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General Maximus

02-02-2021 18:58

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Never watched it. :)

Is that because the dog ate your homework?

The good old days.

Paul	02-02-2021 19:19

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Is that because the dog ate your homework?

I dont like dogs, so that was never an issue. ;)

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Yeah, it was the start of my day during the school summer holidays back in 1993 or 94. Power Rangers at 8:30, X-men at 9 and Saved by the Bell at 9.30. I think they were all on Channel 4.

I would have been at work (Experian) at those times/years. :)

Paul	19-02-2021 17:36

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Netflix are making a series called Wednesday, about the daughter of the Addams family.

CBS are looking at a third FBI series to be called FBI: International.
They currently have FBI: Most Wanted (which I like) and just plain FBI (which I gave up on).

General Maximus

25-02-2021 10:22

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Frasier is being revived and will air sometime next year. Kelsey Grammar is obviously returning and other cast members are TBC.

Paul	25-02-2021 20:47

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Not one for me, never liked it.

General Maximus

25-02-2021 23:24

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One to keep an eye on, a Halo (video game) tv series is in development and due to air next year

https://tvseriesfinale.com/tv-show/h...-to-paramount/

pip08456

26-02-2021 18:00

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This looks interesting.

Shadow and Bone

General Maximus

26-02-2021 21:12

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Criminal Minds is being brought back having only ended last year :rolleyes:

General Maximus

27-02-2021 15:59

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Here's something interesting for you; Terminator is coming back as an anime series

https://tvseriesfinale.com/tv-show/t...ilm-franchise/

Paul	27-02-2021 22:48

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Dont really care for anime.

General Maximus

27-02-2021 23:02

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Me neither. The only animated thing i have ever watched outdide of Disney is Avatar TLA.

pip08456

22-03-2021 08:40

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Kate Kane returns to Batwoman but not as Batwoman.

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Batwoman has a new Kate Kane.

The CW's superhero drama has cast Wallis Day to take over the role that was established by Ruby Rose in season one.

As revealed at the end of Sunday's episode, the character of Kane was revealed to be alive yet unrecognizable due to injuries she sustained in a plane crash at the beginning of season two. She is shown bandaged and being held hostage. The British-born Day (Krypton, The Royals) will play this "altered version" of Kane moving forward.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/li...source=twitter

General Maximus

28-03-2021 12:57

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Stephen

28-03-2021 14:00

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I'll believe it when I see it. They've been talking about a reboot movie and other shows for years.

General Maximus

28-03-2021 14:24

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The Euromillions is £107m on Tuesday. I would love to give him a blank cheque so he can get all the series' creative team, directors and producers back to do whatever they want without interference from MGM or the networks. SG1 and Atlantis are absolutely fantastic and more can only be a good thing.

pip08456

28-03-2021 14:44

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Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 36075591)

Much as you may want MGM out of the way they own the franchise. No MGM, no Stargate.

General Maximus

28-03-2021 19:54

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They can "own" it but I just want no interference. You hear stories all the time of networks or distributors butting in and changing story arcs of season finales. I want the team to have complete autonomy and MGM can handle the distribution side of things. There are so many franchises (e.g. Marvel) that can serve as the perfect example. Leave them to do their thing and you shall reap the rewards.

Chris

28-03-2021 22:42

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Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 36075621)

Marvel’s not such a good example.

All continuity in the MCU is tightly controlled by Marvel Studios. That’s why Kevin Fiege’s name is all over everything, and has been from the outset. Marvel Television’s own record was less than stellar ... Agents of Shield is very much the exception that proves the rule, with Cloak and Dagger, Agent Carter and Inhumans all stuttering thanks to Marvel Television’s difficulty in maintaining control of either the production process, or creative input.

Marvel Television no longer exists, and all new TV output for Disney+ is managed directly by Marvel Studios, with Fiege as executive producer. Which is why it’s so good.

General Maximus

29-03-2021 11:37

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36075627)

All continuity in the MCU is tightly controlled by Marvel Studios.

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36075627)

Cloak and Dagger, Agent Carter and Inhumans all stuttering thanks to Marvel Television’s difficulty in maintaining control of either the production process, or creative input.

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all new TV output for Disney+ is managed directly by Marvel Studios

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Which is why it’s so good.

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Marvel’s not such a good example.

It clearly is and you have just made my point for me. No meddling by the tv networks or Disney and Marvel strikes gold. All I am asking for is the same freedom for any future Stargate series.

Chris

29-03-2021 12:51

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Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 36075663)

It clearly is and you have just made my point for me. No meddling by the tv networks or Disney and Marvel strikes gold. All I am asking for is the same freedom for any future Stargate series.

How does that make your point for you? Marvel Studios is an absolute behemoth, worth $4 billion the day Disney bought it. It's about a gazillion miles away from what you're asking with regards to Stargate, which appears to be that Michael Shanks and his mates be allowed to re-start production on a property owned by MGM, a studio of of comparable value to Marvel, without significant oversight by the studio.

What would be the chances of Robert Downey Jr being allowed to produce an Iron Man prequel TV series in the MCU without close oversight from Feige and his staff at Marvel Studios? Absolute zero. The Marvel films, and the new Marvel TV shows, are a runaway success because Marvel Studios is firmly in control.

That, incidentally, is not a pitch for the studio system, or to claim everything a major studio does is always better than anything produced or exec produced by an actor with a personal stake in a project. Far from it. I just don't recognise the categories you're sketching out here. Marvel Studios' MCU project works because the person in creative control is exceptionally good at what he does. Marvel Television had inconsistent levels of success because the same level of vision and control did not exist there.

Stargate, likewise, would not succeed just because the studio that owns the property is kept at arms length, because there's nothing intrinsically bad about that system of production. It very much depends on who the creative lead is, not which office they're sitting in.

General Maximus

29-03-2021 18:21

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It very much depends on who the creative lead is, not which office they're sitting in.

you once again make my point for me

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The Marvel films, and the new Marvel TV shows, are a runaway success because Marvel Studios is firmly in control.

yup, with no interference from the networks or Disney and now that it has a proven track record (like with GoT and HBO) anybody would be stupid to interfere even if they could because they know it would be to their detriment.

Chris

29-03-2021 18:37

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Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 36075701)

you once again make my point for me

yup, with no interference from the networks or Disney and now that it has a proven track record (like with GoT and HBO) anybody would be stupid to interfere even if they could because they know it would be to their detriment.

Only if your point has changed completely from when you said:

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I want the team to have complete autonomy and MGM can handle the distribution side of things.

On Wandavision, Falcon and the Winter Soldier and everything else going forward, the studio that owns the property *is* the team making the shows. Your vision for Stargate separates the studio that owns the property (MGM) from the team making the show (Gekko Corp, or whoever).

The point of confusion here appears to be the fact that Marvel Studios is no longer an independent entity, but is owned by Disney. I'd suggest that's an irrelevance here because Disney only relatively recently acquired Marvel, which was doing just fine developing the MCU beforehand, and because Disney is not interfering in the process now either. That does not, however, make Marvel Studios equivalent to the minor production company that made Stargate SG-1.

Paul	30-03-2021 01:39

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Ive lost count of how many of these possible comebacks Ive seen for SG, not likely to happen.

pip08456

01-04-2021 14:54

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36075750)

Ive lost count of how many of these possible comebacks Ive seen for SG, not likely to happen.

The rumourmill is strong on this. Here's the latest.

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According to one of our trusted and proven inside sources, the studio wants Kurt Russell to come back for a new Stargate feature film. Our source also says that the studio is hoping that this would kick off a cinematic universe that would include both movies and television shows. We were not able to clarify just how substantial or recurring Russell’s role would be in this newest iteration of the franchise. We aren’t sure if this would act as a way of passing the torch to a new generation or if the plan is to try and have Russell be a central presence in this new arm of the property. All we can confirm is that the studio definitely wants Kurt Russell to be a part of the new Stargate project.

https://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/en...t-russell.html

cimt	02-04-2021 00:03

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I'm pretty sure they've wanted to continue on from the movie for years and nothing has came from it. It won't go anywhere, the TV side is so a huge improvement over the film.

Paul	02-04-2021 14:48

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Wanting and actually happening are far different things.

If anything ever happend, then great, but I'm not holding my breath.

General Maximus

05-04-2021 13:19

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season 2 of The Witcher has wrapped and is in post production

Hugh	05-04-2021 16:15

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Latest Loki trailer

Paul	05-04-2021 22:21

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:hyper:

pip08456

07-04-2021 18:09

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cimt	11-04-2021 17:17

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Kung Fu

Didn't know they did a remake of this but I like the look of the action so I may give this a watch.

General Maximus

11-04-2021 17:37

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I posted the info and trailer in the tv schedule thread a few weeks ago. I thought it was goung to be some serious kick ass series but it is your typical light hearted CW teen drama. I have watched the first ep and decided not to bother going forward.

cimt	11-04-2021 17:42

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Ah I must of missed that. The trailer does look interesting, would of been good to have a show that matched Into the Badlands in terms of combat.

General Maximus

11-04-2021 18:03

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I would say this is more on par with the Cobra Kai with regards to the tone and feel of the show.

Paul	12-04-2021 00:46

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:rolleyes:

It was enjoyable, give a whirl cimt, you dont know until you try it.

Hugh	19-04-2021 16:19

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Love, Death + Robots Season 2 trailer

Paul	19-04-2021 22:37

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Ive not heard of that until now.

General Maximus

19-04-2021 23:03

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Ditto

Hugh	20-04-2021 10:10

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Season 1 was really good - a lot of well-know/regarded SF authors short stories were turned into video shorts.

Update - some of Season 2 SF authors whose short stories have been filmed.

https://www.themarysue.com/netflix-l...mpression=true

General Maximus

20-04-2021 21:49

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A movie trailer in the tv section?

pip08456

20-04-2021 22:06

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A movie trailer that's been in the movie section since yesterday!;)

Hugh	20-04-2021 22:26

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Ooops - error noted and removed.

Thank you.

pip08456

23-04-2021 23:47

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Disney+ to bring another Marvel 6 episode series to its platform.

Secret Invasion.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...5&d=1619217880

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The upcoming show will follow Nick Fury and the Skrull Talos as they attempt to stop "a faction of shape-shifting Skrulls who have been infiltrating Earth for years."

Cast members so far are listed here.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/alexgurley/...n-what-we-know

Paul	25-04-2021 05:05

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Looks like it should be another good series.

General Maximus

26-04-2021 18:07

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Information is being teased about the new John Wick spin-off series:

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Known as “The Continental,” the show will be a prequel series likely centered on a young Winston, the character played by Ian McShane in the movies. Lionsgate TV boss Kevin Beggs recently spoke with Deadline about plans for the series, and what it might look like even without Keanu Reeves in a starring role. Starz is currently set to host the show.

“We took a lot of pitches, and then the creative team from this obscure little show called Wayne that was on YouTube came to us with their take,” Beggs said. “We were really blown away because it solved a bunch of problems and was super exciting, about a crumbling New York in the 1970s with a garbage strike that has piled up bags of garbage to the third floor of most brownstones, the mafia muscling in on that business, which is why in ‘The Sopranos’ he’s in the sanitation business.”

Beggs said the spinoff series could provide an “interesting backdrop to explore the origins of The Continental, which is famously within the movie franchise the assassin’s hotel in which you cannot kill anyone on the hotel grounds, but of course if you step one foot off you’re fair game, and that’s employed to great effect in many of the plots in the movies. Running all of that is Winston, who is played by Ian McShane [in the movies].”

McShane has confirmed he won’t be starring in the series, but could provide voiceover.

“What we’re exploring in ‘The Continental’ is the young Winston and how it came to be that he and his team of confederates found their way into this hotel, which we have met for the first time in the movie franchise 40 years later,” Beggs said. “That’s the arena. I won’t give away more than that, but Starz really leaned into this take also, and they have been great collaborators. And how we’ve approached this first season is as three essentially 90-minute events which you could construe as a limited series or a limited event series.”

Beggs said that “Keanu is likely executive-producing. Because we’re way back in time, way back pre-John Wick and even pre-young John Wick, that character is not finding his way into the universe.”

It was last reported that Starz wouldn’t air “The Continental” until after the fourth “John Wick” movie which, due to the pandemic, isn’t set to release until May 27, 2022.

Beggs said the franchise has “got such great mythology and such interesting style, and the gun-fu approach of these incredibly poetic stunt esthetics is just out of this world, which is why the movie with Keanu Reeves — who is so amazing in everything he does but particularly compelling as John Wick in our mind — it just cries out to be something in TV. Just like the Marvel Universe and the DC Universe from a TV perspective are incredible opportunities, and that is our superhero franchise in the family.”

Paul	05-05-2021 04:40

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While not confirmed yet, it looks like Pennyworth may get renewed for a 3rd season with a move to HBO Max. The first two seasons were on EPIX.

General Maximus

20-05-2021 18:31

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Julie Plec is returning to the world of vampires for her next television series. Peacock has ordered Vampire Academy from Plec, the woman behind The Vampire Diaries and The Originals. Ten episodes have been ordered for this upcoming drama series which is based on the novels by Richelle Mead.

https://tvseriesfinale.com/tv-show/v...the-originals/

Paul	21-05-2021 03:28

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Well, I loved the Vampire Diaries, and the Originals, and Legacies, so hopefully this will be as good.

General Maximus

21-05-2021 09:05

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me too. I didn't make the comparison because I wasn't sure if it was set in the same universe or not

pip08456

22-05-2021 16:52

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Summer series premiere dates.

Motherland: Fort Salem Tuesday, June 22
Resident Evil: Infinite Darkness Thursday, July 8
The Outpost Thursday, July 15
Roswell, New Mexico Monday, July 26
DC's Stargirl Tuesday, Aug. 10
Star Trek: Lower Decks Thursday, Aug. 12
Brooklyn Nine-Nine Thursday, Aug. 12
Coroner Thursday, Aug. 19
The Walking Dead Thursday, Aug. 22
Supergirl Tuesday, Aug. 24

Jaymoss

22-05-2021 18:51

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Suoergirl is 7 episodes into its final season it just restarts in August. Coroner also I believe is only resuming also

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Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 36080309)

me too. I didn't make the comparison because I wasn't sure if it was set in the same universe or not

Vampire Academy was a film in 2014 I can only assume this is based on that or the book that was based on

Paul	22-05-2021 19:23

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Some others ;

Loki, Wed 09 June
Monsters at Work, Fri 02 Jul
Titans, Fri 23 Jul

pip08456

22-05-2021 21:23

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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36080434)

Suoergirl is 7 episodes into its final season it just restarts in August. Coroner also I believe is only resuming also

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Vampire Academy was a film in 2014 I can only assume this is based on that or the book that was based on

I know they are just restarting, they are still TV summer season premieres.

Chris

22-05-2021 21:57

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36080437)

Some others ;

Loki, Wed 09 June
Monsters at Work, Fri 02 Jul
Titans, Fri 23 Jul

Do you happen to know if that’s the Netflix international premiere date for Titans, or the US one? (I believe it’s carried on a different service in the USA?)

cimt	22-05-2021 22:10

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The date I have for Titans is August for HBO Max.

https://pressroom.warnermedia.com/us...mming-overview

Paul	22-05-2021 23:22

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36080445)

Do you happen to know if that’s the Netflix international premiere date for Titans, or the US one? (I believe it’s carried on a different service in the USA?)

No idea, I dont recall where that date came from now, but as noted above, it looks like its moved to August anyway.

Edit: In fact, I think I got it from TVDB, and thay have updated it to Aug 12th now.

https://www.thetvdb.com/series/titan...ons/official/3

Chris

22-05-2021 23:54

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IIRC Titans S2 dropped weekly on Netflix last time so my assumption would be that each ep will premiere on Netflix within a week of the HBO date.

Paul	25-05-2021 15:49

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The CW has picked up a new series called Naomi as well as The 4400.

They have cancelled the Arrow Spinoff (Canaries) and also the Black Lightning spinoff (Painkiller).
The Nancy Drew spinoff (Tom Swift) is still a possibility atm.

Stephen

25-05-2021 16:04

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Is the 4400 a reboot or sequel to the original series?

General Maximus

25-05-2021 17:47

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Reboot

https://tvseriesfinale.com/tv-show/t...etwork-series/

Stephen

25-05-2021 19:42

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That's unfortunate. Would have been good as a follow up.

General Maximus

26-05-2021 17:36

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Yeah. What will be interesting is if it is as good as the original with scifi themes or whether they ran PC down out throat and they worry about more the cast/characters being female, black, gay and non-binary.

Paul	26-05-2021 23:55

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You can almost 100% bet there will be a gay lead character.

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Oh wait, what a surprise ;

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TL Thompson will star on the series as Dr. Andre, a transgender male from 1920s Harlem who uses his skills as a doctor to help treat the 4400.

.. box ticked.

General Maximus

27-05-2021 23:18

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I am almost tempted to say now that I won't watch it. I'll give it ago but if the pilot is all about pushing trans issues and BLM then I am outta here.

Stephen

28-05-2021 00:08

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Hopefully he will just be trans and that's his character. They won't mention it every 5 mins.

General Maximus

28-05-2021 08:21

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They won't mention it every 5 mins.

Of course they will, why do you think they are mentioning it now? If they weren't going to make a big thing of it they wouldn't have mentioned it at all and would just let it reveal itself amongst the many other characters which we will be introduced to when they all return. By mentioning it now they are saying he is somehow more important than the others.

Hugh	28-05-2021 14:39

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No, it’s called "representation" - they’re letting people who share those characteristics know someone like them is on the show.

https://medium.com/@Laurenwash/the-i...a-2d006149cac9

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Imagine the first time when young children see a superhero or an astronaut on screen whose image looks like them. It is 2018, and for some kids, the historic moment of seeing Black Panther was their first time seeing a superhero of color on screen. Better yet, this groundbreaking film which has netted over $900 million dollars, could have been the first time seeing a predominantly black cast with a black director, black costume designers, black hairstylists, and more, actively producing representation in a positive light. Sandra Bullock’s astronaut character, Dr. Ryan Stone, in the 2013 film, Gravity, may have been the first occasion when young girls witnessed both a female astronaut and scientist on screen. The content our society views on screen is supposed to reflect its people, but all too often the entertainment and media industries tend to marginalize people of color, and women, just to name a few. Stories affect all areas of life in terms of how people view themselves, how they live their lives, and how they see others. Some of the content that these industries distribute to the public remains the only form of representation some individuals see, and these portrayals may be accurate or inaccurate. Media depicts stereotypical representations for people of color and women, whether through Hollywood or on the news, as violent criminals, the help, terrorists, submissive characters, highly sexualized beings, unintelligent people, and more. Similarly, there are concerns for Lesbian, Gay, Bi-sexual, Transgender, and Queer (LGBTQ) populations and depictions of disabled persons. Seeing oneself on screen is crucial because society is not monolithic, but multifaceted.

General Maximus

28-05-2021 14:53

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36081144)

they’re letting people who share those characteristics know someone like them is on the show.

or they could just let people watch the series because it looks good and they like the sound of the story and they can be pleasantly surprised when they find a new character they like and relate to. It might even contribute to their realism factor :shocked:

Paul	28-05-2021 15:39

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36081144)

No, it’s called "representation"

In other words, you just made the point for us.

Every show must now have a black or coloured person, every show must have an LGBTQ whatever , gotta tick all those boxes now, and of course, you have to constantly promote/preach about it instead of just getting on with the story.

Its complete bollox and slowly destroying many shows, as viewing figures show (think Supergirl, Batwoman).

Of course, its perfectly possible to have variety ['representation'] and not constantly preach about it.
I dont particularly care for the new Equalizer, but I've watched a few, and they dont keep harping on about her colour (or sex) - they just get on with the show (and as a result, its doing quite well).

Forcing minority characters into every show is simply not realistic, the latest figures I could find for the UK were about 3% of the popilation is not Hetrosexual, the last figure I could find for the US was about 5%

Apparently a Gallup poll asking Americans what they thought the figure was says most estimated the figure at about 21 - 24%.
In other words, they over estimated by 4 or 5 times - I cant imagine why they over estimate it by so much .....

Getting back to the subject, I will give The 4400 a chance, but if it turns out to be another preachy pc show then I'll dump it.

General Maximus

28-05-2021 18:41

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Here's some food for thought. When you go shopping at e.g. Asda do you go because you like the range, prices and customer service or do you go because they have just put an advert on tv saying "at Asda 5% of our workforce is LBGT, 15% Black and 60% Women?" I am sure the public would like the know that the place they spend a large amount of their money on every week represents their local community and national diversity as a whole but it doesn't get rammed down your throat at every opportunity.

Hugh	28-05-2021 19:19

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Here’s food for thought - when you go shopping at Asda, how would you feel if none of the food on offer was what you liked, or what your family enjoyed eating? Isn’t it better than Asda (and other supermarkets) offer a wider range of foods, to cater for diverse tastes; isn’t it good they advertise this wider range of foods, and that way, they expand their customer base, and people who have never seen that sort of food before see that other foods are available, which leads them to (hopefully) understand "different" isn’t strange or frightening, just different…

General Maximus

28-05-2021 19:28

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36081185)

isn’t it good they advertise this wider range of foods, and that way, they expand their customer base, and people who have never seen that sort of food before see that other foods are available, which leads them to (hopefully) understand "different" isn’t strange or frightening, just different…

doesn't work like that. I can tell you from first hand experience that if Asda doesn't sell x amount of something it disappears pronto. They look at £return/cubic foot. They have these lofty ideas and ideals and every now and again you get something quirky and unique coming in, whether it be eco friendly products, "help the farmers" etc etc, they all cost more for doing the right thing, not enough people buy them the products disappear in a flash. All new lines are driven by third party investment i.e. Walkers/Dolmio/McVities paying to do consumer research and monitoring customer behaviours and patterns. The brand names take the risk in investment in launching new lines which they subsidise supermarkets for and if they work out then Asda makes their own brand version of it. They like to flap about product quality, customer service, the environment and everything else but they only do it if it is worth their time and makes them £££ in direct sales or PR.

Stephen

28-05-2021 19:58

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If a show or story has a LGBTQ+ character or one of colour as part of the story fair enough but if they are just there because studios have to then it can ruin a show. The actor may not be good or suit the character but they need to have someone of that description now.

Take friends for example. If it was made now, there would be one white American, a LGBTQ+, a Latino, a black character etc. Just because and they would keep talk about said trait at every opportunity. Batwoman is guilty of it majorly and its ratings nose dived.

General Maximus

28-05-2021 20:37

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 36081189)

Take friends for example. If it was made now, there would be one white American, a LGBTQ+, a Latino, a black character etc. Just because and they would keep talk about said trait at every opportunity.

exactly, and that has been brought up many a time over the last few years due to the shows popularity and if they did do it it would be grade 1 shite. Friends is recognised globally as being phenomenal and magical so everyone obviously loves it and doesn't have a problem with it. If it ain't broken don't fix it and don't screw stuff up for the sake of it. You can have a diverse cast without having to make an issue out of it. Grey's Anatomy is the perfect example. They had many black actors from the outset but each person is their own unique character with so many facets that you love them for who the character is and you don't event think about the fact that they are black and that is how it should be. In real life we talk about direct and indirect discrimination in the work place and skin colour or gender identity shouldn't be the be all and end all of a character. It shouldn't matter and should be something that is a non-issue and in the background secondary to the crux o the story. Grey's has gone down hill big time over the last two seasons this, this season especially. They have dealt with their share of topical issues over the years and they have been handled really well and in keeping with a realistic story line. This year it has become less medical drama and more gay drama of the week and extra toppings of OTT mental health issues.

Jaymoss

28-05-2021 20:52

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 36081189)

and it would not have run for 10 series and be watched over and over by many that is for sure

General Maximus

28-05-2021 23:05

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yup. There is a reason why series such as Friends and GoT are so popular and successful; they are pretty much perfect and although when you look back it might turn out that some of the contributing factors weren't planned, were accidents or coincidences, things ultimately worked out. Series like Greys Anatomy, Batwoman and Supergirl have found out that when you move away from your core premise and start pushing your own agenda, your ratings and viewers plummet and you risk cancellation. I had a bit of a whinge about Seal Team a couple of weeks ago but they didn't dwell on it and have actually handled it very well.

Paul	29-05-2021 00:02

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36081185)

What has that got to do with their workforce being black/white/lgb whatever :confused:

If Asda didnt stock what people wanted, they would buy it elsewhere.
(In fact, I do the opposite as Morrisons are my main shop, if they dont have it, I pop down the road to Asda).
Who on earth shops at Asda becasue their workforce is 60% Women ?

Hugh	29-05-2021 09:42

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My metaphor was about representation in food (different types to attract a wider range of customers), not about staffing diversity.

pip08456

29-05-2021 17:11

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General Maximus

29-05-2021 19:08

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Not my cup of tea but I can see appealing to a certain group of people. I going to group it with the too laid back Librarians and Warehouse 13 cheese.

Stephen

29-05-2021 20:09

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I love Warehouse 13. It was a great fun show.

General Maximus

29-05-2021 20:27

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You'll love it then. I am going to add Pandora and The Outpost to that group as well.

Paul	29-05-2021 22:40

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There is nothing wrong with either The Librarians, Warehouse 13, Pandora or The Outpost.
Stop taking digs at shows just because YOU dont like them, you're starting to get very tiresome.

Having watched the trailer above, I still have no real clue what its actually about.
Looking it up, its apparently a revival of a series from a few years ago, simply called Leverage.

Jaymoss

30-05-2021 00:05

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Would love to see a Warehouse 13 revival myself and/or The Librarians did not watch the other two. So many have to make hard choices sometimes

General Maximus

30-05-2021 00:25

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Black Panther spinoff series in the works and it sounds like it is going to be a prequel focusing on Okoye

https://www.imdb.com/news/ni63310685/

cimt	30-05-2021 00:57

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Leverage was an awesome show. I shall deffos give that a watch.

General Maximus

02-06-2021 19:28

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Oscar Isaac to star as Moon Knight in new Marvel Moon Knight series

https://www.imdb.com/news/ni63310145/

Paul	10-06-2021 20:20

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Invasion comes to apple tv on 22 Oct 2021.
Its a Sci-Fi, about (as the name implies) alien invasion of earth.

General Maximus

11-06-2021 09:41

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That could be fantastic if it is done well. I am looking forward to seeing a trailer.

Hugh	11-06-2021 10:21

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Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 36082557)

That could be fantastic if it is done well. I am looking forward to seeing a trailer.

General Maximus

11-06-2021 20:09

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I am very very excited

Paul	11-06-2021 20:30

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Peacock have ordered Ted, based on the character from the two films.

Paul	25-06-2021 18:58

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Production has begun on the final 8 episodes of His Dark Materials (Season 3).

AMC are producing a series based on Interview with the Vampire.

FX are profucing a series called Class of 09, which follows class of FBI agents in the 'near future' where the U.S. criminal justice system has been transformed by Artificial Intelligence.

The CW are apparently working on a Supernatural prequel which will follow the lives of John and Mary Winchester (the parents) and will be narrated by Jensen Ackles.

General Maximus

08-07-2021 18:07

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General Maximus

10-07-2021 00:45

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Season 2 of The Witcher drops on Friday 17th December. It will be featured in the new Fall TV Schedules so you don't have to worry about remembering.

pip08456

14-07-2021 03:42

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Sliders reboot in the works. Will have some of the original cast as well.

Stephen

14-07-2021 07:48

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I loved that show.

General Maximus

14-07-2021 18:38

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me too. Some series (like BSG) dont need a reboot but Sliders would benefit from one. I loved it and the series knew no bounds in terms of the stories but the limited production budget meant most of the effects were quite bad. Things have moved on so much and I can't wait to see what they come up with now. I hope they keep the whispering "Sliders" in the intro.

pip08456

14-07-2021 18:57

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Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 36086256)

Well Tracy Tormé is involved so who knows.

Hugh	14-07-2021 19:48

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Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 36086256)

me too. Some series (like BSG) dont need a reboot but Sliders would benefit from one. I loved it and the series knew no bounds in terms of the stories but the limited production budget meant most of the effects were quite bad. Things have moved on so much and I can't wait to see what they come up with now. I hope they keep the whispering "Sliders" in the intro.

But BSG (2004) was a reboot - I’d rather wait and see, before judging.

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