated on the one he said he would end in 24hrs would be better instead of giving Putin all the time he needs to continue killing civillians.

Nobel Peace Prize? He needs to dream on.

1andrew1 21-09-2025 23:33
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
More curtailing of free speech from the Trump regime

Quote:
Pentagon orders journalists to agree to new reporting rules - or be barred

The move has sparked outrage from journalists' groups, with one calling it "a dangerous step toward government censorship".

Journalists at the Pentagon have been told they could be barred if they gather or report information that officials haven't approved first.

Reporters' access to the iconic building, the headquarters of the US defence department, is also being curtailed.

A memo announcing the changes was sent to reporters on Friday, informing them "information must be approved for public release by an appropriate authorizing official before it is released, even if it is unclassified".

They must sign an agreement agreeing to the new rules or face having their press pass revoked.

Journalists' groups said it was a dangerous move that would seriously restrict their ability to hold defence officials to account.

The National Press Club called it "a direct assault on independent journalism at the very place where independent scrutiny matters most: the US military".

The Society of Professional Journalists said it "would deny the American people the transparency and accountability they deserve".

"This policy reeks of prior restraint - the most egregious violation of press freedom under the First Amendment - and is a dangerous step toward government censorship," it said.

"Attempts to silence the press under the guise of 'security' are part of a disturbing pattern of growing government hostility toward transparency and democratic norms."

The defence department - which recently rebranded itself as the Department of War - said it "remains committed to transparency to promote accountability and public trust".

However, it stated that disclosing information - even if unclassified - without consent was a potential national security risk.
https://news.sky.com/story/pentagon-...arred-13435347

As to why Trump might be doing this:
  • In March, a journalist was accidentally included on a group chat, which included the defence secretary and vice president, discussing plans to attack Houthi rebels in Yemen.
  • A leaked intelligence report suggested that the US's bombing of Iran had only set its nuclear weapon plans back by months.

Anonymouse 23-09-2025 01:34
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Okay, if he ever had it, which I sincerely doubt, he's lost it. He's blaming Tylenol (paracetamol in the UK) for the rapid rise in autism - without supporting evidence (there is evidence which shows the opposite). About the only true thing he's said is that there's a 'horrible, horrible crisis' with autism, which admittedly there is.

Let's flag down a cab and head for Real Street, which Republicans aren't familiar with (they can't be, else how did he get in?). Tylenol has been used for decades - surely someone would've spotted it earlier.

However, the untrusting cynic in me is doing a Vimes and saying 'follow the money'. Does he have an alternative...and does it cost more? Does he have a link with big pharma?

Mr K 23-09-2025 07:36
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Anonymouse (Post 36203235)
Okay, if he ever had it, which I sincerely doubt, he's lost it. He's blaming Tylenol (paracetamol in the UK) for the rapid rise in autism - without supporting evidence (there is evidence which shows the opposite).
Be fair, Dr Trump did find the cure for covid, drinking a bottle of bleach. If only he'd followed his own advice..

1andrew1 23-09-2025 08:09
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Anyone think that Trump's pandering to the whims of his crazy health secretary might just be an attempt to distract the public from the Epstein story and his failure to bring peace to Ukraine and elsewhere?

Stephen 23-09-2025 09:11
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Anonymouse (Post 36203235)
Okay, if he ever had it, which I sincerely doubt, he's lost it. He's blaming Tylenol (paracetamol in the UK) for the rapid rise in autism - without supporting evidence (there is evidence which shows the opposite). About the only true thing he's said is that there's a 'horrible, horrible crisis' with autism, which admittedly there is.

Let's flag down a cab and head for Real Street, which Republicans aren't familiar with (they can't be, else how did he get in?). Tylenol has been used for decades - surely someone would've spotted it earlier.

However, the untrusting cynic in me is doing a Vimes and saying 'follow the money'. Does he have an alternative...and does it cost more? Does he have a link with big pharma?
There is one problem with them trying to blame paracetamol for Autism and that is paracetamol went on sale around 1956 and the first medical report on Autism as far as I can tell was written in 1943

It is clearly down to genetics and I do not think there has been a massive rise in it. We have just gotten more aware and better at diagnosing it. As even those pretty low on the spectrum are now getting diagnosed.

Chris 23-09-2025 09:35
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36203237)
Anyone think that Trump's pandering to the whims of his crazy health secretary might just be an attempt to distract the public from the Epstein story and his failure to bring peace to Ukraine and elsewhere?
Partly, perhaps, but there is a very real sense in which Trump usually just burbles on about the last thing someone whispers in his ear. He can’t hold on to a train of thought for any length of time. RFK probably just got some face-to-face time with him since he got back from Windsor Castle.

papa smurf 23-09-2025 09:55
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Are they banning Tylenol or just bad mouthing it ?

Chris 23-09-2025 09:57
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Warning people not to take it unless ‘medically necessary’.

Which to me sounds like ‘as you were’.

Nobody could accuse them of thinking anything through, could they …

papa smurf 23-09-2025 09:59
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36203243)
Warning people not to take it unless ‘medically necessary’.

Which to me sounds like ‘as you were’.

Nobody could accuse them of thinking anything through, could they …
surely this could end up in the courts Tylenol sales must be in the $billions

1andrew1 23-09-2025 10:11
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36203244)
surely this could end up in the courts Tylenol sales must be in the $billions
In the US it's branded and owned by one company so in theory, they have a strong interest to challenge Trump and his nuttier side-kick Robert F Kennedy Jr. (Does that mean junior IQ?)
However, the warning is so light it's probably better if the drug company ignores it and lets it blow over.

Damien 23-09-2025 12:24
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
It's just a brand name for Paracetamol, isn't it? Weird how the entire discussion seems based around the brand name.

Stephen 23-09-2025 12:42
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
I think in America you can only get paracetamol as its brand name of Tylenol. Where as here there are many versions and its sold as paracetamol under made brands.

Chris 23-09-2025 12:42
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36203252)
It's just a brand name for Paracetamol, isn't it? Weird how the entire discussion seems based around the brand name.
Either it’s like talking about hoovers, portakabins and roller blades in the UK (trademarks that have entered into common speech) or else they’re taking a calculated swipe at the Tylenol trademark owner.

Paracetamol is available as a generic drug in the US. Its regulated name, spelled in US English, is acetaminofen.

I don’t know whether the TM owner is crafting a sternly-worded complaint to send to the White House, but when I was a reporter we used to get legal letters every time we accidentally used trademarks instead of generic names. We had a list of ones we weren’t meant to use, including some surprising ones (“tannoy system” springs to mind as a less-well-known one). The owner of the ‘roller blade’ trademark was our most frequent correspondent because ‘in-line skates’ were all the rage in the 90s when I was writing for the papers and hooligans buzzing pedestrians was one of our staple stories.

papa smurf 23-09-2025 12:46
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36203252)
It's just a brand name for Paracetamol, isn't it? Weird how the entire discussion seems based around the brand name.
just pulled this from the web

Paracetamol is known as acetaminophen in the USA. Acetaminophen relieves mild-to-moderate pain, headache and fever. It is available as brand names such as Tylenol, Mapap or Panadol, and also as generics and store-specific brands


sounds like a campaign against one company

Hugh 23-09-2025 12:48
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36203256)
just pulled this from the web

Paracetamol is known as acetaminophen in the USA. Acetaminophen relieves mild-to-moderate pain, headache and fever. It is available as brand names such as Tylenol, Mapap or Panadol, and also as generics and store-specific brands


sounds like a campaign against one company
Hanlon's razor

Quote:
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

papa smurf 23-09-2025 12:55
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
on the up side if you can pronounce amimaninafiminol you're doing better than the Donut er the Donald

TheDaddy 23-09-2025 13:14
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36203259)
on the up side if you can pronounce amimaninafiminol you're doing better than the Donut er the Donald
Yeah, why would anyone listen to him when he can't even pronounce it :spin:

As for a worn eating half my brain RFK I'd rather not take advice from a 20 year smack head if you don't mind, that poor worm, it ate half his brain and ended up stupider after dinner

Hugh 23-09-2025 15:45
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
If you’re not watching Trump’s UN speech, here is a brief summary


Quote:
Me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me…

thenry 23-09-2025 15:52
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Con job :LOL: just call it a blowjob Trump :rofl:

papa smurf 23-09-2025 15:54
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36203272)
If you’re not watching Trump’s UN speech, here is a brief summary
but he's not braggadocios

and calling it a speech it's more of a waffle

Paul 23-09-2025 16:16
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Is he a Doctor now ?
No, well then ignore him.
Hes just proving hes a moron ... again.

Chris 23-09-2025 16:33
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Love the BBC website headline … ‘wide ranging speech’ - journalist code for ‘unfocused, self-indulgent waffle’. :rofl:

papa smurf 23-09-2025 16:40
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
was the autocue faulty or was it sabotaged to save us from his prattle

Hugh 23-09-2025 20:47
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
https://wapo.st/42Mye03

Quote:
President Donald Trump said Tuesday that he thinks NATO countries should shoot down Russian aircraft if they enter their airspace. “Yes, I do,” Trump said in response to a reporter when asked about that scenario at a meeting with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky on the sidelines of the U.N. General Assembly. NATO members have cited multiple instances in recent weeks of Russian drones and aircraft entering their airspace. Minutes after meeting with Zelensky, Trump said on social media that he thinks Ukraine, with help from European allies, could win back all the land it’s lost to Russia, a country he called a “paper tiger.” It’s an escalation of the president’s rhetoric on the war and marks a significant departure from how he has previously characterized the countries’ positions.
Quote:
“I think Ukraine, with the support of the European Union, is in a position to fight and WIN all of Ukraine back in its original form,” he said in a social media post that went up about 30 minutes after his meeting with Zelensky concluded. “With time, patience, and the financial support of Europe and, in particular, NATO, the original Borders from where this War started, is very much an option. Why not?”

He said that Russia “has been fighting aimlessly” and that its military has not been dominant.

“In fact, it is very much making them look like ‘a paper tiger,’” Trump wrote.
He said that Ukraine, whose troops he has complimented for their bravery, could take back the land that Russia currently occupies.

“And, who knows, maybe even go further than that!” Trump added. “Putin and Russia are in BIG Economic trouble, and this is the time for Ukraine to act. In any event, I wish both Countries well. We will continue to supply weapons to NATO for NATO to do what they want with them.”
:confused:

Damien 23-09-2025 21:14
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
That's a pretty big change

Carth 23-09-2025 21:37
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
I'm starting to get the feeling that he deliberately spouts a load of old bollox because he knows the media will lap it up.

Chris 23-09-2025 21:48
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36203307)
That's a pretty big change
Only if it results in different action. Trump has been periodically tough on Russia, in rhetoric, since coming into office. He has never yet actually done anything that advantages Ukraine.

Damien 23-09-2025 22:30
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
yeah we'll see

1andrew1 23-09-2025 22:35
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Good to remember Taco in this instance. (Trump always chickens out)

TheDaddy 23-09-2025 23:26
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36203311)
Good to remember Taco in this instance. (Trump always chickens out)
And when he trips up the stairs of his plane again, Taco Fell

1andrew1 23-09-2025 23:40
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36203313)
And when he trips up the stairs of his plane again, Taco Fell
:D

1andrew1 24-09-2025 12:55
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
I think Khan is right to say that he's living rent-free in Trump's head. I've never known a world leader to be so obsessed with the leader of a city outside his own country!

Quote:
Donald Trump is 'racist, sexist and Islamophobic', says Sadiq Khan amid feud with US president

Asked about the attacks made by the US president, who enjoyed his second state visit to the UK last week, Sir Sadiq said: "I think President Trump has shown he is racist, he is sexist, he is misogynistic, and he is Islamophobic."

He went on to say the public would be "wondering what it is about this Muslim mayor who leads a liberal, multicultural, progressive, successful city that means I appear to be living rent-free inside Donald Trump's head".

"When people say things, when people act in a certain way, when people behave in a certain way, you've got to believe them," he added.
https://news.sky.com/story/donald-tr...ident-13437207

Damien 24-09-2025 21:34
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
There is an odd obsession with London on the American right and the American media. It's weird not least because pretty much all their cities have higher rates of crime, especially violent crime, than London.

London isn't even the most dangerous area in the UK adjusted for population size. Last I checked it's quite far down.

1andrew1 24-09-2025 22:57
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
I just don't get their interest. It's just a capital city of another medium-sized northern European country.

Sephiroth 24-09-2025 23:02
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
It's prolly a deflection from their own woes.

1andrew1 24-09-2025 23:17
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Maybe. Don't get me wrong, I'm flattered by their interest but feel it's odd.

Sephiroth 24-09-2025 23:22
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Yes - it is odd.

Hugh 25-09-2025 07:44
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...tration-putin/

Quote:
Trump’s blast toward Russia is a ‘negotiating tactic,’ White House says

President Donald Trump’s furious rhetoric toward Russia is “a negotiating tactic” intended to pressure the Kremlin, a senior White House official said Wednesday, a day after the president stunned global policymakers and delighted Ukrainian leaders by embracing Kyiv’s ambitions for a decisive defeat of Russia.

The president’s apparent flip in favor of Ukraine’s reconquering its full territory is a marker of Trump’s frustration toward Russian President Vladimir Putin, the senior White House official said, a month after a red-carpet summit in Alaska between the two leaders yielded few concrete results.

But Trump was not signaling a major shift in U.S. policy toward Kyiv during a day at the U.N. General Assembly in which he met with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, the official said, speaking like others on the condition of anonymity to talk frankly about sensitive diplomatic discussions.

The U.S. president has long suggested that Ukraine will need to give up territory to end the war, so his declaration on Tuesday that Kyiv can “WIN all of Ukraine back in its original form” with the right support was a notable break.

But hours later, Secretary of State Marco Rubio told the U.N. Security Council that the war would end at a negotiating table, not the battlefield — a conventional restatement of existing U.S. policy that suggested that Trump’s new approach was not being translated into practical action.

The senior White House official said that everything the president does is “from the lens of ‘How can we make a deal?’”
Rule 1 of Negotiation Tactics - don’t tell the other side your Negotiation Tactics…

TheDaddy 25-09-2025 09:35
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36203372)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...tration-putin/



Rule 1 of Negotiation Tactics - don’t tell the other side your Negotiation Tactics…
Art of the deal...

Paul 25-09-2025 12:34
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36203372)
Rule 1 of Negotiation Tactics - don’t tell the other side your Negotiation Tactics…
I dont think Trump has any tactics, other than "open mouth, spew out nonsense".

Hugh 25-09-2025 16:27
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
https://wapo.st/4nidndf

Quote:
Hegseth orders rare, urgent meeting of hundreds of generals, admirals

The Pentagon has summoned military officials from around the world for a gathering in Virginia. Even top generals and their staffs don’t know the reason for the meeting.

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has ordered hundreds of the U.S. military’s generals and admirals to gather on short notice — and without a stated reason — at a Marine Corps base in Virginia next week, sowing confusion and alarm after the Trump administration’s firing of numerous senior leaders this year.

The highly unusual directive was sent to virtually all of the military’s top commanders worldwide, according to more than a dozen people familiar with the matter. The directive was issued earlier this week, as a government shutdown looms, and months after Hegseth’s team at the Pentagon announced plans to undertake a sweeping consolidation of top military commands.

In a statement Thursday, Pentagon spokesman Sean Parnell affirmed that Hegseth “will be addressing his senior military leaders early next week,” but he offered no additional details. Parnell, a senior adviser to the defense secretary, voiced no concerns about The Washington Post reporting on the meeting, scheduled for Tuesday in Quantico, Virginia.

There are about 800 generals and admirals spread across the United States and dozens of other countries and time zones. Hegseth’s order, people familiar with the matter said, applies to all senior officers with the rank of brigadier general or above, or their Navy equivalent, serving in command positions and their top enlisted advisers. Typically, these officers each oversee hundreds or thousands of rank-and-file troops.

Top commanders in conflict zones and senior military leaders stationed throughout Europe, the Middle East and the Asia-Pacific region are among those expected to attend Hegseth’s meeting, said people familiar with the matter, who spoke on the condition of anonymity as they were not authorized to publicly discuss the issue. The order does not apply to top military officers who hold staff positions.

None of the people who spoke with The Post could recall a defense secretary ever ordering so many of the military’s generals and admirals to assemble like this. Several said it raised security concerns.
Outstanding OpSec…

Carth 25-09-2025 17:07
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Nice juicy target for anyone with the means to . . . nah, nobody would . . would they?

Hugh 29-09-2025 17:53
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
https://www.reuters.com/business/med...ry-2025-09-29/

Quote:
Trump says US to impose 100% tariff on movies made outside the country

President Donald Trump said on Monday he would impose a 100% tariff on all films produced overseas that are then sent into the U.S., repeating a threat made in May that would upend Hollywood's global business model.

The step signals Trump's willingness to extend protectionist trade policies into cultural industries, raising uncertainty for studios that depend heavily on cross-border co-productions and international box-office revenue…

… The U.S. film industry recorded a $15.3 billion trade surplus in 2023, backed by $22.6 billion in exports to international markets, according to the Motion Picture Association.

Studio executives told Reuters earlier this year that they were "flummoxed" by how a movie tariff might be enforced, given that modern films often use production, financing, post-production and visual effects spread across multiple countries.

Hollywood has increasingly relied on overseas production hubs such as Canada, the UK and Australia, where tax incentives have attracted big-budget shoots for films ranging from superhero blockbusters to streaming dramas.

At the same time, co-productions with foreign studios have become more common, particularly in Asia and Europe, where local partners provide financing, access to markets, and distribution networks.

Industry executives also warn that a broad tariff could affect the thousands of U.S. workers employed on overseas shoots, from visual effects artists to production crews, whose work is often coordinated across multiple countries.

Paul 01-10-2025 03:17
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
US Government shutdown imminent.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/clylje0rmp2t
Quote:
US senators have failed to pass a last-minute bill to avert a government shutdown, all but guaranteeing funding will cut off at midnight ET (04.00 GMT)

Chris 01-10-2025 12:08
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
What a way to run a country.

papa smurf 01-10-2025 12:16
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36203779)
What a way to run a country.
Dim-ocracy in action

thenry 01-10-2025 12:18
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Hey! I'm a dim bulb . Nothing wrong with a nation not offended by anything.. keep calm and ignore woke :D

Damien 01-10-2025 12:21
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
This is why you don't let lawyers create countries. Far too smart for their own good.

Maggy 01-10-2025 14:57
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36203308)
I'm starting to get the feeling that he deliberately spouts a load of old bollox because he knows the media will lap it up.
Yep!

Anonymouse 04-10-2025 03:23
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Now the Guardian is asking when generals are going to stand up to Trump - especially as his using military forces for law enforcement is illegal.

Um...well, they should, I agree, but the problem there is that nutter or not, he is the Commander-In-Chief of the US Armed Forces. Disobeying the orders of your superior officer is, by definition, mutiny, and they don't come any more superior than the C-in-C.

Anyone want to bet he wouldn't declare martial law or something and have them shot? Wouldn't put it past him.

Unless they find the same courage Data did in "Redemption", that is.

Not likely, though, not in an army which (as Heinlein pointed out in the '50s!) has insignia distinguishing officers who have led men in combat from officers who haven't.

OTOH, it is their duty to refuse illegal orders. We'll see.

(And once again in case Big Brother is reading, UP YOURS, ECHELON!) :p:

"There's a reason you separate military and the police. One fights the enemies of the state, the other serves and protects the people. When the military becomes both, then the enemies of the state tend to become the people."

- Commander William Adama
Battlestar Galactica 2003

Is it me, or is that the way the world's going?

Paul 04-10-2025 03:34
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
I thought he was using the National Guard ?
They are state based militias, not quite the same as the main US military.

Hugh 04-10-2025 08:26
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36204060)
I thought he was using the National Guard ?
They are state based militias, not quite the same as the main US military.
Except in DC, only the State Governors can call in the National Guard.

Trump also sent 700 Marines into California, and the Posse Comitatus Act prohibits the military from engaging in domestic law enforcement without permission from Congress.

thenry 07-10-2025 17:38
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Trump's pushing Mark Carney on the 51st state but Carney firmly said no so they are competing over investment which wouldn't be the case if Canada were the cherished 51 state.

1andrew1 07-10-2025 20:11
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36204275)
Trump's pushing Mark Carney on the 51st state but Carney firmly said no so they are competing over investment which wouldn't be the case if Canada were the cherished 51 state.
The Canadian people don't want it to happen so this rather whacky idea is dead in the water. It's just a matter of years before Trump is no longer President, and things get back to a more normal status. Hopefully, he'll have brought peace to the Middle East and Europe before he goes.

thenry 07-10-2025 20:13
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
What is normal?

1andrew1 07-10-2025 20:23
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36204313)
What is normal?
Not staking claim to Canada and Greenland and having trade deals that alter by the minute.

Mr K 07-10-2025 20:27
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36204313)
What is normal?
Don't think we'll ever get back normal whilst the muggles keep falling for populists like Trump/Farage/Boris. Then complain that everything is t*ts up, and vote for the next populist. Rinse, repeat, the world is screwed.

thenry 07-10-2025 20:28
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Life changes in any moment and anybody would like to be somewhere else. It's normal behaviour.

I think you mean somebody barking orders. I'm still soo very happy that America did not force Harris on the world :nutter:

Mr K 07-10-2025 20:36
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36204318)
Life changes in any moment and anybody would like to be somewhere else. It's normal behaviour.

I think you mean somebody barking orders. I'm still soo very happy that America did not force Harris on the world :nutter:
Why ? How has the US election affected Crawley/yourself?

Pierre 07-10-2025 20:40
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36204317)
Don't think we'll ever get back normal whilst the muggles keep falling for populists like Trump/Farage/Boris. Then complain that everything is t*ts up, and vote for the next populist. Rinse, repeat, the world is screwed.
You left Kier out of that list, although he clearly belongs on it.

Damien 07-10-2025 20:43
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36204322)
You left Kier out of that list, although he clearly belongs on it.
Starmer isn't a populist, though. He's much more of an (ineffective) technocrat. Corbyn was a populist.

thenry 07-10-2025 20:44
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36204320)
Why ? How has the US election affected Crawley/yourself?
I like world peace. Figureheads that bark orders like they themselves are perfect is beyond acceptable behaviour. It's not peaceful. It's very disturbing.

Bullshit rhetoric. Everybody is bad except me. Piss off! Thank God she's not president!!!

papa smurf 07-10-2025 20:47
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36204323)
Starmer isn't a populist, though. He's much more of an (ineffective) technocrat. Corbyn was a populist.
He's an un populist ,in fact cat shit's more popular than he is

Damien 07-10-2025 20:48
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Not popular, nor a populist.

Pierre 07-10-2025 21:10
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36204323)
Starmer isn't a populist, though. He's much more of an (ineffective) technocrat. Corbyn was a populist.
He won a massive majority…makes him populist against the established Tories.

Quote:
a person, especially a politician, who strives to appeal to ordinary people who feel that their concerns are disregarded by established elite groups.

The point I’m making is that it is a useless term.

The whole point about politics is to be popular.

Damien 07-10-2025 21:30
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36204329)
He won a massive majority…makes him populist against the established Tories.

The point I’m making is that it is a useless term.

The whole point about politics is to be popular.
Yes, but I think there is a difference between being popular and being a populist. A populist is someone whose politics is about defining themselves as on the side of the people against the elites. The elites change depending on which side you're on. Corbyn would define them as CEOs and the wealthy more than Farage would, for example, but it's the elites that are the problem.

Not every politician frames politics that way. Both main parties had a lot of people who were more technocratic and saw politics as an act of administration rather than taking on entrenched elites. Sunak, May and even Cameron, to an exten,t wouldn't be called populists.

Hugh 07-10-2025 21:39
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36204324)
I like world peace. Figureheads that bark orders like they themselves are perfect is beyond acceptable behaviour. It's not peaceful. It's very disturbing.

Bullshit rhetoric. Everybody is bad except me. Piss off! Thank God she's not president!!!
Phew! Lucky Trump isn’t like that, what with him being so self-effacing and humble, rarely being aggressive or derogatory to others…

thenry 07-10-2025 21:50
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
It's his personal opinion :rolleyes:

Hugh 07-10-2025 21:59
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36204334)
It's his personal opinion :rolleyes:
So Harris was barking orders, Trump’s just stating an opinion (when he issues over 209 executive orders, 52 memoranda, and 91 proclamations, and orders the National Guard into US cities…), and he is being humble when he says “I’m really good at this stuff" and "I’ve been right about everything.”/

OK…

jem 07-10-2025 22:02
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36204336)
S
Snip...
and he is being humble when he says “I’m really good at this stuff" and "I’ve been right about everything.”/

OK…
Hugh, I get the feeling you are not a fan ;)

thenry 07-10-2025 22:16
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36204336)
So Harris was barking orders, Trump’s just stating an opinion (when he issues over 209 executive orders, 52 memoranda, and 91 proclamations, and orders the National Guard into US cities…), and he is being humble when he says “I’m really good at this stuff" and "I’ve been right about everything.”/

OK…
Harris leadership would have been to destabilise everything all the while look to be the perfect one. You could argue both have those qualities.

Outcast Russia, destabilise peace in the middle east, Asia need telling how to live.. south America destabilised...

Back to my point. I don't need someone that lives in a totally different country how I should live my life thanks.

Would Harris address homeland issues or pick on other countries.

Stephen 08-10-2025 09:08
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Sorry, but everything you claim Harris would have done is exactly what Trump has done.

Harris would certainly not have dismantled the government, stripped out many government agencies and all the very divisive things the orange potato has done.

thenry 08-10-2025 09:17
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
That's fine if Trump wants to turn the gun on himself. Don't point it at me you have no rights on my life.

Hugh 08-10-2025 10:04
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36204356)
That's fine if Trump wants to turn the gun on himself. Don't point it at me you have no rights on my life.
No one is pointing a gun when we show that your statements are not congruent with actuality…

thenry 08-10-2025 10:18
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Ok so Harris wouldn't have taken action on internal affairs like that of international affairs. How can you berate others while seeing your own country delve to new lows.

Hugh 08-10-2025 11:03
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36204364)
Ok so Harris wouldn't have taken action on internal affairs like that of international affairs. How can you berate others while seeing your own country delve to new lows.
Gish-galloping at it’s finest…

1andrew1 08-10-2025 11:46
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36204339)
Outcast Russia
Putin did that when he invaded Ukraine, poisoned people in Salisbury etc. That's not something to be blamed on any other country.

Paul 08-10-2025 15:17
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36204356)
That's fine if Trump wants to turn the gun on himself. Don't point it at me you have no rights on my life.
I think you need to take a break.

1andrew1 09-10-2025 12:28
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Will be interesting to see how this plays out. Trump should wait till 2026 if the prize is awarded for work the year before.
Quote:
Nobody has campaigned for a Nobel Peace Prize quite like Donald Trump.

The US president has been brazen and unrelenting in his quest for one of the world’s most prestigious honours, saying it would be a “big insult” were he not to receive it.

But experts are sceptical about the unprecedented lobbying campaign bearing fruit when the Norwegian Nobel Committee awards it on Friday. The reasons range from Trump’s own behaviour at home and abroad to the fact that the prize is meant to honour actions in 2024 — when he was elected but not yet in office.

“Putting pressure on the committee, going on talking about ‘I need the prize, I’m the worthy candidate’ — it’s not a very peaceful approach,” said Nina Græger, director of the Peace Research Institute Oslo.
https://archive.ph/sZloF

Sephiroth 09-10-2025 14:04
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
It's a very interesting situation on several fronts.

First, there's Trump the person. Certainly on past history, there is something of a pig in his nature and many would say that this is a sticky attribute.

Second, he very brazenly heads a powerful country and uses that persona to get his way (bully others say) into submission. See his tariff policies for detail where he is aware of the double edge to that weapon, but it frightens other xcountries and he likes that. Vaseline and bend come to mind.

Third, he loves himself (this is different from being a pig). But he knows that he is a pig and wants to prove that there is a better side to him. Hence is (sometimes misconceived) monologues full of self-praise.

In the above light, he has used his attributes to bring Israel to some sort of heel, no doubt threatening them with a weapons embargo. 9/11 won't be too far from his mind in that context and so Israel zapping Hamas pleases him. He is also pig enough to brush aside (pretending not to) the civilian suffering in Gaza in pursuit of his real estate ambitions for Gaza. If he can see that through, in the long run, Gaza might do very well.

A peace prize is almost inevitable!

Damien 09-10-2025 14:10
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
If it helps force peace in Gaza, give it to him! But maybe wait a bit so he maintains his interest. They should drop a hint tomorrow, saying they're watching Trump's actions in Gaza with encouragement and are interested to see how the next year or so develops.

Pierre 09-10-2025 17:10
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
If Obama got one whilst continuing to prosecute two wars, then I think Trump should be ok.


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