Re: Limewire, Emule, Morpheus etc
 

I didn't say it was. And you only share on newsgroups if you upload.

Re: Limewire, Emule, Morpheus etc
 

Actually, there's a couple of points you made that aren't quite as clear-cut as you make out.

Firstly, under UK law it is not legal to make back-up copies - even for personal use - of a CD that you bought. Many european countries, the US, Canada, and loads of other countries do allow this, but not here in Blighty. Interestingly, in a lot of the European countries where this is permissable, you pay a tax on CD-RW drives, blank CDs and other recordable media in order to compensate the record labels.

Secondly, someone did get taken to court over this, and the courts decided that it is not illegal to record a TV show or a radio broadcast, in order to view it at a later time. The so-called "Betamax Case" in the US, whilst not setting a precedent over here, did influence the UK courts massively. That's why VCRs and DVD recorders are sold and used legally throughout the UK, and why the police don't bash down everybody's doors confiscating all your video tapes and audio cassettes.

Similarly, the Diamond Rio case protects manufacturers... although the MGM Grokster case doesn't offer software writers the same protection ;)

Re: Limewire, Emule, Morpheus etc
 

I think he meant you won't get caught if you don't upload, not it's not illegal ... although it's surprising how many folks seem to think the only real crime is getting caught :erm:

Re: Limewire, Emule, Morpheus etc
 

Yep my mistake:
http://www.copyrightservice.co.uk/co..._copyright_law

Still bit of a joke you can back-up your Windows disc, but not your bob dylan album

Re: Limewire, Emule, Morpheus etc
 

Personbally I don't use these programs. They slow down your system ansd come bundled with so much junk it isnt even worth using installing them.

IMO you can share things that you have permission to share, but nothing that is banned from copying or sharing.

Re: Limewire, Emule, Morpheus etc
 

here speaketh the totally clean ;)

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although I dont quite think that im not far off lol lol

Re: Limewire, Emule, Morpheus etc
 

I was gonna point that out, but someone beat me to it! LMAO

But, I don't agree with not being allowed to legally backup a CD I have bought. I've got loads of CD albums that I have bought over the years, and since I don't have a stereo anymore and use my PC for music, I would be happy to transfer all my bought CD's to MP3 on my PC (as long as I kept the originals ;)). Not that I'm saying that I have done that, of course :rolleyes:

Re: Limewire, Emule, Morpheus etc
 

Halcyon I completely agree, but at the moment the RIAA is going for the clients too, not sure how they can be held responsible. O and they don't all come bundled:
http://p2p.malwareremoval.com/

And are used by Linux users, like myself, when a new version of the OS becomes available. Incidentally the torrent tracker is from the distros site so you know you are getting a legit file. So if the US, or anywhere else, kills off all the clients (unlikely, but may happen) then it will hit the open source community hard, as bandwidth for downloads costs alot of money, and file sharing helps to reduce these costs (and it is quicker). In fact Ubuntu comes with Bittorrent capability built in, so is the OS illegal in the USA because of what the client is capable of doing, instead of what the user does with it?

AntiSilence it just shows how the laws need updating, and how slow the government is at doing this. Cds get scratched etc, and unfortunately the record industry loves deleting things so one cannot replace them, in this instance a backup is the only sensible thing - the same goes for vinyl too

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Too right. One other thing: I like Due South alot, and until recently they were not available on region 2 DVD. Now, they could easily downloaded from various places. But of course, to do this would be illegal. But if the producers don't make it available to buy, what do they expect?

Re: Limewire, Emule, Morpheus etc
 

I just wish they would embrace the technology, ISP love it because apart from gaming at the moment there is not point having 10meg download - doesn't make email, or browsing faster - hence they try to resist giving your details out.

I really think they are missing the trick here, they could make alot of money from this, just by making the downloads more affordable, but big companies are usually dinosaurs, and greedy :) Else why would Ntl be looking at bittorrent and music downloads (can't remember the link for the story).

Then people could do it legally, and not have to be taken to court.

Re: Limewire, Emule, Morpheus etc
 

my ISP has a neat little tool (fair usage policy applies so i have a view my usage tool, in this it has a breakdown of where the usage has come from, ftp, usenet, p2p, gaming, web and other.)

now knowing this they would know exactly what im doing - how much im doing etc. - Aslong as you ISP is getting your money and your not being a pain im sure they will keep shtum until the law states they *have* to give up ip addys/ details of offenders.

And whats wrong with usenet?? =\ i pay for usenet access does that count :D

Also - what if your using newsgroups for what they were intended for... not illegal now eh ? :)

and dependant on what your transferring - if your a neat little "haxor" like said before distributing your "program" is perfectly legal - unless it causes damage like a virus, malware ...etc. etc.

If people are strugglign for BW (such as people sharing the files to cut costs,) either set up a project on sourceforge or - check out rapidshare.de - they increased their filesizes from 100mb to 300mb this month - and is very very quick :)


http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds29031.html

that the linky you meant ADd ?