Originally Posted by borrissey (Post 35058554)

It is going to be £7 per box for everyone VM engineer just told me.

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35058635)

Just hope it doesn't go as a Hd premium with Sky Sports 1 and 2 HD won't be happy if that happens.

Originally Posted by gadge (Post 35058640)

Okay chaps calm down take a chill remember film 4 hd starts tomorrow,yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss sssssssssssss.:D:D

Originally Posted by LEE1 (Post 35058643)

do you think the place holders for the hd channels will come on the epg tomorrow aswell as film 4hd

Originally Posted by jtaylor06 (Post 35058649)

It could be a surprise just like Five HD was.

Oo, got an idea.
Wouldn't it be better to do a new channels or upcoming channels channel on 996 to let customers know what channels have been added or upcoming? :)

Originally Posted by jagsman (Post 35055617)

The negotiations between SKY and Virgin probably went something like this;

Sky: we have to shaft BT with this OFCOM thing
Virgin: yes, but how?
Sky: let them announce their pricing, then we'll up the wholesale cost
Virgin: great, as long as we get a good deal with the HD
Sky: about that. You have to stop saying HD is free with you lot
Virgin: we need to try and get more subscribers for our phone and broadband, so we bum up the TV side to make it look good
SKY: all we get from our subscribers is moans that you lot dont charge for HD, so why do we
Virgin: why dont you just get rid of the HD sub?
Sky: f**k off! its a sodding goldmine. We will never get rid of it.
Virgin: right, gives us a good deal for the premium HD stuff, and we'll charge for that, but you will have to buy our VMTV channels for a good price.
Sky: OK, we'll buy your channels and you start charging for HD. everyones a winner.
Sky: better still, make the charge "per box", that would be the ultimate mindf**k. Do that, and we'll throw in SS news HD when it launches
Virgin: great you've got yourselves a deal
Sky: (on the phone) hello....Mr Murdoch. We've got them to start charging for their HD, bought their channels, and we're all going to increase prices this year before we add in the VAT rise in January. happy days

Originally Posted by jagsman (Post 35058655)

Just as I predicted

Originally Posted by jagsman (Post 35058655)

Just as I predicted

Originally Posted by leeoy3005 (Post 35058657)

however the bloke i spoke too looked very much like this :- :dunce:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35058662)

£7 charge per box confirmed on the VM forums:

http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...p/95915#M14253

Originally Posted by mattb00thers (Post 35058632)

Gosh people are slow on here. I was the first to post about Sky Sports News Hd launching. Then between the 2 hours of posting and now ppl have been saying ssky sports news launches on virgin. KEEP UP!

Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35058666)

well thanks vm for the double wammy on vip customers did not get any discount and charged same for hd only one winner here and it not vm game set and match to sky

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35058676)

Yep get used to it sky are in control now,They will have to start ripping down the no extra cost for HD posters now.:D

Originally Posted by Big Red (Post 35058677)

Note the £7 charge is a forced charge from Sky not a VM money maker.

Originally Posted by Big Red (Post 35058677)

Note the £7 charge is a forced charge from Sky not a VM money maker.

Originally Posted by Big Red (Post 35058677)

Note the £7 charge is a forced charge from Sky not a VM money maker.

Originally Posted by jtaylor06 (Post 35058684)

Go through to retentions and see what deals you can be made ;)

Originally Posted by mattb00thers (Post 35058685)

I have a box upstairs and a box downstairs. Will I say to them I want the box downstairs to have HD?

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35058683)

£29.00 a month to get sky sports and sky sports hd? Shocking! I always thought virgin would rewards those on xl and VIP since we had no price decrease. Sky really are running the show now!

Originally Posted by lewisnadasurf (Post 35058687)

I think you may have to be a little bit more specific i.e. model or serial# i dont think they have cameras in your house!! :D

Originally Posted by Big Red (Post 35058677)

Note the £7 charge is a forced charge from Sky not a VM money maker.

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35058683)

£29.00 a month to get sky sports and sky sports hd? Shocking! I always thought virgin would rewards those on xl and VIP since we had no price decrease. Sky really are running the show now!

Originally Posted by mattb00thers (Post 35058688)

For the full sky sports you should be paying:

Sky Sports Complete Pack £20.50

Sky HD Premium charge £7.00

= £27.50

Why are you paying £29.00?

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:shocked::erm: (Looks round for small cracks in wall)

Originally Posted by Big Red (Post 35058691)

Remember Sky still charge £10 amonth for HD and if you think about it, we are getting the remaining Sky BASIC HD channels free (XL/VIP customer)

So if were getting SKY BASIC HD channels for free/no extra cost then that shows the HD pack Sky charge really covers its Sky Sports and Movies.

Taking that Sky charge £25.50 for Sports and Movies £27.50 from 1st Sept add your £10 HD for Prem Channels total £37.50 and they get 2 more channels called Sky Sports 3/4 HD.

I agree it would of being nice for VM to discount the XL/VIP customers but they are giving us Free ESPN and all Current HD channels and future Sky Basic at no extra cost

Originally Posted by Big Red (Post 35058696)

I'm just glad VM can offer these Prem HD channels

Originally Posted by gadge (Post 35058692)

Just tried to order the lady would have none of it told me ring back tomorrow.

Originally Posted by Henkesghost (Post 35058697)

Ok this is 100% definate, despite calling this morning and getting nowhere called again ok the advice of big red. They added the HD channels to my account for £7 they said they will come on in august but don't know exact date but should be 1st wk

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35058701)

Final question till I depart... How much more are the movies on top of the sport package on xl? Only have sports but if I ever order the hd channels drunk one night I might as well have the hd movie channels

Originally Posted by gumpy321 (Post 35058705)

Not the news is was waiting to hear but it's simple, I shall not be paying £7 for two extra HD channels.:)

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35058701)

Final question till I depart... How much more are the movies on top of the sport package on xl? Only have sports but if I ever order the hd channels drunk one night I might as well have the hd movie channels

Originally Posted by TheDon (Post 35058690)

That maybe, but M and L customers can now take the HD channels for just £1 more than they were paying for the SD versions last month.

The price decrease on Sky Sports and Movies means that in relative terms HD is costing XL customers £6 more than L and M, so it might not be a VM money maker, but it's sure as hell a way for them to **** off their customers. If XL's pricing for premiums had been reduced in line with the other tiers then no one would be arguing a net increase of £1 for HD versions, instead we're getting the double shafting of a devalued TV package (especially those on VIP) with a nice bit increase if you want to watch in HD.

Originally Posted by mattb00thers (Post 35058685)

I have a box upstairs and a box downstairs. Will I say to them I want the box downstairs to have HD?

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35058713)

You give them the smartcard number of the box you want it on.

Originally Posted by Big Red (Post 35058696)

I'm just glad VM can offer these Prem HD channels

Originally Posted by trevrpb (Post 35058715)

Absolutely. And I for one WILL be paying the £7 to watch SS HD1&2.

As I posted previously, I've have never expected something for nothing, even though I was hoping, that as an XL pack sub and existing SS sub, that I would not have pay any extra. At no point have Virgin said that there would be no additional charge for the HD variant of the Premium channels. Those that keep quoting the NO fee for HD just doesn't wash as that advertising is for the packages applicable at the time. SS & SM HD is going to be additional broadcasts that are now going to be available and therefore new advertising will make it clear where a 'charge' is now applicable.

If your not happy with the charge, then don't pay it. Quite a simple choice.

Originally Posted by trevrpb (Post 35058715)

Absolutely. And I for one WILL be paying the £7 to watch SS HD1&2.

As I posted previously, I've have never expected something for nothing, even though I was hoping, that as an XL pack sub and existing SS sub, that I would not have pay any extra. At no point have Virgin said that there would be no additional charge for the HD variant of the Premium channels. Those that keep quoting the NO fee for HD just doesn't wash as that advertising is for the packages applicable at the time. SS & SM HD is going to be additional broadcasts that are now going to be available and therefore new advertising will make it clear where a 'charge' is now applicable.

If your not happy with the charge, then don't pay it. Quite a simple choice.

Originally Posted by mattb00thers (Post 35058719)

BUT MY MUM IS DETERMINED SHE WONT ADD IT TO OUR SERVICE :(:(

Originally Posted by trevrpb (Post 35058715)

Absolutely. And I for one WILL be paying the £7 to watch SS HD1&2.

As I posted previously, I've have never expected something for nothing, even though I was hoping, that as an XL pack sub and existing SS sub, that I would not have pay any extra. At no point have Virgin said that there would be no additional charge for the HD variant of the Premium channels. Those that keep quoting the NO fee for HD just doesn't wash as that advertising is for the packages applicable at the time. SS & SM HD is going to be additional broadcasts that are now going to be available and therefore new advertising will make it clear where a 'charge' is now applicable.

If your not happy with the charge, then don't pay it. Quite a simple choice.

Originally Posted by Big Red (Post 35058675)

OK

My personnel choice but I have just added the SkySports and Movies HD channels to my V+HD box for £7 per month (I'm on a VIP Package)

VM are now taking pre orders today with the official details to be released tomorrow/ detail are given over the phone when you call now but £7 is 100% for all customer wanting these HD channels.

1) The £7 covers Prem HD Sky Sports and Sky Movie Channels
2) If you only subscribe to either Movies or Sports then it will still be £7.
3) Its £7 per box (Optional boxes i.e. you do not have to take on all boxes you choose which one)
3) Channels go live date is 2nd Aug.

Sky BASIC HD channels will be added to XL TV this will include Sky Sports News HD at no extra cost - Dates yet to be confirmed for Sky BASIC HD channels as we already have the Sports News Date.

Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35058726)

Well I've been conned, I pay for Movies and Sports and have to pay even more to get them in HD, well I'm gonna cancel Movies & Sports ASAP

Originally Posted by Big Red (Post 35058728)

at the end of the day your not going to get Sky Sports/Movies in HD without paying for it.

Originally Posted by mattb00thers (Post 35058729)

Rumour it was a mistake by DS and where it said Sky Virgin and Talk Talk TV- It meant them for the SD varient!

Has been changed

SORRY GUYS! WE MAY NOT GET SKY SPORTS NEWS HD AFTERALL.

Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35058726)

Well I've been conned, I pay for Movies and Sports and have to pay even more to get them in HD, well I'm gonna cancel Movies & Sports ASAP

Originally Posted by Big Red (Post 35058728)

Like I said its going to be a personnel choice - at the end of the day your not going to get Sky Sports/Movies in HD without paying for it.

Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35058726)

Well I've been conned, I pay for Movies and Sports and have to pay even more to get them in HD, well I'm gonna cancel Movies & Sports ASAP

Originally Posted by mattb00thers (Post 35058719)

I will be quite happy to pay £7 for HD 1 and 2 because of the prem league. BUT MY MUM IS DETERMINED SHE WONT ADD IT TO OUR SERVICE :(:(

Originally Posted by jodash (Post 35058739)

just spoke CS and was told that VM had sold there TV service to Sky and need to speak to them,when I asked what VM would now supply was told a broadband and TV service only,now on to another person who said they did not know anything about it

Originally Posted by krazy (Post 35058734)

exactly. when virgin contacted me "inviting" me to join VIP as i was "one of their best customers" (lol) i asked whether they would be getting any movie or sports hd to which i was assured they would eventually and when i asked would i have to pay extra they said "no, unlike sky we dont charge for hd".

Originally Posted by jodash (Post 35058739)

just spoke CS and was told that VM had sold there TV service to Sky and need to speak to them,when I asked what VM would now supply was told a broadband and TV service only,now on to another person who said they did not know anything about it

Originally Posted by GordonD (Post 35058743)

They have sold their tv channels only, such as Living & Bravo. This does not affect any other part of the VM business.

Originally Posted by The Yank (Post 35058742)

you cetainly aren't the only one mislead into signing for the VIP pack thougn VM employees will defend it to the hilt. :(

Originally Posted by Big Red (Post 35058728)

Like I said its going to be a personnel choice - at the end of the day your not going to get Sky Sports/Movies in HD without paying for it.

Originally Posted by Hom3r

Why should I have to pay an additional £7 per month on top of what I pay for Sky Sports/Movies

Originally Posted by Ray.uk (Post 35058738)

And who is this "personnel" that is going to choose for me.lol

Originally Posted by krazy (Post 35058734)

exactly. when virgin contacted me "inviting" me to join VIP as i was "one of their best customers" (lol) i asked whether they would be getting any movie or sports hd to which i was assured they would eventually and when i asked would i have to pay extra they said "no, unlike sky we dont charge for hd".

Originally Posted by jab1990 (Post 35058748)

Shocking news for VIP customers. They should reduce the tariff.

Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35058751)

Exactly Why I will be caneling Sky Sports/Movies.

Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35058751)

Exactly Why I will be caneling Sky Sports/Movies.

Originally Posted by krazy (Post 35058756)

ive been VIP since March, is it possible for me to cancel any part of it?

Originally Posted by mattb00thers (Post 35058707)

I have just thought - Even though I know you wont get the HD channels for lets say movies on their own without the SD varients. Imagine, You pay £7 for Sky Sports HD and on Aug 2nd you strangly get the HD movies aswell. LOL THAT WOULD BE A FUNNY MISTAKE BY VIRGIN.

Originally Posted by Ben B (Post 35058730)

No, at the end of the day, it's night :D

Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35058751)

Exactly Why I will be caneling Sky Sports/Movies.

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35058758)

People are going on about bad deal for xl bad deal for VIP my thinking Is this it's an awful deal for sky sports only subscribers. Seven pounds for movies and sports in HD isn't to bad but 7.00 for two channels is taking the ****. The end result will be football fans back to Sky in there droves.

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35058763)

Premium HD has always been free with Virgin. ESPN HD is certainly a premium channel and was added at no cost to XL / VIP customers. I think this is why so many people are angry at this sudden change policy from Virgin. Making SKY Movies HD and SKY Sports HD avaliable to it's customers should have been a great moment for Virgin but instead it's turning into a nightmare. I think the upset customers out number the happy ones by a 10 to 1.

It doesn't matter how many times Virgin try to explain it away, the HD is free advertising campaign will bite them in the bum big time. Too many people feel misled. It's certainly not going to improve customer loyalty.

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35058758)

The end result will be football fans back to Sky in there droves.

Originally Posted by Ben B (Post 35058765)

I don't think so, people have coped with SD only with the mentality that we will never have the Sky HD channels for ages

Originally Posted by Ben B (Post 35058765)

I don't think so, people have coped with SD only with the mentality that we will never have the Sky HD channels for ages

Originally Posted by mattb00thers (Post 35058772)

When Sky drop the HD charge - The only thing keeping me with Virgin is the fact Sky have call out fees of up to £50 were you get them free on Virgin.

Originally Posted by mattb00thers (Post 35058772)

When Sky drop the HD charge - The only thing keeping me with Virgin is the fact Sky have call out fees of up to £50 were you get them free on Virgin.

Originally Posted by ian1969uk (Post 35058773)

Well, I for one don't see what the fuss is about.

It's £7, the price of a couple of pints.

Pay it or don't, but quit whining.....