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ozsat 14-08-2018 05:31

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My TiVo and V6 don't stretch the picture :confused:
Aspect Correction set to 'Panel' for a widescreen tv - and correct left/right borders for 4:3 programming.

Stephen 14-08-2018 06:47

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Most HD channels showing older 4:3 content show it as is, with black bars either side as part of the broadcast.

SD channels don't do this so most Tv's set to auto or 16:9 wo hold default to zooming in.

spiderplant 14-08-2018 08:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 35959388)
My TiVo and V6 don't stretch the picture :confused:
Aspect Correction set to 'Panel' for a widescreen tv - and correct left/right borders for 4:3 programming.

You have set yours correctly. But 'Panel' isn't the default.

ozsat 14-08-2018 13:38

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Bad VM
Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35959401)
You have set yours correctly. But 'Panel' isn't the default.


Media Boy UK 15-08-2018 16:45

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KeithLeonard has today posted on Virgin Media Forum that UKTV has told him:

Quote:

Just been advised by UKTV, that there is no definite date for GOLD HD to appear on Virgin but it should be sometime this month.
https://community.virginmedia.com/t5...t/true#M169241

GOLD HD was rumour as set to launch today on Virgin Media.

SonicMaster 15-08-2018 20:03

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Channel Guide now updated:

Desktop:
http://www.virginmedia.com/content/d...Aug2018_06.pdf
Mobile:
http://www.virginmedia.com/content/d...Aug2018_06.pdf

Hope they sort out the daft placement of HISTORY HD (move to 272) and Crime + Investigation (move to 223).

RichardCoulter 15-08-2018 21:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35959721)
KeithLeonard has today posted on Virgin Media Forum that UKTV has told him:



https://community.virginmedia.com/t5...t/true#M169241

GOLD HD was rumour as set to launch today on Virgin Media.

I imagine that VM will want/need to make some technical changes first, which will take time. They will want to reconfigure their network so as not to be running on full capacity and will need to install a line feed. Usually, the SD channels are taken from satellite, with the HD feeds being line fed for extra quality.

Media Boy UK 15-08-2018 21:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35959834)
I imagine that VM will want/need to make some technical changes first, which will take time. They will want to reconfigure their network so as not to be running on full capacity and will need to install a line feed. Usually, the SD channels are taken from satellite, with the HD feeds being line fed for extra quality.

Look like all channels on TSid 36 is moving soon.

It was broadcasting up until Friday.

True Entertainment.
Your TV.
Lifetime.
Discovery Turbo.
Lifetime +1.
Love Nature.
Together.
More 4 +1.

Note they was all on UKTV Channel numbers.

Only ZooMoo HD is broadcasting on the stream right now on EPG Channel 295 letting viewers know that ZooMoo has moved to channel 739.

Also Virgin need to move Premier Sports 2 to an new stream as it an only channel broadcasting on TSid 37.

We have been using http://www.digitalbitrate.com/dtv.ph...ve=209&lang=en for this post.

Stephen 16-08-2018 07:18

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This is for discussing channels coming soon to VM
There is a thread to talk about price rises on VM here

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...3706653&page=4

OLD BOY 16-08-2018 07:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35959847)
Look like all channels on TSid 36 is moving soon.

It was broadcasting up until Friday.

True Entertainment.
Your TV.
Lifetime.
Discovery Turbo.
Lifetime +1.
Love Nature.
Together.
More 4 +1.

Note they was all on UKTV Channel numbers.

Only ZooMoo HD is broadcasting on the stream right now on EPG Channel 295 letting viewers know that ZooMoo has moved to channel 739.

Also Virgin need to move Premier Sports 2 to an new stream as it an only channel broadcasting on TSid 37.

We have been using http://www.digitalbitrate.com/dtv.ph...ve=209&lang=en for this post.

What is the significance of these TSid channel moves for VM viewers, MB?

Stephen 16-08-2018 07:33

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Nothing I'd imagine. Background stuff that won't affect channel numbers or anything a customer would care about.

jfman 16-08-2018 08:09

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Premier Sports 2 is broadcasting twice in my area.

Media Boy UK 16-08-2018 10:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35959887)
What is the significance of these TSid channel moves for VM viewers, MB?

Some viewers think Virgin Media have no room to launch any new channels but they have two TSid channels free after the UKTV Channels carry on. They can use one of the two TSid Stream for GOLD HD if Virgin Media wanted to.

Stephen 16-08-2018 10:47

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Its not really as simple as that though.

Media Boy UK 16-08-2018 10:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35959919)
Its not really as simple as that though.

Virgin may cant even remove them anyway until after November 12th due to the "You have three months to watch your shows your have tape on Your TV.".

You did have three months for all the UKTV shows when they was axe on July 22nd.

Anyhow as I posted for years I do not work for Virgin Media so I was just posting my own views.

jfman 16-08-2018 10:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35959919)
Its not really as simple as that though.

Now now, you can’t possibly imply that an HFC network delivering both broadband and tv is more complex than the understanding of “sources”.

Hugh 16-08-2018 10:59

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Play nicely...

fox35 16-08-2018 16:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35959910)
Some viewers think Virgin Media have no room to launch any new channels but they have two TSid channels free after the UKTV Channels carry on. They can use one of the two TSid Stream for GOLD HD if Virgin Media wanted to.

Do we really NEED any more "new" channels though with the same mind dumbing reality nonsense and the amount of repeats of NCIS on half a dozen different channels?
Surely VM should now be looking to invest in the future and boost its high quality streaming/on-demand content, with both 3rd party apps and its own exclusive rights offerings.
Let Sky lead the way with their 500 channels of repeats and drivel, and VM be the UK "go to" main provider option for streaming and on-demand content to compliment its Netflix offering.
Surely this is the future?

SonicMaster 16-08-2018 17:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fox35 (Post 35959985)
Do we really NEED any more "new" channels though with the same mind dumbing reality nonsense and the amount of repeats of NCIS on half a dozen different channels?
Surely VM should now be looking to invest in the future and boost its high quality streaming/on-demand content, with both 3rd party apps and its own exclusive rights offerings.
Let Sky lead the way with their 500 channels of repeats and drivel, and VM be the UK "go to" main provider option for streaming and on-demand content to compliment its Netflix offering.
Surely this is the future?

I agree, with the latest new additions, Virgin Media now has every significant TV channel available in the UK except for MTV Classic, Sky Atlantic and AMC.

dodgem22 16-08-2018 20:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35959922)
Virgin may cant even remove them anyway until after November 12th due to the "You have three months to watch your shows your have tape on Your TV.".

You did have three months for all the UKTV shows when they was axe on July 22nd.

Anyhow as I posted for years I do not work for Virgin Media so I was just posting my own views.

Im a little confused what cant they remove until after November 12th? As you have three months to........?

jfman 16-08-2018 21:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dodgem22 (Post 35960007)
Im a little confused what cant they remove until after November 12th? As you have three months to........?

The theory being because when channels leave recordings expire after 3 months.

That ignores (but that’s never stopped anyone speculating before) the fact nobody knows how Virgin set expiration dates on recordings, and the fact the channels haven’t genuinely left.

When a channel moves EPG number the recordings aren’t lost. As far as my V6 goes the extra channels pointed to the same stream as the original (verified by the diagnostics menu while recording).

Richc1977 16-08-2018 22:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 35959997)
I agree, with the latest new additions, Virgin Media now has every significant TV channel available in the UK except for MTV Classic, Sky Atlantic and AMC.

and Eleven Sports 1 & 2

Mad Max 16-08-2018 22:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fox35 (Post 35959985)
Do we really NEED any more "new" channels though with the same mind dumbing reality nonsense and the amount of repeats of NCIS on half a dozen different channels?
Surely VM should now be looking to invest in the future and boost its high quality streaming/on-demand content, with both 3rd party apps and its own exclusive rights offerings.
Let Sky lead the way with their 500 channels of repeats and drivel, and VM be the UK "go to" main provider option for streaming and on-demand content to compliment its Netflix offering.
Surely this is the future?


Totally agree with you on that comment, way too many ppl willing to watch utter dross.

RichardCoulter 16-08-2018 23:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35959910)
Some viewers think Virgin Media have no room to launch any new channels but they have two TSid channels free after the UKTV Channels carry on. They can use one of the two TSid Stream for GOLD HD if Virgin Media wanted to.

I only know of space left for one HD channel on TSID 30, where is the other one :confused:

VM will have to reconfigure their network before too long for when (If?) Freesports HD starts. As SP said, the old Pace SD boxes should be out of service in a couple of weeks.

This will allow them to complete the change to 256-QAM from 64-QAM on the streams used for VM download services, which will free up more space on the system.

jfman 16-08-2018 23:36

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It’s been pointed out that one TSID only contains Premier Sports 2, which is being duplicated elsewhere. Another holds only a placeholder for ZooMoo HD moving. Plenty of space, as you have been informed now on numerous occasions.

RichardCoulter 16-08-2018 23:59

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No, at present there isn't, as you've been told on plenty of occasions.

This must be getting really boring for everyone on here now. Shall we see if SP can let us know once and for all (though I respect the fact that he may not be able to discuss such matters for reasons of commercial confidentiality).

jfman 17-08-2018 02:18

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Media Boy has someone who can see the same data I can in my area. I fail to see why you persist with this nonsense, it’s not doing you any favours reputationally on this forum.

Anyone with a DVB-C card (or compatible TV) can confirm my findings on the Knowsley platform. They will also find an off EPG version of Premier Sports 2 broadcasting unencrypted.

jfman 17-08-2018 07:42

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People can confirm if their area has Premier Sports 2 on the same frequency as 4Music by setting recordings and entering the diagnostic menu.

In my area it isn’t, it’s on it’s own. The off EPG version is on the same frequency as ITV3 (standard definition).

So I’d be grateful for people to record 3 programmes at the same time from these channels and report back the frequency in the diagnostic menu of their TiVo or V6. You can tell which is which because the EPG number is in the list below the tuner.

If all three are on different frequencies scan the one ITV3 is on with a DVB-C compatible TV. You will find a further Premier Sports 2.

OLD BOY 17-08-2018 09:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35959919)
Its not really as simple as that though.

No, it's not, it's a complete red herring because the people posting this stuff completely fail to take into account what VM are planning to do. The intention of VM to give us some UHD channels later this year totally undermines the argument being put forward that Virgin is running out of capacity.

spiderplant 17-08-2018 10:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35960032)
Shall we see if SP can let us know once and for all

I already have done.

vincerooney 17-08-2018 12:09

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Morning all- happy friday to us all and apologies to the weekend workers out there. This eleven sports is awful Lots of games on tonight and you can watch some of them on facebook. What? Why do i want to watch football on my computer or tablet.

They claim to be speaking to VM but i doubt any deal will be done and it wont be coming soon

denphone 17-08-2018 12:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35960089)
Morning all- happy friday to us all and apologies to the weekend workers out there. This eleven sports is awful Lots of games on tonight and you can watch some of them on facebook. What? Why do i want to watch football on my computer or tablet.

They claim to be speaking to VM but i doubt any deal will be done and it wont be coming soon

Afternoon Vince as personally l would be surprised if any deal is forthcoming now but alas l do have a track record of being more wrong then l am right.

Itshim 17-08-2018 12:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35960089)
Morning all- happy friday to us all and apologies to the weekend workers out there. This eleven sports is awful Lots of games on tonight and you can watch some of them on facebook. What? Why do i want to watch football on my computer or tablet.

They claim to be speaking to VM but i doubt any deal will be done and it wont be coming soon

Will it allow it to be sent to a smart TV. As you can with Netflix etc ?

RichardCoulter 17-08-2018 14:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35960074)
I already have done.

Under the current configuration, at this moment in time, how many more HD channels can VM fit onto the system?

I am aware that VM will be able to create more space by reconfiguring the system going forward, so this doesn't mean that this figure is it forevermore.

Also, will TSID 36 & 37 be brought back into use for HD (or SD) channels? If so, where will VM place any test channels that are required?

---------- Post added at 14:25 ---------- Previous post was at 14:19 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35960071)
No, it's not, it's a complete red herring because the people posting this stuff completely fail to take into account what VM are planning to do. The intention of VM to give us some UHD channels later this year totally undermines the argument being put forward that Virgin is running out of capacity.

The capacity available next year will not necessarily be the same amount of capacity available right now, even with exactly the same infrastructure. In fact, it's unlikely to be so because VM can do various things to increase it.

I am talking about the situation today as it stands

jfman 17-08-2018 16:00

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Richard would you mind reporting the frequencies for Premier Sports 2, 4Music and ITV3 (SD) by setting up recordings and accessing the diagnostic menu of your set top box?

jfman 18-08-2018 08:37

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In addition to the plentiful amount of space already identified by forum members the BT Sport 4K frequency has space for three HD channels.

alwaysabear 18-08-2018 11:52

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I watched Eleven sports on facebook last night as I have a family connection to Valladolid, on average there was only just over 300 people watching during the whole game.
I cannot see the suites at La Liga being very impressed.

denphone 18-08-2018 12:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35960202)
I watched Eleven sports on facebook last night as I have a family connection to Valladolid, on average there was only just over 300 people watching during the whole game.
I cannot see the suites at La Liga being very impressed.

No surprise as whoever made that decision quite clearly has not got a clue.

vincerooney 18-08-2018 16:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35960203)
No surprise as whoever made that decision quite clearly has not got a clue.

Its really going to damage the brand of la liga in the UK. La liga was a really popular league here. Kids buying shirts with Messi on the back. People randomly supporting a spanish team to watch over the weekend like sevilla or villareal.

Where can people really watch these games now? Most people have sky sports over BT Sports. Where will the kids watch the teams now? Learn about the different clubs and the different players? Be motivated to take a game in on a spanish holiday. Buy merchandise etc.

Basically la liga have destroyed their brand awareness with the younger generation which will have a noticeable impact in the next few years. Theyve gone for quick money from eleven sports rather than the smaller amount which in turn would make them more money with brand awareness in the longer run.

It was a horrible decision and one i hope really bites them in the coming years

jfman 18-08-2018 17:32

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http://www.digitalbitrate.com/dtv.ph...&sec=0&lang=en

Screen grab of the duplicate Premier Sports 2.

cityfan247 18-08-2018 17:51

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Sports is big business and they are run by people who only think of how much money they can generate. They dont give a toss about the fans. We are simply punters to them ..to be milked until we are dry.

I am sure La Liga got great exposure through Sky Sports. (Would be even greater on a free to air channel of course!). But no they sign the rights over to a small player like Eleven Sports purely down to dosh. They dont care if you cant watch it in HD on your big screen tv. Its so short sighted.

The NHL did the same things few years ago when it signed over the rights to Premier Sports. Cut it's exposure overnight but i dont think they were bothered.
The thing is as so few people in the UK can watch (ok I accept with the arrival of FreeSports there is limited access to more people now)

The NFL, NBA and even MLB are gaining popularity in the UK with games being scheduled over here. BT and Sky show plenty of games. The NHL is very much the poor relation these days. The NHL big wigs have only themselves to blame.

I subscribe to MLB. TV (which is terrific btw) I can watch games in HD quality on my TV. But this season each week they show a game exclusively on Facebook. The game is blacked out on MLB.Tv so you can only watch it on your phone or tablet unless you have a device that lets you stream it on telly.

Yes the facebook coverage is free and opens coverage up to more people

Again no thought for the fans.

alwaysabear 18-08-2018 18:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cityfan247 (Post 35960261)
Sports is big business and they are run by people who only think of how much money they can generate. They dont give a toss about the fans. We are simply punters to them ..to be milked until we are dry.

I am sure La Liga got great exposure through Sky Sports. (Would be even greater on a free to air channel of course!). But no they sign the rights over to a small player like Eleven Sports purely down to dosh. They dont care if you cant watch it in HD on your big screen tv. Its so short sighted.

The NHL did the same things few years ago when it signed over the rights to Premier Sports. Cut it's exposure overnight but i dont think they were bothered.
The thing is as so few people in the UK can watch (ok I accept with the arrival of FreeSports there is limited access to more people now)

The NFL, NBA and even MLB are gaining popularity in the UK with games being scheduled over here. BT and Sky show plenty of games. The NHL is very much the poor relation these days. The NHL big wigs have only themselves to blame.

I subscribe to MLB. TV (which is terrific btw) I can watch games in HD quality on my TV. But this season each week they show a game exclusively on Facebook. The game is blacked out on MLB.Tv so you can only watch it on your phone or tablet unless you have a device that lets you stream it on telly.

Yes the facebook coverage is free and opens coverage up to more people

Again no thought for the fans.

I used to love watching Hockey night in Canada with Don Cherry on ESPN then as you say the idiot at the top the NHL ruined everything.
I am a big fan of American Sports especially NFL and I am concerned as Sky's exclusive rights come to an end next summer. I am just hoping the NFL understand their audience in the UK and don't make the same mistake as La Liga and Serie A.

cityfan247 18-08-2018 19:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35960275)
I used to love watching Hockey night in Canada with Don Cherry on ESPN then as you say the idiot at the top the NHL ruined everything.
I am a big fan of American Sports especially NFL and I am concerned as Sky's exclusive rights come to an end next summer. I am just hoping the NFL understand their audience in the UK and don't make the same mistake as La Liga and Serie A.

I agree Bear. I shall watching what the NFL does closely. They have (with the help of Sky mainly but also other likes of C4 and the BBC) built up the fanbase to the point London hosts 3 or 4 regular season games a season and there is talk that a London team could exist in the future.

The NFL has lead the way for American Sports in the UK which has been followed by the NBA and now even baseball with the Boston Red Sox and New York Yankees coming to London in 2019.

What happens if someone like Eleven Sports wins the rights. If the product is not accessible to that many all that they have worked for would be lost.

The days of sports on free to air channels is ever dwindling as £££££ rules. Simply the way it is.

Monopolies are usually seen as bad things. But since the likes of BT Sports and then Premier Sports and now streaming services like Eleven Sports now rival Sky Sports it has been bad news for consumers. The cost of all these different services is simply prohibitive to most.

Chloé Palmas 18-08-2018 19:09

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I watched a few of the NFL games in London....a franchise just isn't viable for all the reasons that people have mentioned over the years. It just can't happen.

I think that it is going the other way btw...the days of sports costing a premium rate are dwindling and more and more is available in unique setting format. (Apps etc).

vincerooney 18-08-2018 19:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chloé Palmas (Post 35960290)
I watched a few of the NFL games in London....a franchise just isn't viable for all the reasons that people have mentioned over the years. It just can't happen.

I think that it is going the other way btw...the days of sports costing a premium rate are dwindling and more and more is available in unique setting format. (Apps etc).

I'd love to hear your reasons why but its probably not on topic! I thought London would be a good place for a team purely to tap into the European market. The only problem would be the airplane journey times but apparently a way around it would be for the london based team to play two home games in a row and the away time having a bye the following week.

But you're right about the cost of sports sky rocketing. I remember then sky sports was the place to watch EVERYTHING and then Ofcom said it was bad for the customer so forced us all to pay for Setanta etc. One of the most stupidest decisions ever.

I think we're heading to a change though. The 3pm tv ban is likely to be axed soon as money talks. A season ticket to watch your club on tv is likely to launch and then its anyone's guess what happens but i'd imagine it'll become a case of "the richer teams get richer" and the premier league ceases to offer any competition

RichardCoulter 18-08-2018 19:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35960202)
I watched Eleven sports on facebook last night as I have a family connection to Valladolid, on average there was only just over 300 people watching during the whole game.
I cannot see the suites at La Liga being very impressed.

There were a lot of complaints about the quality of their first broadcast too, which won't have helped them.

As long as they are getting the money from the highest bidder for the rights, I doubt that they would care. Sport in general seems to be all about the money today, with no consideration for the fans.

Chloé Palmas 18-08-2018 19:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vincerooney
I'd love to hear your reasons why but its probably not on topic! I thought London would be a good place for a team purely to tap into the European market. The only problem would be the airplane journey times but apparently a way around it would be for the london based team to play two home games in a row and the away time having a bye the following week.

But you're right about the cost of sports sky rocketing. I remember then sky sports was the place to watch EVERYTHING and then Ofcom said it was bad for the customer so forced us all to pay for Setanta etc. One of the most stupidest decisions ever.

I think we're heading to a change though. The 3pm tv ban is likely to be axed soon as money talks. A season ticket to watch your club on tv is likely to launch and then its anyone's guess what happens but i'd imagine it'll become a case of "the richer teams get richer" and the premier league ceases to offer any competition


Oh Setanta sports....what a nightmare.

In regards to the London franchise I am not sure but we may be able to start another thread on it / not sure.

The franchises will have to cave on content though - TV's now are all app enabled so it is so easy to get something like the ESPN player app and watch every CF game that you want instead of using BT sport - it costs round the same anyway.

It is just that now BT's stupidity on programing will go, the issues of something running over is no longer an issue and you can also watch on the go / on a hand held device etc.

jfman 19-08-2018 00:17

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Can we possibly keep this on topic? I wouldn't like my facts about the Virgin HFC network to get lost in a discussion about Spanish football which, given the distribution of Sky Sports subscribers between Sky/Virgin, will affect a very tiny number of people likely to read the thread.

RichardCoulter 19-08-2018 02:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35960301)
I'd love to hear your reasons why but its probably not on topic! I thought London would be a good place for a team purely to tap into the European market. The only problem would be the airplane journey times but apparently a way around it would be for the london based team to play two home games in a row and the away time having a bye the following week.

But you're right about the cost of sports sky rocketing. I remember then sky sports was the place to watch EVERYTHING and then Ofcom said it was bad for the customer so forced us all to pay for Setanta etc. One of the most stupidest decisions ever.

I think we're heading to a change though. The 3pm tv ban is likely to be axed soon as money talks. A season ticket to watch your club on tv is likely to launch and then its anyone's guess what happens but i'd imagine it'll become a case of "the richer teams get richer" and the premier league ceases to offer any competition

And I can remember when Sky Sports was free! It was then on offer for £2.99 a month for six months I think, before going up to £5.99.

This was the same price for pubs too in those days...

jfman 19-08-2018 02:41

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And none of this has anything to do with what may/may not be coming soon to Virgin Media.

Maggy 19-08-2018 08:40

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Getting a tad fed up with asking that we stick to the topic of Coming Soon to Virgin TV. Past history hardly fits future issues.

jfman 19-08-2018 14:16

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http://digitalbitrate.com/dtv.php?li...ng=en&mux=C065

TSID 36 is running quite light, maxing at 30 Mb/sec out of a capacity of 51 in the DVB spec. Easily get a couple of HD channels in there, over and above the space already identified.

Raider999 19-08-2018 21:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dodgem22 (Post 35960007)
Im a little confused what cant they remove until after November 12th? As you have three months to........?


I believe it is a reference to recordings already on the box, which you no longer have a sub for - is this actually the case? I would like to know as I don't want to be left with Premier Sports recordings I cannot watch

spiderplant 19-08-2018 22:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 35960566)
I believe it is a reference to recordings already on the box, which you no longer have a sub for - is this actually the case? I would like to know as I don't want to be left with Premier Sports recordings I cannot watch

You'll be able to watch Premier Sports recordings indefinitely.

For channels that have been removed from the VM network, recordings remain accessible for three months.

It is only recordings from the Sky-owned channels that you can't watch after unsubscribing.

jfman 19-08-2018 23:31

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 
http://digitalbitrate.com/dtv.php?mu...&sec=0&lang=en

The EPG data for this 4K test says “channel coming soon”. Quite an achievement given the bandwidth constraints. ;)

From the screen grab I’m guessing Love Nature.

mot12 20-08-2018 00:52

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 
Compared to several days ago.

TS streams down from 48 to 47

Total services down from 496 to 473

Something to ponder for those who know all about that. What does it all mean, anything significant?

jfman 20-08-2018 05:14

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mot12 (Post 35960599)
Compared to several days ago.

TS streams down from 48 to 47

Total services down from 496 to 473

Something to ponder for those who know all about that. What does it all mean, anything significant?

That if these trends continue Virgin Media will cease broadcasting television on 19th January 2019.

In practice nothing meaningful can be taken from that without knowing what frequency and what was on it.

Raider999 20-08-2018 12:33

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35960582)
You'll be able to watch Premier Sports recordings indefinitely.

For channels that have been removed from the VM network, recordings remain accessible for three months.

It is only recordings from the Sky-owned channels that you can't watch after unsubscribing.


Thanks for the reply - that is good news

jfman 20-08-2018 18:39

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 
Nothing new in today’s scan except the HD version of the Box Office (named ITV PPV HD in the NAT, but it has been used for Sky events) has disappeared. Not unusual when the event (Summerslam) isn’t in HD on Virgin. I’m sure it’ll be back for GGG v Canelo.

It’s almost as if Virgin can turn on (and off) broadcasts on their network with impunity. The wonders of technology.

Media Boy UK 20-08-2018 20:45

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 
Disney XD +1 to close on Virgin Media UK on Friday.

Disney XD +1 is on Virgin UK Channel 708 right now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RegularCapital (Post 35960646)
This morning, I've received a notification on my V6 cable box saying that Disney XD +1 will be closing on Friday 24th August.

That notification is also on TiVo Boxes.

At time of posting we do not know if Disney XD +1 is also being axe by Disney on other networks in the UK and Ireland or just Virgin Media UK.

Stephen 21-08-2018 10:25

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35960654)
Disney XD +1 to close on Virgin Media UK on Friday.

Disney XD +1 is on Virgin UK Channel 708 right now.



That notification is also on TiVo Boxes.

At time of posting we do not know if Disney XD +1 is also being axe by Disney on other networks in the UK and Ireland or just Virgin Media UK.

^^
Thats not really coming soon lol that's gone soon.

DJ-SWITCH 21-08-2018 13:54

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35960654)
Disney XD +1 to close on Virgin Media UK on Friday.

Disney XD +1 is on Virgin UK Channel 708 right now.



That notification is also on TiVo Boxes.

At time of posting we do not know if Disney XD +1 is also being axe by Disney on other networks in the UK and Ireland or just Virgin Media UK.


looks like its just virgin my sky Q box is still showing after the 24th up till tueday the 28th

Richc1977 22-08-2018 10:03

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 
US Open Tennis starts Monday, any update on Amazon Prime coming to Virgin Media?

1andrew1 22-08-2018 10:14

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 
Per sports thread, IView EFL PPV service on its way to VM. https://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2018...k-efl-matches/

denphone 22-08-2018 10:17

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Richc1977 (Post 35960825)
US Open Tennis starts Monday, any update on Amazon Prime coming to Virgin Media?

None.

BenMcr 22-08-2018 10:29

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35960827)
Per sports thread, IView EFL PPV service on its way to VM. https://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2018...k-efl-matches/

I don't think that's right.

The EFL matches are available on Sky Sports on VM:
https://www.virginmedia.com/corporat...ed-button.html

iFollow isn't on VM but is a separate streaming service

Rob King 22-08-2018 13:54

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35960830)
I don't think that's right.
I thought sky only signed up to show so many I wonder if this will happen for premiership games come on virgin media get you finger out and bid for some
The EFL matches are available on Sky Sports on VM:
https://www.virginmedia.com/corporat...ed-button.html

iFollow isn't on VM but is a separate streaming service


1andrew1 22-08-2018 14:20

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35960830)
I don't think that's right.

The EFL matches are available on Sky Sports on VM:
https://www.virginmedia.com/corporat...ed-button.html

iFollow isn't on VM but is a separate streaming service

The article says iFollow from the EFL will be on VM but they may have got confused. The Sky Sports offering is a separate offering of fewer matches and apparently uses fewer cameras.

jfman 22-08-2018 16:15

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 
If you read the article carefully at no point does it say that service will be on VM.

The games will through Sky.

The EFL website states “Sky Sports will have the right to stream the same Championship fixtures to subscribers across their interactive and digital services.”

1andrew1 22-08-2018 17:07

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 35960891)
If you read the article carefully at no point does it say that service will be on VM.

The games will through Sky.

The EFL website states “Sky Sports will have the right to stream the same Championship fixtures to subscribers across their interactive and digital services.”

The BroadbandTVNews article does say that iFollow will be on VM.

jfman 22-08-2018 17:31

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35960903)
The BroadbandTVNews article does say that iFollow will be on VM.

It doesn’t. I’m not being deliberately a argumentative but the paragraph:

“The matches, which are also being carried on Sky Sports Red Button service and Virgin Media, are being offered by iFollow at a cost of £10 per match.”

The games are on Sky and Virgin Media, but it doesn’t say the delivery method is via iFollow.

ozsat 22-08-2018 17:36

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 
Have to agree with jfman - it doesn't say that iFollow will be on VM.

The matches are on Sky Sports Red Button, VirginMedia and iFollow. Three different services.

1andrew1 22-08-2018 18:22

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 35960911)
It doesn’t. I’m not being deliberately a argumentative but the paragraph:

“The matches, which are also being carried on Sky Sports Red Button service and Virgin Media, are being offered by iFollow at a cost of £10 per match.”

The games are on Sky and Virgin Media, but it doesn’t say the delivery method is via iFollow.

Sorry, my mistake, I misread it and thanks for pointing this out. The Guardian has a bit more on the service. https://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2018...k-efl-matches/

jfman 22-08-2018 18:32

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 
No worries, easily done.

I unfortunately spend my life arguing over what things say and what they don’t, so have plenty of practice.

I agree it’s poorly written, and that someone skimming it could easily come away with your interpretation.

johnathome 22-08-2018 20:55

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35960089)
Morning all- happy friday to us all and apologies to the weekend workers out there. This eleven sports is awful Lots of games on tonight and you can watch some of them on facebook. What? Why do i want to watch football on my computer or tablet.

They claim to be speaking to VM but i doubt any deal will be done and it wont be coming soon

There is an app called Facebook Video, if you have a firestick or Android device you can watch it on the TV.

I realise it's jumping through hoops at the minute but until the channel comes....

jfman 25-08-2018 00:47

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 35959894)
Premier Sports 2 is broadcasting twice in my area.

https://forums.digitalspy.com/discus...mment_90980695

jj20x appears to indirectly confirm this to be the case across the network (if you combine it with the information on digitalbitrate).

SonicMaster 25-08-2018 08:41

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35960654)
Disney XD +1 to close on Virgin Media UK on Friday.

Disney XD +1 is on Virgin UK Channel 708 right now.



That notification is also on TiVo Boxes.

At time of posting we do not know if Disney XD +1 is also being axe by Disney on other networks in the UK and Ireland or just Virgin Media UK.

It's still in the EPG here with the listings continuing all the way to 1st September.

Media Boy UK 27-08-2018 19:46

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 
Broadband TV News: Virgin Media Ireland to launch Virgin Media Sport on September 18.

Virgin Media Sport, a new channel for subscribers in the Irish Republic, will launch on September 18.

https://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2018...-september-18/

Mad Max 27-08-2018 19:55

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35961471)
Broadband TV News: Virgin Media Ireland to launch Virgin Media Sport on September 18.

Virgin Media Sport, a new channel for subscribers in the Irish Republic, will launch on September 18.

https://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2018...-september-18/


Not much good to people in the UK!

Media Boy UK 27-08-2018 20:09

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35961472)
Not much good to people in the UK!

Only bit of UK news we have seen over this past bank weekend is UKTV are NOW hoping to launch GOLD HD on Virgin Media UK by Mid September. (Was by September).

Media Boy HQ has now put an "Soon" launch date on GOLD HD.

https://community.virginmedia.com/t5...ht/true/page/2

---------- Post added at 20:09 ---------- Previous post was at 20:03 ----------

MB Views:

With Virgin Media UK no longer broadcasting Disney XD +1 do anyone else think we may get the missing HD Channels of Disney XD, Disney Channel and Disney Jr. in the coming months?

Media Boy UK 29-08-2018 15:33

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 
Late last night when watching WWE Smackdown Live we found that the total channels has gone up by one.

Later we noted that the unknown channel was added to the Virgin UK EPG for up to five mins before being remove again.

As far as we know this unknown was broadcasting on an higher number then channel 318.

---------- Post added at 15:33 ---------- Previous post was at 15:21 ----------

Radio Times: Two more Sky Cinema rebrands Coming next week.

Radio Times has reveal that from Saturday:

-Sky Cinema Action will be known as Sky Cinema Action Men on Virgin UK Channel 407 until (No end date given).

-Sky Cinema SciFi and Horror will be known as Sky Cinema Sky-Fi until October 1st (Working date*)

*Working date mean Radio Times says Sky-Fi will be with us for "September".

Mad Max 29-08-2018 16:01

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 
Quote:

Late last night when watching WWE Smackdown Live we found that the total channels has gone up by one.

Who do you watch TV with MB, the missus?

RobboEdin 29-08-2018 16:15

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 
Surely the royal we.

jfman 29-08-2018 17:47

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 
They’ve moved some static channels - like Netflix and YouTube onto the BT Sport 4K frequency. They’ve also cleared one frequency of any broadcasts.

Mad Max 29-08-2018 18:03

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 35961686)
They’ve moved some static channels - like Netflix and YouTube onto the BT Sport 4K frequency. They’ve also cleared one frequency of any broadcasts.

So what does all this actually mean to the layman?

RobboEdin 29-08-2018 18:07

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 
Making way for another UHD channel?

jfman 29-08-2018 20:10

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 
Well a single free frequency could hold 6 HD channels, or get reallocated to broadband! So at this stage it’s too early to say what they will do with it.

It’s more efficient, but not the only way, to broadcast an entire frequency with one type of channel.

A single frequency free would allow them to temporarily duplicate channels if they were intending to create more capacity on 64 QAM frequencies by switching to 256 QAM.

Mad Max 29-08-2018 21:17

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 
Ok, thanks for the explanation...…..:)

jfman 29-08-2018 21:56

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 
jj20x is over on DS giving it the usual playground line “I know something you don’t know”.

However it has been revealed Virgin are testing 7 HD channels per frequency and have been doing so for over a week.

http://www.digitalbitrate.com/dtv.ph...ng=en&mux=C002

Raider999 29-08-2018 22:17

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 35961725)
jj20x is over on DS giving it the usual playground line “I know something you don’t know”.

However it has been revealed Virgin are testing 7 HD channels per frequency and have been doing so for over a week.

http://www.digitalbitrate.com/dtv.ph...ng=en&mux=C002

Does this mean further compression?

jfman 29-08-2018 22:23

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 
Yes, it’s already been implemented for that frequency (the top of the light blue line that was relatively flat is now variable and lower, indicating space being created).

---------- Post added at 22:23 ---------- Previous post was at 22:20 ----------

Interestingly, our friends in Germany compress 8 HD channels in some cases:

http://www.digitalbitrate.com/dtv.ph...ve=207&lang=en

They also put paid to the myth you can’t mix HD and SD channels, with 3xHD/5xSD mixed in some cases.

epsilon 29-08-2018 22:27

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 35961730)
Does this mean further compression?


No doubt. The same method freeview used to keep adding channels with freeview's severely limited capacity. The majority of viewers won't even notice, they happily watch heavily compressed blurry vision on freeview. Sadly, compression artefacts will become more obvious to the more discerning viewer.

jfman 29-08-2018 23:51

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 
Does anyone know if the hardware used by Virgin is significantly more advanced than Sky/the majority of channels on the Astra 2 platform? Like for like Virgin seem to have lower bitrates in most cases and my personal experience isn’t that I find the quality lower. Although some third parties used fixes bitrate on satellite.

Is the kit used in 2017 for MPEG4 much more efficient than 5/10 years ago?

dodgem22 30-08-2018 11:43

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 
I wonder if it is because the virgin stb upscales the picture better than the sky boxes.

vincerooney 30-08-2018 12:14

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 
7 HD channels eh? I wonder what these could be. I assume one will be Gold?

Ultimate.Conj 30-08-2018 12:17

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35961767)
7 HD channels eh? I wonder what these could be. I assume one will be Gold?

Sky Atlantic HD? lol

Maybe some of the football channels, MUTV HD?

Not sure what other ones we are missing in all honesty. Most of the channels I watch have the HD variant already.

vincerooney 30-08-2018 12:30

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultimate.Conj (Post 35961769)
Sky Atlantic HD? lol

Maybe some of the football channels, MUTV HD?

Not sure what other ones we are missing in all honesty. Most of the channels I watch have the HD variant already.

I know i'm quite confused its that much unless its purely to test for potential channels far in the future and the ability for the system to handle them?

jfman 30-08-2018 14:11

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 
Right now it’ll be testing the system. There’s no real need for the space at present- there’s plenty of space elsewhere. It could allow them to consolidate the existing HD channels into less frequencies with no perceptible difference in quality to the end users.

Ultimate.Conj 30-08-2018 14:24

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 
Has there been any word on Love Nature UHD coming to virgin?
I heard a few rumours, but nothing concrete just yet.

Love Nature isn't a bad channel, some of the stuff on there has been pretty good. Shame there isn't more content.

jfman 30-08-2018 22:33

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 
I've not heard anything - although Virgin have been running UHD tests in the background so it isn't a capacity issue.


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