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I agree they are marketing their products well, calling it free hosting but a setup fee that probably covers the cost!!!

I've not cancelled an aco****, have a few of them for different projects, so don't know if it's refund able.

The cost after the first year is £50p.a.

I've tried a few other hosts since this one is in Aussie and i think the servers are in the US. But all the UK hosts seems pants in terms of speed and relaibilty.

I do have an account with you, which I DON'T class as witht he others in the previous line :) mainly cause the account does not come with ASP, which is what I need in all my hosting packages.

I did ask you some time ago about ASP, and you said you (forgot who is what) were looking into getting windows hosting and would get back to me... :cough: :D :)

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Does this mean you have discovered who or how (or both) used your servers to send 'that mail'? Have you made them secure from such attacks in the future?

Security is one of the biggest factors for me in choosing web hosting companies. I would certainly like to know what you have done since the 'email' event, before I would consider your services or recomending them to others.

Sorry if this seems like more trouble making to you but to me they are valid questions, so I ask them. Hope that is not a problem.

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I think the biggest issue most have is knowing what their requirements are, if you could offer a base package with easy to add extras as and when they needed them:

A base package-
1xDB (allowing you to set up a forum)
200mb bandwidth
100mb storage
10 email addys

Then optional (Pick n Mix) extras:
Storage & Bandwidth Packs
subdoms, addons
Databases
FTP's
etc.

Perhaps with a free trial (2 weeks before billing) of some of the optional extras?

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I think we've done this point to death already and you are in a minority. I'm sure I-Web will reply soon to your points but we don't want any more on this subject on this forum. Take it I-Web's forum if you want to argue more.

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Hi Erol
All i can say is that we have taken certain measures since then to secure the server from this sort of attack in the future and for obvious reasons we cannot divulge this for security reasons..
Our investigations proved inconclusive as to who sent it but we know the method that was used again this is something that we are unable to divulge but rest assured that if the method is used again that we will know almost instantly with all the traceable information logged and forwarded to the appororiate persons



Yours
I-Web Solutions

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I think that offering free hosting would be a very bad business move IMO, you might be better off offering the same as above but with PHP thrown in for £1-£1.50 a month or something.

With regards to ASP, you could always install Chilisoft ASP which is a package designed for Linux.
I don't know if it supports the newer .NET type though.

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I don't think Chilisoft ASP, too many extensions and other crap running on a server and you start to notice a performance hit.

If you want ASP, then use W2K3 :D

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Agreed - if you want ASP then stick to using a windows host - and W2003 (IIS6) should be your choice now.

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Done it to death? King Phoneix and yourself both said that the mail did not come from I-web - end of story. Unfortunately the mail did come from an iweb machine.

I am in a minority? You mean a minority of people that did not believe the inacurate report here (never corrected btw by those that made the incorrect statements afaik) that the mails did not come from an Iweb machine. They did. You know that, KP knows that and I know that. I guess pointing all this out is just the kind of 'doing it to death' you would rather avoid.

I have to say it is all very NTL'esque really. First response - mislead and misinform (knowingly or unknowingly). When challenged say the matter has been dealt with and no more will be said. Maybe you should consider a job at NTL ? ;)

Who is we?
The topic of this thread was Iwebs services.
I am not arguing. I asked a (reasonable imo) question.
Iwebs machines were recently compromised. Not only were they compromised but initialy at least KP (on apperances) did not even realise that the machine had been compromised. Further the hacker appeared to enter the machine, execute their act, and leave without leaving any trace. Asking what they have done about it since is in my view a valid reasonable and on topic question to have asked in the context of the thread. Clearly though it is upsetting to yourself for some reason. So I will not say anymore if you do not.

I have had a (proper) reply to my question and so the question has been asked and answered. Thanks for that 'web junkie' (I assume you are part of the iweb team?).

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:rolleyes: Have we been here before ?

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Don't think so. Last time we were close to here we were told by KP that the mail was not sent from an Iweb machine. The statement from web junkie (if they are an I web person, which I assume they are) is not just different from anything said publically on the site by Iweb people to date, it is the exact reverse. The I web servers were compromised. The 'mail' was sent via their machine. They have worked out how it was done and taken measures to stop it happening again. Question asked and asnwered, but by no means have we been here before, as far as I can see it.

How do you see it? (PS dont reply and I wont btw).

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1. I dont beleive that your concern is the privacy of the members. I believe that your sole objective is to stir the mud and make trouble.

2. You have had an explanation for the email. I-web host this site for free ! That is something we should be greatful for.

3. The comments you made about the server go to prove how little you know about computer security. The only secure server is one that is disconnected !

4. You are in the minority - I and most of the members here are happy with the explanation. There was a problem - Its now been fixed. Whats the point in going over it again.

5. The admins/mods have stated that they do not wish the matter discused any further. That is there right - they run the site not you.

All I ever see when you post is complaints or moans. If you dont like it - dont post. Its that simple. What benifit is there in going over this again ?

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Sorry guys for the abrupt post but I feel that the above has be said !

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You know, I am so tired of your crap, I am very close to deleting your membership. You bring nothing to this forum but trouble. On .com I had to put with it, on here I do not. ;)

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Believe what you like m8. There was a discussion about Iweb hosting and their services. They were recently hacked. I asked what had been done to ensure that such does not happen again in the context of this discussion. Seems reasonable to me, especially given the flim flam that had been posted about the hack previously.

There was previously a statment that the mails did not come from Iweb. There was no explanation. I sought expert advise and represented it here as to why this statment was not correct. Most people running webservers commercialy would have thanked me for that (and I did get a private thanks from KP to be fair).
I do appreciate Iweb offering free hosting to sites like this. However the context of this thread was their commercial services. In such a context how secure their boxes are and how good a grip of security issue they have are of relevance imo.

Hmmm how do you 'serve' if you are disconnected and to whom do you serve? :)

Security is a complex subject and I make no claims to any expertiese. I did not know that the IP add of the machine that sent the mail to my recieveing smtp server could not be spoofed, until I sought expert advise on this. Having received such advise I am able to understand why that is so. I also took the trouble of passing on such explanations here, though little credit did it bring me (from the 'majority'*)

Yep I am in a minority. Nothing new there. I am in a minority because I was not happy with an explaination that was physicaly impossible. Sorry about that.
There was a problem. We were told categoricaly that it was nothing to do with Iweb when it is simply a matter of fact that the mails came via an Iweb machine. We have now been told that this problem (that previously did not exist, as far as public statments here went!) has been fixed. Like I say question asked and answered. All I am doing now is responding to futher posts like yours.

They have made it clear that they do not want it dicussed further, having previously put out incorrect information about it and made no corrections since. Personaly I do not think that is the was the best way of dealing with it (again very NTLish in many ways). They run the site and if they want to remove me for asking a vlid on topic question in a thread, then that is indeed their choice.

Well one clearly sees what one wants to see. You see complaints and moans, I see a valid on topic question being asked.

Don't like what? KP asked what people wanted in a web hosting service. I asked if they had closed up the hole used by the hacker or traced them. They said they have closed up that hole. Its that simple.

Benefit? The benefit is that I (and everyone else) have now been told that they have closed up whatever means the hacker used to send the mails. This increases my confidence in Iweb as a hosting service vs the previous position of public declarations that it was nothing to do with Iweb at all when patenetly it was.

Sorry people for the abrupt post but I feel that the above has be said :)

If you want to delete my membership, because I have asked a valid, on topic question in a thread, then that is your perogative, as ever.

Guess you didn't catch my post in the cap thread then, that (the?) Keyser himself praised earlier today?

Like I have repetedly said the question was asked and answered. There was no need for any more that that. As long as people go on questioning why I asked the question etc etc, then with respect I would suggest it is those people that are 'going on' and not me alone.

I asked the question - did they plug the hole yet?. The answer came back yes. Nuff said. That speaking such truth is uncomfortable to some people is not my problem really, it is theirs.

Well you (as in the plural you the .com team) did not really 'put up with it' there either did you? Many suspensions, bannings, IP blockings from even viewing the site, never recieveing a warning letter or a first 'strike' (let alone a third), getting an apology from Mr Carter etc etc etc most certainly did not feel like you were 'putting up with it', from where I was sitting.