Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Well modem mode used to be better. i don't know about now.

Since R36, i find router mode to be better, but at the moment neither are particularly what id consider good

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Found this quite bizarre - I guess they haven't updated the DNS for that step 6 IP since the NTL days :D

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

So I've switched over my old Dlink router (provided by VM) to a new TP-Link one which I flashed with DD-WRT firmware.

However Ping Monitor is still having issues with it (full red block). The only help online I've found said to turn off "Block Anonymous WAN Requests (ping)", which I have, but still no dice.

Anyone successfully using a DD-WRT flashed router with Ping Monitor?

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

They all worked fine for me... Though I almost always run with firewall off.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Connection since 4th of July.

Good, to bad, to worse, now to this... god i love VM

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...17-07-2012.png

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

I am running a DIR-615 w/dd-wrt build #18007. No problems pinging from TBB. Here's my graph:

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...2caac9f80.html

I have "Block Anonymous WAN Requests (ping)" un-ticked ... I can check other settings if you wish?

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

some of those dd wrt builds over buffer packets. i had that build and got rid because of that issue. test VM's 615 build or the d link builds and compare it to that dd wrt build within your ping monitor

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

What is the effect of this? Higher latency, slower speeds, both?

I am going to buy a TP-Link TL-WR1043ND Gigabit router and put dd-wrt on .. would you know if this suffers from same problem?

Thanks ..

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

high latency.

not sure about dd wrt on tp link but i got fed up with dd wrt.

go for an Asus RT-N66U and put Tomato on it. or an RT-N56U. both future proof. or Linksys highend, 4200v2 isnt supported by third party firmware though i dont think. not sure about Asus RT-N56U as well

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

T'internet says no - it apparently has a Ralink chipset not Broadcom so Tomato won't work.

I loved Tomato although I was maybe using an old version as it was an antique router.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

:tu:

Linksys e4200v1 or Asus RT-N66U

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

This is our live graph, it seems that it isn't much worse than it has been recently

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2013/02/9.png

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

And very nice it is too, been running it for some weeks now without issue. The alternative GUI is nice too.

Cheers

Grim

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2012/07/2.png]

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

I just wanted to show the change in my broadband connection over the last week or two.

Here was my typical connection on 50MB XXL using firmware R30:

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...16-07-2012.png

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...15-07-2012.png


And now here below shows it changing over to 100MB XXL as part of a new contract upgrade, and also the firmware changing to R36 at the same time. It changed over during the red spike just before 4pm. The upstream channel ID and my IP has remained the same throughout this process. (Ignore the old firmware version in the graph title)

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...17-07-2012.png

And ongoing it looks like this:

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...18-07-2012.png

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...19-07-2012.png


I didn't really notice any problems in real world usage before. Just though I would share is all.

EDIT: Forgot to say this is all in normal router mode.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

My connection when I changed from a VMNG300 to SH (Modem mode - Router is TP-Link running DD-WRT)

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Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Interesting - very good comparison. Big increase in minimum latency, similar increase in average latency, big reduction in maximum latency - most of the time.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

[img]Download Failed (1)[/img]

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2012/07/36.png

R36 Combo mode

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Can I ask what DD-WRT build you're using and if you changed any settings specifically to get Ping Monitor to work?

I've even completely disabled the SPI firewall, but still nothing.

Edit: Nevermind - I just deleted the Ping Monitor graph and made another. Works fine now, probably just a bug or something.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

No is NOT edited with photo shop
Is just a simple change of the channels
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...20-07-2012.png

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Here is my monitor after R 36 but still in modem mode.

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...21-07-2012.png

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

very nice :)

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

that is from the best i have seen
Hope will stay this way because with virginity never know what the future will be

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

:rofl:

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...22-07-2012.png

Small issue overnight. Bradford core had packet loss as well and seems like it filtered down.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

If by "small" you mean major national routing cockup, then yeah it was small.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

mine Batley West Yorkshire on new firmware and modem only mode

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...22-07-2012.png

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

edit, made a mistake

---------- Post added at 18:09 ---------- Previous post was at 18:08 ----------

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2012/07/14.png

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

TT adsl line 2.100-2.400meter far from exchange(direct line) with DSL2680+Vigor 2920n
Since 12pm the ping lower under 9ms ;)
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2012/07/11.jpg
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2012/07/24.png

:cool: Beat that :cool:
http://www.pingtest.net/result/66914912.png

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Nice. They've clearly done something with their routing. Shame it was so high before though, just goes to show how inefficient it used to be...

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

I changed over from a vmng300 to a superhub and have seen a slight decrease in maximum latency.

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...26-07-2012.png

The large and frequent spikes I believe to be the ICM tester. There was also some downloading done after the upgrade at 6pm.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

first direct vmng to R36 comparison I seen thanks, but if you keep the live graph in a few hours the data wont show.

So your min latency went up slightly. Average latency with it but only to match the increase in min but overnight was better, max latency an overall decrease as you said.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Ferret posted a much better one a few days back, http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35...-post1917.html but its now showing the wrong date.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...25-07-2012.png

That should be the right date.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Interesting,,,,, any guess as to the yellow bits,,,,, theres no one in our house and nothing switched on to use the internet apart from the Sky+ box, yet there are clear yellow bits which are usually indicative of use on my network.

Yet my network hasnt been used since about midnight last night???

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...27-07-2012.png

minimum latency could be a tad better ideally but I suspect that is just Sky's interleaving? :shrug:

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Sky has no control over interleaving on Fibre.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Ive heard that, but do they have any control at all, specifically over things like max delays

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

I think sky can order profile resets. So they do have some limited control.

They also can ask for line faults to be investigated, since a line fault can cause interleaving to be applied they have indirect control in that way as well.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

was reading in a forum all isp's have full control of the fibre, other way will not sell it
That was told by BT engineer
Don't remember the thread now but i have seen it 100%

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

No, they can't. Only Openreach engineers can order profile resets, and they have to be physically on-site with a line tester to do it. Sky can only request an engineer visit, what the engineer does is up to Openreach.

The only thing they have control over is whether the line is put on Standard, Stable or Super-Stable profile(s). These are just different error thresholds for the application of rate-limiting and interleaving but none turn them on or off by themselves.

---------- Post added at 18:26 ---------- Previous post was at 18:24 ----------

They have zero control over the fibre. Even standard Openreach engineers (including those that install FTTC services) have zero control over the fibre, and can't even access the FTTC cabinet.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

That was told by BT BT engineer or openreach
What is the point to sell it if have not control? is not make sense selling something that can not control .... but you could be right here

About the FTTC cabinet they can access it

I am in London almost fibre cabinets everywhere (even here is one fibre around 60 meters away but i am direct to exchange together with about an other 70-80 premises)
I have seen many engineers be at various cabinets for installing people's FTTC ( i know because i was asking them questions even i did not know them) and have seen by my self they have both open cabinets (fibre & normal) and do works during instillation at both of them
Other case i have seen engineer just have open only one FTTC cabinet and the normal next of it close
100% sure :tu:

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Since you can't tell the difference between engineers for two different companies you certainly can't make any claims about two different types of engineer for one company...

To make money. Same reason anyone sells internet services.

Define "they".

And your point is?

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

as i said i have seen them i am looking them every day passing next of them
as i said you can be right about selling fibre with out having control ....for making money...yes you can be right

my point at last quote is they can access the normal cabinet and FTTC cabinet BT or Openreach engineers

also at previous address had FTTC and iengineer called me when he was at cabinet so i pop down to my local cabinet
He had open FTTC and normal cabinet open during work(i was at cabinet 19 and 5 meters next of it the large FTTC)

With respect Babis

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

I look at cabinets too. What's your point?

So some engineers can access some cabinets. It's pretty obvious and everyone knows that. I'm still not sure what your point is.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

sorry perhaps too many quotes we miss understood

at you post number #1941 and Post added at 18:26
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35...-post1941.html

you are replied to my quote with this:

They have zero control over the fibre. Even standard Openreach engineers (including those that install FTTC services) have zero control over the fibre, and can't even access the FTTC cabinet.

So that is my point
Thanks

---------- Post added at 22:56 ---------- Previous post was at 22:55 ----------

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

There's still no point in your statement... You're simply repeating a vague version of what I said.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Hi All

Am I been hit with Traffic Management?

Live Graph
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2012/12/59.png

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2012/07/7.png

Oh I am on 60 what was 30mb

The computer is using wfi

From My Linux Box with Cat5 Connection

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2012/07/8.png

[Edit] Spelling

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Not (STM) in the middle of the night. Was the computer running al night and was it downloading throughout the period?

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Yes My computer is running 24/7, running World Community Grid.

As for downloading no.

It has the same pattern wen the computers are Off for days, but I normally run them 24/7.

Could it have anything to do with the 2 TiVo boxs?

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

It won't have anything to do with Tivo. The TBB graph is a sort of peer to peer connection between TBB & your router. The Tivo stuff is not on the tuned frequencies of your cable modem/SH.

Noting what you say about the computers being off, maybe there's an upstream impairment that could be revealed by your modem stats and event log. Any chance we could see these? Please refresh the upstream stats so we can see if upstream power is moving from refresh to refresh.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Still holding up well. Plus either the upstream frequency was changed or there are now 2 in this area. The short packet loss spike in this around 1pm is where I rebooted to see if it swapped back to old channel but it didn't.

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...29-07-2012.png

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Still looking good :)
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2012/07/2.png

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Same.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2012/08/40.png

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Recent 30M user:


http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...2-08-2012.html

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

I thot not, thanks for confirming it.

Sorry but I don't know how to do that with the Super Hub.

02/08/2012 Graph All Computers Off
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...02-08-2012.png

[Edit] Mist out the Live Graph
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2012/12/59.png

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Been having issues with SWTOR since my superhub upgraded its firmware the other day, am on 30mb, I keep suffering mini lag spikes last no more than 5-10 seconds, I dont get disconnected but I cant do anything in game until it settles back to normal, Virgin say its Biowares problem, Bioware say its Virgin, same old story, anyway trying to use this to make things clearer so what do you all think ?

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Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

IMO the problem lies with VM, your broadband is poor most of the time by the looks of that graph.

Just in case it's your own activity that causing your poor TBB results, can you show a graph when you know for a fact that nothing was running on your network.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Here you go pabscars, graph below is from last night, all machines off from midnight til just before 8am this morning.

[img]Download Failed (1)[/img]


Any thoughts?

Cheers

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Well that pretty much proves it's a VM issue IMO, so your choices are

A. Get onto VM again and complain and ask them to check utilisation both down and upstream, check your power levels are spot on, all cables done up nice and tight ish.

Then sit tight once VM have concurred the issue is theirs and wait for a resolution date, but be prepared to wait a long time as it can take months to get issues like yours sorted.

B. Move to BT Infinity or Sky Fibre.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

here a comparison between the 2 devices tht was yesterday connected to the superhub today the vmng 300 modem so is it network congestion or the devices causing high latency because prior to the firmwire upgrade on the hub it was a jitter fest now its outperforming it in modem mode and router mode vmg is connected on right of the graph



http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...06-08-2012.png
.

---------- Post added at 18:37 ---------- Previous post was at 18:36 ----------

heres updated graph



http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...6-08-2012.html



last saturday superhub graph when network is most likely busy



http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...4-08-2012.html

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Page not found on all 3 links

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

here vmng 300

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...7-08-2012.html

vs superhub saturday

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...4-08-2012.html

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

VMNG300

[img]Download Failed (1)[/img]

SH (Modem mode) 7 days later

[img]Download Failed (1)[/img]

YMMV ;)

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

the superhub gave me 6 downstream while the vmng is 4 this could be the reason the only thing bad with the hub is the wireless range amd the jitter issues pre the r36 firmware i would trade ur monitor for mine

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

very nice. where are you?

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...06-08-2012.png


My mates 10MB yesterday..........WTF..

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

My results, to be honest not sure what it means but I'm sure it isn't good
Attachment 23711

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

It means you were downloading/uploading heavily after 7pm

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

I was dl/ul yesterday but not heavily. This is tonight with no activity
Attachment 23714
not seen this before

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

My graph looks very similar but was fine the week before. I'm wondering if the increased latency is down to people viewing(or catching up) the Olympics via BBC IPlayer.

---------- Post added at 09:03 ---------- Previous post was at 09:01 ----------

My brother has just moved from a VMG300 to SH with almost identical results.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Here is my comparison between the VMNG300 and the Superhub

VMNG300(4 Channels 50/5):
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Superhub(5 Channels 100/5 R36 in modem mode):
[img]Download Failed (1)[/img]
Its not the best example as those regular spikes are the icm device testing.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

9th August 2012 19:03:44 2905 Kbps 10682 Kbps
9th August 2012 18:45:32 2931 Kbps 21369 Kbps
9th August 2012 17:09:20 2933 Kbps 39456 Kbps
9th August 2012 10:50:50 2930 Kbps 62485 Kbps
8th August 2012 22:06:00 2929 Kbps 19421 Kbps
8th August 2012 20:11:29 2931 Kbps 36959 Kbps
8th August 2012 09:37:35 2928 Kbps 59813 Kbps
7th August 2012 23:20:10 2840 Kbps 3497 Kbps
7th August 2012 23:08:30 2242 Kbps 3773 Kbps
7th August 2012 23:08:00 1903 Kbps 2856 Kbps
6th August 2012 09:54:53 2928 Kbps 61111 Kbps
5th August 2012 17:39:53 2928 Kbps 27279 Kbps
5th August 2012 11:21:58 2928 Kbps 59205 Kbps
4th August 2012 22:23:37 2924 Kbps 20664 Kbps
4th August 2012 17:23:02 2927 Kbps 16114 Kbps
3rd August 2012 22:24:02 2914 Kbps 11624 Kbps
31st July 2012 19:54:36 2927 Kbps 33783 Kbps
30th July 2012 20:13:51 2928 Kbps 35330 Kbps
28th July 2012 22:21:30 2931 Kbps 23384 Kbps
28th July 2012 16:22:49 2928 Kbps 36902 Kbps
27th July 2012 22:31:28 2895 Kbps 12383 Kbps
25th July 2012 22:24:06 2929 Kbps 15964 Kbps
24th July 2012 22:13:43 2925 Kbps 17989 Kbps
23rd July 2012 19:59:19 2926 Kbps 43773 Kbps
22nd July 2012 18:51:37 2927 Kbps 39295 Kbps
21st July 2012 16:23:54 2931 Kbps 60161 Kbps
21st July 2012 11:54:31 2932 Kbps 16265 Kbps
20th July 2012 22:45:01 2925 Kbps 12345 Kbps
20th July 2012 19:08:43 2929 Kbps 57373 Kbps
20th July 2012 10:45:23 2931 Kbps 57862 Kbps
19th July 2012 01:05:27 2932 Kbps 62228 Kbps
18th July 2012 22:23:10 2916 Kbps 24712 Kbps
18th July 2012 18:21:43 2931 Kbps 41293 Kbps
18th July 2012 15:07:27 2931 Kbps 41286 Kbps
18th July 2012 09:06:38 2930 Kbps 63664 Kbps
18th July 2012 01:43:38 2932 Kbps 34173 Kbps
17th July 2012 22:17:49 2901 Kbps 8029 Kbps
17th July 2012 22:17:04 2877 Kbps 11436 Kbps
17th July 2012 18:22:21 2931 Kbps 53183 Kbps
17th July 2012 08:56:25 2930 Kbps 50908 Kbps
16th July 2012 22:16:51 1199 Kbps 3685 Kbps
16th July 2012 22:16:18 1333 Kbps 2796 Kbps
15th July 2012 22:26:32 2845 Kbps 11816 Kbps
15th July 2012 17:18:57 2929 Kbps 52559 Kbps
14th July 2012 22:26:18 2860 Kbps 9518 Kbps
14th July 2012 17:02:25 2929 Kbps 43863 Kbps
13th July 2012 22:53:58 2920 Kbps 12395 Kbps
13th July 2012 22:21:37 2347 Kbps 5244 Kbps
13th July 2012 22:20:44 2682 Kbps 4352 Kbps
13th July 2012 22:20:10 2853 Kbps 2133 Kbps
13th July 2012 19:27:18 2924 Kbps 10640 Kbps
13th July 2012 17:20:22 2922 Kbps 30130 Kbps
13th July 2012 17:18:18 2919 Kbps 24867 Kbps
Average Speeds: 2809 Kbps 28755 Kbps
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VM take a look at this, paying for 60mb one of your engineers came out and said there is nothing wrong, they are capping your bandwidth in peak times, no not capping more like throttling. Just to add i do not download movies or large files at anytime, just use it for gaming.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

http://www.speedtest.bbmax.co.uk/ ? Ive stopped using that completely now as it is all over the place for me sometimes I will get full speed and sometimes I will get a few meg and it dosent even seem to depend on peak times.

Both just done right now.
http://www.speedtest.bbmax.co.uk/res...213&v=16762163
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2012/08/29.png

For me its like back when I first went onto 50 as it was released, basically no servers could reliably give me full speed yet I was getting full speed all of the time. It eventually got better over time.

Also you do get both capped if you go over the stm limits and throttled between certain times on p2p and nntp traffic.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

.....sorry will post back

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Both connections from one router Draytek 2850n

Talk Talk ADSL
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...10-08-2012.png
http://www.pingtest.net/result/67761774.png

VM
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...10-08-2012.png
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2012/08/28.png
http://www.pingtest.net/result/67761936.png

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

this is my most recent

[img]Download Failed (1)[/img]


anyone explain the high increase during the early hours?

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Downloading?

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

yeah I was downloading a wee bit, does uploading also cause the increase?

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

If you saturate your bandwidth either way it will increase your latency because the ping packets will be delayed if there is no space for them. Your router is also working harder while downloading so it may not be as quick to respond to ping requests.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Uploading causes a bigger increase

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

I thought that was the case but was not sure, is it down to the fact that your far more likely to use all of your upstream bandwidth or?

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

It's unusual for me to disagree with Pabs - but ....

A use free night time is also a quiet night time elsewhere. So that doesn't tell you anything. What was needed was a couple of hours doing nothing in Dwarven's network at peak time. The graph difference would be instructuve.

In any case the high maximum ping times is likely where Dwarven's lags occur.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Strange how the ping monitor can ping my superhub as im on the vmng 300 and the superhub is deactivated very strange

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...0-08-2012.html

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Either your IP never changed when you switched (which would be happen if you were using the Superhub in modem mode and switched to the VMNG300) or someone else has been allocated that IP address.

Not strange at all :p

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Just got the superhub today. It is in modem mode and there appears to be a improvement.

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...11-08-2012.png

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

[img]Download Failed (1)[/img]

can someone help explain wth is going on here,,,

There is no usage on my Home network....... Why are the minimums bouncing around too?

Its less than a year after a segmentation job and its already like this ?? Really?

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Had an early night last night, not feeling very well :(, so network was not used from about 8pm last night til 10am this morning see graph below

[img]Download Failed (1)[/img]

Thoughts?

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

So, there we have two samples. The top when you're busy on the network in the evening, the bottom when you're not.

On the two graphs, were you busy during the afternoon as well?

Assuming (maybe not correctly) that others on your segment were behaving the same on the two days, then you can draw your own conclusions. There was packet loss in the afternoon of yesterday's graph.

It seems to me that your impact on the network as seen in your TBB graph is noticeable on average appearance. But when you weren't on yesterday, strange stuff was happening at 10 pm. It seems to me that had you been feeling well, you'd have had a bad experience yesterday due to external forces.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Seph,

Regarding the packet loss, first of the three the superhub just rebooted of its own accord, the other 2 major ones were when I fired up WoW and the background downloader kicked in immediately followed by the superhub rebooting, despite R36 supposedly fixing this issue - I have asked the question on VM forums regarding this.

Ive been unwell for quite a while now and my usage is pretty much just playing either SWTOR or WoW and yes looking at that graph 10pm last night would not have been a fun time to be playing.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Here is Mine :(

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...11-08-2012.png

Hopefully getting fixed today.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Dwarven

Sorry to learn your unwellness is not a blip. All the more reason to have decent internet.

Despite the likes of Hugh commenting on criticism of the superhuib as being the writer's own opinion (which I would have thought as being anyway in the realms of the bleedin' obvious), if you are in router mode, you can expect unexpected resets. In router mode it is a wretched device and VM have spent the best part of two years being unable to fix it.

So, modem mode is quite stable - my own experience and widely reported so. You put your own router on and no more reboots. That said, if you're already in modem mode, then it's even more wretched - it shouldn't reboot of its own accord nor set a condition requiring it to reboot.

But, a stable system won't cure your spikes and lags. We get that here on a very good service. Sometines the upstream slot just isn't available when you move or fire a shot or something and it lags. When that happens (to my son), I simply switch the circuit to BT Infinity which never lags (I'm blessed with both Infinity & VM 50).

I don't know where you'll go from here - but my advice in this case is sound.

Cheers

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Seph,

Cheers for that mate, Ive been putting off going to modem mode for a while, to be fair I never really had any issues with the superhub as a router until recently, but I guess it gives me something to pass the time :)


Dwarven

Typical, superhub rebooted as I typed the above, guess it didnt like me paying it a compliment lol

Just checked VM website, apparantly a fault in my area as of 10.30am this morning, engineer on site at the moment fixing it, so that probably explains that last reboot

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Partly, and partly because there are much bigger buffers on the upstream so you end up with much higher pings at the same usage level

---------- Post added at 14:38 ---------- Previous post was at 14:37 ----------

a) We can't see your graph because you haven't shared it

b) Minimums have nothing to do with usage (except in fault situations)

c) Less than a year? Resegmentation jobs rarely last more than a few weeks around where I live.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Sorry if this thread is for 50MB only. Here are my graphs from this week and January, apart from high average latency and max latency, I think they moved me over to a less congested channel during the upgrade to 100MB.

100MB
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...09-08-2012.png

50MB earlier this year
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...12-01-2012.png

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

This thread isn't just for 50Mb, it's for all speeds on VM (gawd knows why they keep posting infinity results then ;) ) but the superhub enabled speeds tend to dominate ;)

Welcome to the site

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

In my immodest capacity as "gawd", I posted my Infinity results as a matter of adjacent interest. A bit more information for dégustation.

Peops do like to have that bit more information.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Fine to post it once as a comparison, but others do keep repeating it ;) :p:

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Thanks Kymmy :), I saw 50M in the title and thought it was limited to 50MB TBB graphs. Infinity graphs tickle my fancy and I think it's great having a scope of both.