Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

They were never going to get Sky HD. It amazes me how many people seemed to think they would/will any time soon.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

I have just found this on Sky Sports.com

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,195...436945,00.html

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

So does that mean all 4 old firm games on sky sports or 2?

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

Why do you say that ?

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

... or 3. That'll be Sky Sports' choice at the time of each match. I don't think their Extra or Interactive (not available on VM) feeds do HD yet, but they could change that.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

I think Barney Francis was talking about Sky Sports as he say later on in that story on Sky Sports.com:

Then at the end it says:

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

Because they're a major selling point in Sky's view, and they're not going to make them available to competitors unless Ofcom (and several appeals to the courts) force them to.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

There are several things l am not happy about, according to VM there should have been 'seven' HD channels coming, instead we get four, and we have been waiting months for this, what about ITVHD, l can never understand VM, the customers are demanding other HD channels plus Sky, but all we get is channels, that customers don't watch, Also the SFL have sorted out the ESPN deal, and yet again VM is behind, what the hell is happening.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

VM are planning on more HD channels appearing before the end of the year.

You might not watch the channels that are launching in HD but they are some of the most popular channels.

What makes you think VM are behind? just because Sky has agreed a deal already. VM could still be negotiating and trying to get a better deal than what Sky got.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

Its weird, haven't really watched Nat Geo before, but have been looking at the channel in prep for HD and have found that its actually very good, it beats the Discovery channels that I normally watch :blush:

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

In fact, Teletext was on cable - NTL at least - from the beginning, but was pulled around 2004. Only a handful of the original "TV Internet" services live on, including ITN and Bloomberg. Deceased services of note include Guardian Unlimited and Radio Times. [1]

I suspect you're thinking of the "text" button on the remote control, which as far as I know has never done anything. I wonder whether it was originally intended to launch an "analogue" teletext interpreter. It's exceedingly unlikely that the button couldn't be remapped as a trigger, but since the BBC and perhaps Nat Geo would be the only ones to use it I doubt VM think it's worth the effort - all the text content is available under the red button (and, unique to VM - at least, in terms of platforms with any substantial amount of users - on any channel through the Interactive menu) and on other platforms carrying BBC Red Button the text button does exactly the same thing as the red button.

Since it's relevant to my post, I ought to point out that Sky Text and Sky Active work a little differently - "text" on a Sky channel (on Sky and Freeview) will take you to Sky Text, and red on a Sky channel (on Sky) takes you to a version of the Sky Active portal.

Sam

[1] http://teletext.mb21.co.uk/gallery/digital/ntl2.shtml

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

As has been said before, ITV HD is tied into a contract with Freesat, and there are set to be more HD channels launched by the end of the year.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

ITV HD and Channel 4 HD would be nice. Wish we were going to get them first and getting Sky1 HD well thats just a pipe dream

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

Gems TV 2 to closed on July 31st.

GemsTV2 will closing on 31st July and is set to be replaced Gems TV's Deal of the Day on Virgin Channel 756.

Info from Shoppingtelly.com

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

How are we going to manage with being able to get our quality gems from only a single channel :shocked:

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

lol

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

I think you will find that this is a typo. The change over is actualy a reaction to the Swine Flu Pandemic the new channel is actualy "Germs TV" and is the official government first line of defence. ;)

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

isn't that an anti-nazi channel fred fish?

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

Military History to be added in September, got the info from customer sales

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

CS lie all the time until it annocued offically, or testing or a insider meantions it dnt believe it

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

Bound to have some BUGS to iron out. :D

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

If this happens where will everybody go to get their Diamondnique, Rubyique, Plastique, Opalique, Crappolaique and the most sort after of all imitationique?
Have the powers that be thought this through properly? just Gems 1 and QVC, is that really enough to handle the nations need for imitation crap when the recession ends?;)

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

Another blow for glass manufacturers. Not only is the market for double glazing / replacement doors diminishing but what a hammer blow that the market for ***** jewellery is affected too. :)

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

How much more lifelike is The Simpsons in HD? ;)

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

My ex-NTL/ex-CW is still on 31 TS Streams and recently, over a period of weeks, dropped from 309 channels to 299 and up to 300 again.

There is still a fairly sizeable differential between your configuration and mine. Surely as analogue is phased out and the channel lineup on ex-NTL and ex-TW merge we should be seeing similar numbers in all areas on all platforms.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

The four additional HD channels will be available from August 1st. The PictureBox service HD films will increase to around 75% of their films within the first year. Confirmation on ESPN is expected shortly. And there may be more additional HD channels (Eurosport and History?) available October/November.

http://vmhd.blogspot.com/

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

Well then he's been stealing from you (and me) for four years so you really should report him. :td:

Theft of this nature either directly affects the price we pay for our services or stifles the development of the network. VM might have been able to offer some services such as additional channels, HD and faster broadband sooner, if they had the revenue from these parasites. :mad:

And don't listen to the "I wouldn't have paid for the extra channels anyway" excuse. :(

Put a pin through his co-ax! Who's he gonna call? :D {No don't do that. Really, don't. I just said that for comic effect.}

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

I really hope we get the extra 2 HD channels, not just cos i really want Eurosport HD but for VM to be able to say "We offer Movies sport and documentaries in HD" is a pretty nice marketing strategy!

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

I've just put a pin through my neighbours cable. Thanks for the tip. :D

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

great news. Not long to wait, although I can't view them at the moment at least I can get the EPG and see if it is worth upgrading

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

This week list is now online - see post one.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

Do we know what they are holding onto channel 113 for? Living2 is on 112 but Living2 +1 is on 160 rather than 113.

I feel a renumbering coming on, once the new HD and other channels settle down, possibly early next year.

It is hard to come up with an ideal numbering scheme which groups like channels together, caters for +1 and HD channels and still reserves numbers or groups of numbers for certain channels (e.g. BBC1..4; ITV1..4; the C4 suite; the Five suite; Sky1..3; Virgin; Living etc.). We'll see what they come up with.

I'll miss Living +2. :(

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

Where did you get that info? Living HD isn't meant to be launching till around September with the first 3 channels coming at the end of July.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

virginmedia@callumheald Hi Callum - we can't give you an exact date yet, but they are scheduled for w/c 27/7 - all except Living HD which will be Sept. tht my twitter acount hint maybe lol

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

Hmm! Care to expand on how you achieved that? I already have XL TV and unlimited phone but I'm looking to lever a bit more from VM such as V+ or a second box at a favourable cost.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

It now look like Gems TV1 may not be with us for long:

http://tellychannelsnews.blogspot.co...owners-in.html

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

Noooo! :Yikes: I didn't mean to incite 'direct action'. Now he'll key your car, you'll poison his cat, he'll cut down your Leylandii on that disputed property boundary, you'll torch his house ... where will it all end! :shocked:

Which all goes to prove that too much TV breeds violence! ;)

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

mediaboy, you should update post1 to say the hd channels launch on mon 27th july as stated in vm's twitter page.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

I think ''Before mid August'' will do for now as ''Call'' posted

As my old teacher says ''W/C means anytime in that week from date given.''

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

atleast we now know its within that week

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

Which is up till the 31st July. Well before the Middle of August!

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

Well, I had TV(L) and Phone (L) and 10 meg BB along with V+ and an additional box. I asked the nice lady at VM if I could upgrade for the price online and she said that it was only for new customers. I told her that I really wanted to upgrade to TV(XL) because I wanted the additional HD channels along with Phone (XL). She put me on hold for quite a while then came back and said I could have the lot (inc the boxes I had) for less than I was paying already, although I did include in my calcs the average p/m I was paying for my daytime phone calls. But in the end it all worked out cheaper.

What can I say................I'm a smooth talking son of a ......................... . I deserve this price I've been with them for eons. :D

P.S. the police along with a VM van have just pulled up to my neighbours house and arrested him. A pin was seen to be placed in a plastic bag by the nice policeman as they departed. :shocked:

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

A pin?

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

No prints or DNA on that pin I hope. :erm: Criminal damage to VM property may be a more serious offence than theft of service. :nono:

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

Thanks for given out the dates.

An new List update now online - see post one.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

MB, some comments on your listing in post 1 ...

I take it you mean Channel 533 not 553. So ESPN America will be replaced?

I take it you mean some areas rather than same (which is kind of the opposite of what you are trying to say).

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

553 is the channel number I have for ESPN on Virgin TV.

Sorry I did not note that before:dig:

---------- Post added at 16:33 ---------- Previous post was at 16:20 ----------

More areas going Digital only.

More areas of Virgin Media will be going Digital only on September 1st.

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/34837558-post130.html

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

People asking for Five HD in the next batch of channels will be disappointed. Five HD isn't broadcasting til 2nd half 2010 *at the earliest*!

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

Knowing our luck, that may just right for us getting a second batch of channels :D

Looking forward to next week if the first ones are launching then

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

There some speculation it might not launch at all or if it does it will be quite postponed due ot the recession, recession aint the reason it might be cancelled i tihnk it to do with freeview

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

I doubt there's much to do with the recession.

Basically five got the worst freeview HD license, which lets them launch one when bandwidth allows, and seeing as how the multiplex has only 30mbps of bandwidth, it's going to be a long long time before the technology improves enough to launch the 4 HD channels on the single multiplex that's set aside for them. Cramming just 3 into there is going to result in them having a pretty poor bitrate.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

No i said i think the recession will delay it past mid 2010, but cancleled might be becaue five can not wait until they get space so just abanond there plans for hd channel, unless there have to do it by law?

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

I watch Five USA a lot and it is noticeable how little advertising they have had since the beginning of the year. They've been putting out musical fillers in the commercial breaks reminiscent of the early days of Channel 4. I don't know if Fiver is the same but supporting three channels plus Demand Five might make launching a HD service a low priority for them until things pick up, unless they can sell HD on some exclusive deal as ITV have done with FreeSat. It doesn't look promising for their Milkshake kiddies channel either unless they can swing some Christmas toy advertising revenue. (Yes, it's that time of year already!)

Does that make sense or am I talking :clap:?

{I wish I had seen the other posts that were made while I was writing this :doh:}

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

Setanta Sports UK fall out: Virgin Media removed Setanta Sports channels from lineup.

Virgin Media has today removed Setanta Sports News, Setanta Sports 1, Setanta Sports 2, Setanta Golf, Celtic TV and Rangers TV from their Channel lineup.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

I have just been going through the channel guide on the v+ box and have also noticed the test channels but they are showing no info ... these are just above the AD channels on 891,892,893 has anybody got any idea what these are as i have been reading through the previous post and it says that you are only able to see the tests on certain boxes?

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

Ah! That accounts for six of the seven channels that disappeared over night. I was at 300 channels briefly but now down to 293. What was the other one I wonder?

I don't get to see test channels on my Pace Di4000-N standard V Box.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

I can see them on my EPG on my V+ but can't click on them it says I need to subscribe.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

They are now testing in my area (Ex-Telewest).

Can I tell everyone who is posting for the next few hours to add your Ex network before 2007. (Ex-CW, Ex-ntl or Ex-Telewest)

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

They're on mine, ex-telewest.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

If the tests is only on Ex-Telewest boxes it maybe some of the channels that only broadcast on Ex-ntl right now or Virgin are testing the channels out for the three HD Channels that are due to launch next week.

If they are also on Ex-ntl areas someone at Virgin did not press the right button.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

I'm ex-telewest

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

I have just work out what the test are for.

Test is called VMTest1, VMTest2 and VMTest3 and is the names Virgin are using for the HD Channels that are testing in Ex-NTL areas.

You will see them being removed when Virgin add the HD Channels next week,

Virgin did this before back in 2006 when the Baby Channel was about to launch in Telewest areas.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

oh crap, nothing to see here

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

will be gd saying theres more than one hd channel instead of saying the hd channel hope they are here next week :)

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

Something new download for the epg or software on 16 july

new channels
channel 555 epg preview 2 - no epg or video
channel 891 vmtest 1 - test schedules - hd channels (cant determine what excately since my box is sd only)
channel 892 vmtest 2 - test schedules - hd channels (cant determine what excately since my box is sd only)
channel 893 vmtest 3 - test schedules - hd channels (cant determine what excately since my box is sd only)

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

Not currently testing here (Ex-C&W)

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

Yes it said the same to me but if you input the number then click ok they will take you to channels where they are showing the same as on channel 118 .

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

An Virgin Media viewer has pm me today with new information on Channels testing on Ex-C&W boxes.

VMTest1 - not broadcasting
VMTest2 - National Geographic HD
VMTest3 - not broadcasting
VMTest4 - not broadcasting
VMTest5 - not broadcasting
VMTest6 - not broadcasting

BBCHD = 17.6Mbps bitrate, 1920x1080i, 2.0/5.1 448kbps AC3 Audio.
National Geographic HD = 15.0Mbps bitrate, 1920x1080i, 5.1 384kbps AC3 audio. Probably 2.0 for some documentaries. Screenshot - http://i32.tinypic.com/2vrvqs1.png

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

So STILL testing 6 Channels... woop woop... Europsort HD Maybe :) :) :)

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

I think VMTest 4 - VMTest 6 are just for Virgin to add more HD Channels at the later date.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

I know but one of them could be Eurosport - i'm being positive for once MB don't kill my buzz man ;) :p

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

Sorry. :D

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

I have now added ex-NTL/ex-CW to my profile (see left panel). I thought it was already in there so sorry for omitting it in my earlier posting.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

It look like Virgin are working today on the test for the new HD Channels that are due to launch next week as I have now got more info from that Virgin viewer in the Ex-C&W area:

VMTest4 - MTVHD

BBCHD = 17.6Mbps bitrate, 1920x1080i, 2.0/5.1 448kbps AC3 Audio.
National Geographic HD = 15.0Mbps bitrate, 1920x1080i, 5.1 384kbps AC3 audio. Probably 2.0 for some documentaries. Screenshot -
http://i32.tinypic.com/2vrvqs1.png
MTVHD = 15.0Mbps bitrate, 1920x1080i, 2.0 384kbps AC3 Audio, possibly 5.1 for some music video/concerts. Screenshot - http://i26.tinypic.com/28sqbdy.png

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

Sorry did not notice earlier but i live in a ex-telewest area

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

You can now stop telling you Cable area.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

wow music in HD on MTV HD cant wait :D:D:D

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

You can still see the same as 118 all you need to do is enter the channel number when you have not got the mini guide up . After reading your post i thought that i would check as i have got a v+ box and also a v box so before my previous posts i should have checked both the boxes:sorry::sorry:

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

After following this thread in its many forms for a long long time I have decided to add my first post, So hello all.:wavey::wavey:
On the subject of the hd channels I have been waiting patiently for the price to come down on the tv's before investing in the equipment and then waiting for news of channels to arrive on virgin. Now the channels are arriving i think i will make the switch fairly soon. The announced channels will do me fine for now (accept mtv, I have never been one for music vidoes, if I a want music i have an mp3 player for that) and the hd content in vod is not bad.
However am i being thick in thinking that at least 2 of the four channels annouced belong to skys parent company (news corparation)? Does anyone think that this may mean that the boys at news corp may be seeing that its better to get the channels out on all platforms and maximize revenue thru wholesale values for the channels rather than have them as a sky exclusive? i know it will be a long time before we see the sky branded hd channels on virgin but maybe any other hd channels that sky has a hand in or has them tied to exclusive deals may be coming in the future.:eh:
On another note I wonder if we will ever get the sky player on virgin (lol) now that would be a coup.:LOL:
Anyway thanks for letting me waffle but what does anyone else think?:blah::blah:

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

No dont need sky player vms vod is far more superior.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

We need the content that's available on it though.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

I think the slaps a bit much especially to a first time post. :shocked: I agree vm's vod is far superior and I use it most weekends during the day (not just to catch up on things)
If you look at what i said it was meant to be sarcastic (as if sky would give virgin acces to the only good content it has on demand)
But as TheDon says we could do with the content. Surley more vod content is better and I for one would happily watch a full series of Stargate atlantis or 24 on vod rather than splash out on the dvds ( as i enjoy them but not enough to shell out the £30+ for the box set)
Anyway each to their own i suppose.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

Get v+ box then and record the full series direct from sky1

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

God what is this have a dig at the newbie?
I am planning to upgrade all at once (new tv and v+ box) when the contract with vm runs out you never know i might be able to get another good deal with them( i did last year)

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

The slaps been in my sig for months.;)Nothing towards you fella.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

Sorry :sorry: didn't mean it to come across that way.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

sorry been one of those days where i seem to have caught the flak from everyone ;)

---------- Post added at 22:14 ---------- Previous post was at 22:12 ----------

apologie accepted. see post above. think i'm being oversensitve.:hugs:

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

im aware but it prventing me seeign them all i can tell if tehre hd channels also i was looking at them in the engineer menu on samsung 2110, but ic an view them on teh v+ hwne i posted i was jsut giving the ifnormaiton i had form teh engineer menu (viewing with epg was tried when it rebooted)

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

An Virgin Media viewer pm me tonight has they noticed on the Geo TV's website that they are or will be in discussion with Virgin Media regarding their channels.

http://www.geo.tv/geopages/faqs.htm

Wikipedia says Geo TV is own by ''Independent Media Corporation''

If Virgin do sign an deal them we may get:

GEO UK
AAG
GEO News

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

I think the toner in your keyboard in runing out.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

Cheers, yet again Cable forum has helped me solve a problem. Keyboard toner all replaced now and look at the results. Colour :D

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

Dammit I want a colour keyboard, I'm stuck with this black and white one :(

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

Tests appear for FX HD in Ex-CW areas.

VMTest1 - not broadcasting
VMTest2 - National Geographic HD
VMTest3 - FX HD
VMTest4 - MTVNHD
VMTest5 - not broadcasting
VMTest6 - not broadcasting

BBCHD = 17.6Mbps bitrate, 1920x1080i, 2.0/5.1 448kbps AC3 Audio.
National Geographic HD = 15.0Mbps bitrate, 1920x1080i, 5.1 384kbps AC3 audio. Probably 2.0 for some documentaries. Screenshot - http://i32.tinypic.com/2vrvqs1.png
MTVHD = 15.0Mbps bitrate, 1920x1080i, 2.0 384kbps AC3 Audio, possibly 5.1 for some music video/concerts. Screenshot - http://i26.tinypic.com/28sqbdy.png[/]
FX HD = 15.0Mbps bitrate, 1920x1080i, 2.0 384kbps AC3 audio, possibly 5.1 for some shows. Screenshot: http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/4448/fxhd.png

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

July 22, 2009
Live football in HD on Virgin Media
Tucked away towards the end of Danielle Nagler's latest blog post is the news that the BBC's weekend coverage of Championship* football next season will be broadcast in HD, starting August 8th. Hurrah! Now can we please have ITV HD before the Champions League and FA Cup kick off?

Hey have just seen this on the vmhd.blogspot and also have read the bbc hd blog of which it does state that football will be broadcast in hd .
http://vmhd.blogspot.com/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcintern...den_on_hd.html

this the link for the championship page where it shows which game they will be showing there are not many but at least they will be shown in hd

http://www.football-league.co.uk/page/TVGamesDetail/

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

The BBC has the rights to show TEN Championship games, with some of the old 'Coca-Cola' Cup games per season.

---------- Post added at 14:48 ---------- Previous post was at 14:34 ----------

Setanta Sports UK fall out: Arsenal TV look set to be axe by Arsenal.

http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/b...003789.article

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

any news on Liverpool fc TV carrying on vm

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

Dnt you mean liverpool fc tv carrying on at all no matter what platform?

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

LFC TV channel number on Sky is not for sale - and I have not seen anything the LFC TV and Virgin Media.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

Setanta Sports UK fall out - Media Boy EXCLUSIVE: Someone in the know has told me that Racing UK, Arsenal TV, Liverpool FC TV do not need an new deal to carry on broadcasting on Virgin TV and will be on XL Pack until Summer 2010 unless they Closed or Virgin sign an new deal with that broadcaster.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

thanks Media boy for info