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No other info was given.

But SP says when it do start it will take weeks.

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i thought the tivo ui roll out had been going on for the past few weeks as some people already have the purple background?? but its actually only starting on tuesday? i'm confused?

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Some customers were chosen to trial it Vince and dependent how that went then the staggered full rollout would highly likely begin after that.

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It was a expansion of the trial and not the roll out:)

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ah! thank you kind sir most helpful

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Just to repeat...

No decision has been made on rolling out the software yet. The decision isn't made until the day before it actually happens. (What would be the point of a trial where you ignored some of the results?)

It will then take a few weeks for the software to get to everyone.

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This is Virgin....

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Remember its a new company, and they may want to try a national rollout so they can display Opera tv, Netflix (With user Profiles) HTML5 Applications before the change freeze. To do this all Tivos must have been upgraded to be able use it

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Do we know anymore about opera tv

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http://www.operasoftware.com/products/tv-store

if you want to try opera tv on you pc

http://www.operasoftware.com/products/tv-emulator

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Thank you v much!

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On every software update, a proportion of boxes fail to update correctly. If they were all done at the same time, some people would be left without a working service for weeks until a technician could get to them. That's why rollouts are always done in a controlled way.

It's 6 or 7 weeks to the change freeze. That's enough time to do a controlled rollout and more.

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Is the update still due to begin its roll out tomorrow?

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Yes and no. We're planning downloads for tomorrow, but will then pause to review how well it goes before deciding when to continue.

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Guessing the areas this will happen in are not going to be announced like last time?

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I prefer not to say until it's done in case there's a problem or late change of plan.
Anyway, today's lucky victims are:

Carlisle
Coventry
Dundee
Edinburgh
Exeter
Hemel
Lewisham
Warwick

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In Edinburgh. Box on this morning and updated. Quick go before work, speedie. Some cutdown menu options, very good! Will test Iplayer and suggestions out later!

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Coventry has been done. New look this morning. Looks better and clearer. I'll check functionality later.

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Both my boxes in Dundee updated successfully. Not got time to play with the update this moring but first impressions are that I like the new font but I don't like the colour scheme. However as I am colour blind my opinion on colour is not to be trusted.

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Whats the betting teesside will be one of the last areas

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As a Hibs fan I absolutely despise the colour scheme but generally much slicker. Like what they've done with 'my shows' to save the endless scrolling for something that takes your fancy. Also, Netflix having profiles is a godsend so my suggestions aren't filled with kids Lego programs now and can now watch series at different pace from your Mrs without getting hit by spoilers as you try find your episode.

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Low, based on past experience. Teesside tends to get stuff early because it's a nice medium size and doesn't have any network oddities.

As far as I can remember, the regions that were updated today have never had a trial or been first for roll-out before. Everyone gets their turn eventually.

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Thats promising news

:)

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Cheers for info SP, any news yet on whether or the not the roll out will continue tonight, or will the decision making process take a few days?

I understand that you may not have the answer yet.:)

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Is the update being rolled out on a daily basis, or is it weekly?

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Can I have the old UI back, please?

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No kidding All those steamy dramas I keep getting recommended lol are now just for me, not wifey too!

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The changes to speed etc are much welcomed, but the colour scheme is bloody awful imo!

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There will be no new areas updated tonight. We'll review daily.

Neither at the moment.

No. You'll get used to it ;)

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I much prefer the new colour scheme. I always disliked the red and black.

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:nono::nono: l am happy with the new one.:D

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Has it been rolled out in Glasgow Stephen?

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It hasn't but I have seen it and very much prefer the colour scheme and fonts.

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Thanks Stephen :)

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Cheers.:)

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So fingers crossed Wolverhampton is higher up the roll-out list this time. Last time we were last day but one and we have never been lucky enough to be in a trial.

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Is iPlayer supposed to be improved? Still having problems when watching in HD.

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It's the same iPlayer app at present

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Thanks. Just been reading a bit more about the changes elsewhere re html 5.

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Is there a list of changes/improvements anywhere?

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Err... here:
Faster
Purpler
New categories in My Shows
"What To Watch Now" (which to my mind is a list of programmes you've missed the start of!)
Supports HTML5 applications
Lots of bug fixes

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I got my update yesterday. Generally, I like the new look although I would take issue with 'faster'. There don't seem to be any noticeable speed improvements - at least none that can be measured without the use of carefully calibrated scientific equipment.

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When I submitted my report on the new update some weeks ago, I reported that it was much faster than before.

Since, then, it's slowed down again! Not to the levels previously, but it was a disappointment that some screens take too long to load.

Not sure if this is a fault of the software, signal strength, congestion or what but I hope it improves.

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I would agree with you that I reserve judgement on the performance of some of the basic functions.

At times, they seem faster than before but also significantly slower sometimes. A restart of the TiVo seems to bring performance benefits.

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Well, purple is my favourite colour so looking forward to the new colour scheme!

Anyway nothing in Biggleswade just yet but I imagine we're a small-ish area for VM so may have to wait a little bit longer for attention! :p

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Totally agree with this, I thought when I used it at first it was a wee bit quicker, but I was playing around with it today and tbh there is no real difference in speed at all, in fact I tried to load Netflix and I could have went for a stroll around the block and be back before it loaded up! Not very good Virgin!

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Lets not jump to conclusions as its early days yet......

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I don't think anyone is jumping to conclusions Den mate, but the facts are there, as the above posts prove. Hopefully it's just teething problems, but I was expecting a much faster/slicker TiVo experience, but sadly it just hasn't happened.

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Its only just came out of trial and is in the early part of the rollout so its best not to judge until a few months down the road in my opinion.

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Edited my original post mate, sorry.

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Also its the TiVo GUI thats seen speed increases and improvements. There probably isn't anything different about the Netflix app just yet. Same with the iPlayer app.

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Maybe for you Stephen, but I haven't noticed any real speed improvements.

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So, the TiVo randomly rebooted earlier, right in the middle of watching a recording. The box then sat around updating for a while eventually presenting me with so much purple. The jury is out on the colour scheme at the moment. The purple on the menu is acceptable, but please, who thought up the deep red progress bar on a lilac background? Lilac is never going to be cool. :p:

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Nothing for me this morning. I will probably get mine just before Christmas knowing my luck.

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Updated today... :)

Most of Barnsley (Barnsley, Bradford, Castleford, Doncaster, Halifax, Wakefield)
Bristol
Glasgow (now includes Irvine)
Peterborough
Teesside

New update here in Teesside, looks nice and modern

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I'm a little surprised that when you press TV Guide whilst in Home or My Shows the whole screen still goes black for a second

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The high contrast progress bar is still the old shape with the rounded edges and looks slightly better than the new purple one with red progress line.

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Typical of VM not to inform us of the update overnight, not looked at it yet but I will do so later on

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Actually it's untypical. On previous roll-outs we have sent a message the day before, but this time we're trying without.

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Well I'm central Scotland but no update yet despite both Edinburgh and glasgow supposed to be updated. Connected to castlecary CMTS, when will it be updated?

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You want to get yourself downgraded to a VHD box, 10 times faster than Tivo...

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Fair enough

Just got round to checking my box and its not updated so I assume Darlington wasn't part of the teesside update overnight?

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Bristol changed about 08-45 this morning.

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Uddingston and Falkirk have yet to be done. You are one of those.

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I'd guess Falkirk as its closer. I'll keep patiently waiting then.

Seen the new UI in Edinburgh yesterday and I think it's a good improvement personally.

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Ha, ha! The TIVO is still a big improvement over the other boxes available IMO. It's only the speed that is the problem, but the advantages outweigh this little disadvantage.

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I don't get the speed issue with TIVO. Channel changes are pretty quick and so if getting to your recorded shows. The only time i ever find it a bit slow is On demand stuff which I don't often use.

Maybe im lucky... or not overly picky lol

BTW although not in Luton I'm an LU postcode...any news on when I'll get the update?

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I still hate the default recording settings. My defaults are 5 minutes prior and 10 minutes after, but it won't let me set that as default.

1 minute before and 4 minutes after is useless for certain channels.

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Got the new update and its much easier on the eyes now everything seems quicker as well

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How big is the Barnsley area SP?

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Big! All the places named above, plus Sheffield and Rotherham.

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I know this is off topic, but which local TV channel will get leeds or Sheffield?

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That's the subject of much debate. I think Sheffield and Rotherham will get Sheffield; Leeds and Kirklees will get Leeds. The rest of Yorkshire is TBD.

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Ideally, all of the South Yorkshire areas should get Sheffield as the official DTT coverage area will also overlap with parts of VM Barnsley & Doncaster areas. Similarly, I would have thought that most, if not all, of the West Yorkshire VM areas should get the Leeds service. West Yorkshire being more difficult in that other local services are planned.

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Got the update today. Looks much better but why have they still not fixed the 'Video Output' settings!

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Interesting that the former Telewest Barnsley area is now being upgraded with former NTL areas in West Yorkshire rather than the traditional Telewest neighbouring areas of Sheffield and Rotherham. I guess that's to ease the load on the local tech. teams dealing with problematic upgrades.

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The design is better and it isn't lilac, which has to be a plus. Sadly the rest of the high contrast pages are a little too black for many people.

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There are no seperate NTL or Telewest areas now.

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When is Manchester being given the new TiVo update? We still have the dated red EPG on our box.

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30mins before half an hour after it's done! In other words no one can say at the moment.

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Fixed in what way?

edit: Ah - I've just found your identical post from a year ago. You want passthrough. Fair point.

Everywhere should be done before Christmas.

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Like the info screen suggests! If you want to upscale everything then you can or if you want the original resolution then that is possible also. At present I'm forced to upscale all SD content.

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SD looks better upscaled though. If you left it at its original resolution it wouldn't look very good at all.

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It depends on which has the best up-scaling functionality; Tivo or the person's TV, or even an AV amp if they are feeding the signal through one.

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Indeed, that would be why I referred to them as former areas.

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I presume Knowsley will be one of the last areas to be updated as per usual.

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Like most places, it'll probably be somewhere in the middle. Nowhere is "last per usual".

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Still think it would be nice if the TiVo had an option to do overscan trimming on upscaled SD. Maybe I'm the only one who wants to watch HD without the edges cut out *and* SD without ragged borders...

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My TIVO failed yesterday, all "channels unavailable", HD box upstairs was OK.

It took 20 minutes to get through to someone on 150, they did a reboot and all was OK. But only for an hour or so, then the fault reappeared.

25 more minutes to get through to someone on 150, another reboot, and all was well again.

Not happy.

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Everyone seems to think their area is "last as per usual" yet nobody has ever claimed they're "usually first"....

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Virgin Media HQ is always first.:D;)

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Well l can safely say l was one of the first as l was one of the trialist they chose.

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People in Crawley could legitimately claim that. They tend to get picked as the only very small Knowsley region.

Nope, they haven't got it yet. HQ is full of accountants, lawyers etc. Product development is done elsewhere.

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Well apart from the staff trialists who were the very first ;)

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And the developers who were even firster :D

Actually den was in Pilot 2, so nowhere near first. (And you're on an old version den - we need to update your box again)

Teesside got the update Thursday, all of my friends and family have Tivo apart from one who has Sky, that's 21 households, cable is big here. And all of them hate the new colour scheme, my sister has changed to the alternative scheme. I don't mind it but I know what they mean, it kinda looks cheap or very basic?
Anyone else?

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Totally agree, I think it's crap tbh, no speed improvements whatsoever.

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They have certainly dropped the red colours usually associated with the Virgin brand. A sign of things to come perhaps?

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What is the alternative scheme?

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Thank you lads for putting me in my place yet again.:D:bigcry:

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Is it the high contrast alternative display, for individuals with visual disabilities ? Found in settings. The ui goes black and white

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I personally love the new colours and think overall it looks cleaner and sharper and a lot classier.

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I have three TiVos and they are all quicker since the update. Both mini guide and the main menus. Not a lot but enough to notice while navigating.