Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35584147)

or l go over to Sky.

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35584172)

Remember what happened last time :)

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35584169)

l think all will be revealed in the next 2 to 3 weeks.

Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35584061)

Sky adds free broadband to sports package as BT battle heats up

Sky has bundled in a free broadband subscription for Sky Sports subscribers to fend off competition from BT.

BT Sport launched a similar package last month that includes access to 38 exclusive Premier League matches per season.

The broadcaster has responded by offering new and existing customers 12 months' free Sky Broadband Unlimited or six months' free Sky Fibre Unlimited when they adopt them as service provider.

Despite analysts predicting a price war between the two companies, both have announced plans to increase their prices, with Sky upping the costs of its TV services on September 1 and BT charging more for line rental.

"Since we launched broadband in 2006, millions of customers have saved money and got a better service by switching to Sky. Now we're making it even more affordable to enjoy totally unlimited broadband, including Britain's best value super-fast connection," said Sky marketing executive Stephen van Rooyen.

Sky Broadband is less than half the price paid by millions of BT customers, who can save up to £200 by switching.

"For sports fans, there is no need to compromise on your TV service. Sky Sports comes not only with an unrivalled range of live action, including more Barclays Premier League than ever, but the best deal for totally unlimited broadband as well."

Sky Sports subscribers can access 116 exclusive live Premier League matches next season.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tech/new...#ixzz2WCsRtarY

Originally Posted by paultrademark (Post 35584293)

offering new and existing customers

I'd say so :)

Originally Posted by johnasimmons (Post 35584282)

After the newspaper ads by BT this week I get a sinking feeling that VM will not be getting BT Sports...

Originally Posted by Mikey1981 (Post 35584299)

The bt adverts were clear, only way virgin viewer's will get bt sport is with them, unfortunately the ads were too clear, gutted but not swapping my broadband over to them. I'll find other ways to watch. Bt won't last long if this is their plan as people should have a choice who provides their broadband, not be forced to take bt as its the only way to get some games.

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35584304)

Sorry John but don't believe everything you see or read.:nono::nono:

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Companies are very good at making misleading adverts and it seems they have caught that bug from one or two other companies.

Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35584306)

You mean Virgin? :)

Originally Posted by nstokes (Post 35584315)

Link to Sky Shop about free BB. Nothing about exisiting customers

http://www.sky.com/shop/offers/superfast/sports

Originally Posted by johnasimmons (Post 35584282)

After the newspaper ads by BT this week I get a sinking feeling that VM will not be getting BT Sports...

Originally Posted by nstokes (Post 35584315)

Link to Sky Shop about free BB. Nothing about exisiting customers

http://www.sky.com/shop/offers/superfast/sports

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35584340)

I think you might have to take a new 12 month contract to get the deal. I'm trying to connect with a SKY adviser just now, via the SKY website, to clarify the offer. Because I'm on 50% off for a year already, I don't think I'll get any benefit from this new broadband offer.

I'll let you know how I get on however I've been waiting for ages to connect to a SKY adviser,

Originally Posted by nstokes (Post 35584342)

Im on free BB for 6 months so im ok at moment but when that runs out i want this offer. Seems a but unfair if new customers only

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35584344)

Basically anyone who doesn't have SKY Sports, or SKY Unlimited Broadband currently, will get the benefit of this. So if you have SKY Sports and SKY Broadband Unlimited at the moment, you will continue to pay what you do currently.

New customer taking SKY Sports and SKY broadband get the deal. Existing customers who add SKY Sports, or SKY broadband to their existing package also get the deal.

Not really sure how this is SKY's big answer to the BT Sports situation.

Originally Posted by nstokes (Post 35584355)

That seems pants. Thast no where near as good as BT's offer as that goes to ALL BB customers. Sky should be passing this deal onto existing as well. What if you cancel Sky Sports then add it again afterwards this is surely upgrading, am i correct?

Originally Posted by johnasimmons (Post 35584282)

After the newspaper ads by BT this week I get a sinking feeling that VM will not be getting BT Sports...

Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35584356)

I notice that if you take infinity, they are giving you £100 sainsbury cash card (I got the £50 :()

Originally Posted by Mobes (Post 35584357)

With the amount of money BT have spent they will absolutely have to offer it to VM!

Originally Posted by Mobes (Post 35584370)

Ads will state VM when the deal is done!

Originally Posted by johnasimmons (Post 35584360)

Adverts in the press this week go against this - we are waiting for someone to scan them on (I did not see the ads myself)

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35584382)

What papers run the ads last week? The Sun, The Star, The Mirror, The Metro etc...?

Originally Posted by johnasimmons (Post 35584415)

Not sure but several have mentioned the ads on here in the past few days

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35584419)

I personally have not seen the ads.

It all comes down to the wording, and small print. For example BT can claim just now that:

"You can't get BT Sports on Virgin Media so join BT"

It's a true statement. At the moment BT Sports is not on the Virgin platform.

If however the ads suggest:

"BT Sports will never launch on Virgin Media so now is a great time to move to BT"

Then I would be worried, if I was a Virgin customer.

There is always a bending of the truth with these type of adverts

Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35584420)

Very true. Only thing you can say is...you can get BT sport on sky or BT

Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35584476)

Even if it comes to Virgin, I'm not convinced many will really go for it. I won't, even though with 18 top picks they'll be showing a lot of Palace (;)), so I think the argument that Bt have to open it up to Virgin customers to recoup some of their investment is mistaken - I simply don't believe the take up on Virgin will make it worth their while.

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35584693)

This is what is so annoying that VM know that customers are going to argue about BT Sports. And the amazing thing is that they are NOT saying anything.

This is why VM is NOT a customer related company - they wont say nothing. IF VM did get the channels then they can forget contacting em about approx £15.00 per month. They wont be showing enough football for me to go over to them.

But with VM, if they wont to compete with the big boys, there little babies at the moment, then they might as well close up shop and find a company prepared to take on the big boys.

SkY have had the channels testing for weeks, VM, all they are saying is ' Its coming soon' - we know what that means.

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35584693)

This is what is so annoying that VM know that customers are going to argue about BT Sports. And the amazing thing is that they are NOT saying anything.

This is why VM is NOT a customer related company - they wont say nothing. IF VM did get the channels then they can forget contacting em about approx £15.00 per month. They wont be showing enough football for me to go over to them.

But with VM, if they wont to compete with the big boys, there little babies at the moment, then they might as well close up shop and find a company prepared to take on the big boys.

SkY have had the channels testing for weeks, VM, all they are saying is ' Its coming soon' - we know what that means.

Originally Posted by telegramsam (Post 35584725)

I was waiting to see what the deal would be with virgin and BT over the sports channels because I was considering switching back to virgin if they got a good deal with BT but I got tired of waiting and got BT sports on my sky box for £12 a month including the channels in hd free for 12 months. I also took up sky`s offer of half price broadband for 12 months (£3.75 instead of the current £7.50) which is a good deal I think. I know this was done to stop me from switching my broadband to BT`s but I`m happy. You do wonder what the sticking point is regarding Virgin and BT sports,don`t you? Anyway I hope you guys on Virgin get BT sports before the launch on August 1st

Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35584724)

I still think we should boycott BT sport on virgin...that would teach them :D

Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35584729)

Or at least before christmas :)

Originally Posted by johnasimmons (Post 35584360)

Adverts in the press this week go against this - we are waiting for someone to scan them on (I did not see the ads myself)

Originally Posted by seedybob (Post 35584957)

This ad ran on Thursday - if you download the Daily Star App you can view previous days editions. Don't know what other days (or papers) ran it.

They changed the rhetoric on Friday.

Originally Posted by johnasimmons (Post 35584994)

The advert makes it look like we won't be getting BT Sport (& ESPN) from August 1st :(

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35584995)

To me its a load of baloney.

Originally Posted by johnasimmons (Post 35584994)

The advert makes it look like we won't be getting BT Sport (& ESPN) from August 1st :(

Originally Posted by eljay (Post 35584699)

But they are saying something - they are still in negotiations. No company is going to inform anyone on this or any other forums as to the status of those negotiations.

If they did then they are even bigger fools than some on here claim they are.

Sky are testing because they have it.

VM are not babies and the new owners certainly aren't. Their customer relations are below average in my view but certainly not the worst that I have encountered

Anyway regardless of whatever they say some on here would claim it's all lies designed to put people off moving ISP.

Originally Posted by Mobes (Post 35585004)

LOL this means nothing.

1) BT ISN'T the only place to get ESPN & BT sports as we know Sky will get it.

Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35585042)

Is ESPN currently available on TV Anywhere? Quickly reading the small print of the ad I got the impression that it's access to ESPN over the internet that Virgin customers are about to lose? I may have interpreted that incorrectly.

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35585006)

l would take that advert with a pinch of salt as it has a lot of untruths in it as they know as well as Virgin do that BT Sports will appear on VM platform before the start of the season and they are just having a last desperate throw of the dice before the deal is announced in the coming weeks.

Originally Posted by Henkesghost (Post 35585061)

The lady was very good but was very evasive when it came to discussing BT Sports. Brought the conversation back to the possibility of Virgin not carrying it a couple of times and she was floundering badly on it each time and tried to steer the conversation away from it. :(

Originally Posted by DaMac (Post 35585111)

An interesting snippet in the sun today where they belittle BTs claims about 18 top pick games, they only get these after sky have picked their 20 top pick games, so utd v city, Liverpool v utd, arsenal v Chelsea will all still be on sky!!! They also say that sky have a purple response team (?) that are planning to reign hell on BTs advertising and marketing strategy :shocked:
Ps VM are probably assembling a pink team to tell us how it is more important to record 3 programmes whilst streaming iplayer :td:

Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35585116)

I'm not sure that is true

38 weeks football...BT gets 18 top picks...sky 20

But lets wait and see...unless you are with virgin...then it is..coming soon to a tv not with virgin :D

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35585124)

Oh deary deary me Sir Colin your pessimism towards Virgin knows no bounds it seems.:D

Originally Posted by DaMac (Post 35585111)

An interesting snippet in the sun today where they belittle BTs claims about 18 top pick games, they only get these after sky have picked their 20 top pick games, so utd v city, Liverpool v utd, arsenal v Chelsea will all still be on sky!!! They also say that sky have a purple response team (?) that are planning to reign hell on BTs advertising and marketing strategy :shocked:
Ps VM are probably assembling a pink team to tell us how it is more important to record 3 programmes whilst streaming iplayer :td:

Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35585116)

I'm not sure that is true

38 weeks football...BT gets 18 top picks...sky 20

But lets wait and see...unless you are with virgin...then it is..coming soon to a tv not with virgin :D

Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35585126)

I can't resist :D

Originally Posted by DaMac (Post 35585136)

Yes but sky get to pick their 20 weeks first and BT are left with the remaining 18 weeks, so the 18 top picks left might not have any really big games

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35585128)

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/ne...ply&p=35585111

"THE GLOVES will start to come off in the war between BT Sport and Sky when next season’s top-flight fixtures are announced on Wednesday.
BT’s publicity blitz, featuring Joe Hart, and Gareth Bale, has heavily trailed the 18 ‘first-pick’ matches in their total of 38.

But Sky will already have chosen which 20 rounds of games they have the plum tie in — leaving BT to make do with the headline encounter in the remaining 18.


News of the first few weeks of televised games is due in around three weeks.
At which point expect Sky’s Project Purple — the unit dedicated to responding to the BT challenge — to unleash hell."

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35585145)

And one would expect that thy master :waving: led by his right hand man :Yes::Yes: will lead thy forces into battle.:D

Originally Posted by Henkesghost (Post 35585150)

Sadly Den to use the football coverage the providers command as an analogy BT and Sky are like Real Madrid and Man Utd battling it out in the Champions league while Virgin are like Spurs trying to sneak in the back door :(

Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35585144)

Where does it say that sky get to select their first 20 weeks first?

Originally Posted by DaMac (Post 35585155)

I told you in the sun newspaper, chad has replicated the article in full.

Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35585159)

Hmm..so the sun speculates? eeh gods...:D

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35584995)

To me its a load of baloney.

Originally Posted by kop32 (Post 35585163)

Just for you Den......:D

Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35585144)

Where does it say that sky get to select their first 20 weeks first?

Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35585230)

By virtue of the fact that they won the auction and got the first choice packs.

18 top picks doesn't mean the 18 best matches.

But you knew that, right?

Still, at least Bt have kept a good relationship with Sky - that will work in their favour...

Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35585298)

Sorry, I thought they got the time of the matches, not first picks.

BT sport have mainly the 12:45 saturday slot

Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35585322)

The majority of teams who will be playing in what we'll consider top pick matches won't be playing on a Saturday lunchtime after Wednesday and Thursday Champions and Europa League matches. Even if Bt got to choose first - and I think it's quite clear that Sky would have gone after pack A rather than D if that was the case - their choice would be limited by opposition from the Premier League's most powerful clubs.

It's also worth pointing out that 5 of their top picks come from package G.

Anyway, fixtures out tomorrow!

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http://www.sportingintelligence.com/...t-next-190601/ is a good article to read. Based on the fixtures of the season just gone it would have been possible for Bt to have precisely no weekend top 6 team v. Top 6 team matches!

We should start a "myths about Bt sports" thread!

Originally Posted by paultrademark (Post 35585456)

Yeah just got the same :)

Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35585322)

The majority of teams who will be playing in what we'll consider top pick matches won't be playing on a Saturday lunchtime after Wednesday and Thursday Champions and Europa League matches. Even if Bt got to choose first - and I think it's quite clear that Sky would have gone after pack A rather than D if that was the case - their choice would be limited by opposition from the Premier League's most powerful clubs.

It's also worth pointing out that 5 of their top picks come from package G.

Anyway, fixtures out tomorrow!

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http://www.sportingintelligence.com/...t-next-190601/ is a good article to read. Based on the fixtures of the season just gone it would have been possible for Bt to have precisely no weekend top 6 team v. Top 6 team matches!

We should start a "myths about Bt sports" thread!

Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35585465)

Or maybe a "We aren't getting BT sports and we don't care" thread

Then affiliate with Millwall fans :D

Originally Posted by johnasimmons (Post 35585475)

No one likes us, no one likes us, no one likes us and we don't care
We are Millwall, super Millwall, we are Millwall from The Den ;)

Originally Posted by johnasimmons (Post 35585423)

Received this email from VM today:

Hello John,
Thanks for registering to get the latest on BT Sport.
At the moment we're still talking with BT about how we can make the BT Sport package available to you when it launches this summer.
As soon as we have any news, we'll let you know.
Don't forget that you can still watch ESPN on channel 529 and in HD on channel 530 until 31st July.
And in the meantime, British Eurosport will keep you captivated with the Tour de France in July, as well as bringing you extensive coverage of the Athletics World Championship from Moscow and Vuelta a Espana in August.
Kind regards,
The Virgin Media team

no new news...

Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35585465)

Or maybe a "We aren't getting BT sports and we don't care" thread

Then affiliate with Millwall fans :D

Originally Posted by Ben B (Post 35585557)

'How' could also mean inclusive/discounted in an existing package or as a separate package

Originally Posted by Ben B (Post 35585575)

They're 'competing' with Sky more though with their sports offering that much is clear, Virgin don't have their own sports channel. Virgin don't work in that way so they would never allow direct sale of channels from content providers and I'm sure Sky wouldn't if they could