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Chrysalis 26-06-2006 16:13

Re: 10MB from newsgroups ... how ??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mojo
I use Newshosting, and can sometimes get 10Mb but mostly get about 2-4Mb.

I think the main issue is contention for bandwidth outside NTLs network. I can usually get the full 10Mb from NTLs news servers.

My solution is to simple use both sets of news servers. That way I can max out most of the time, except when I am downloading only from Newshosting which fortunately isn't that often.

or more likely congested peering, 9 times out of 10 this will be blamed on external factors making ntl look innocent.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by steptoe
I use TweakNow PowerPack 2006 to tweak my settings to what they recomment for anything above 1.5MB lines my tcpwindowsize is 256960 and the large windowsupport is set, along with MTU AutoDiscovery is on with BlackHole Discovery is on

I tried CableNut with some settings I found for 10MB NTL recommended by others on this forum but if anything it made things slower

I'm currently with newsgroup-binaries, and pay $15 monthly for no restrictions at all for my downloads

Any suggestions on an EU newsgroup provider that offer unlimited download speeds with NO download limit, I don't mind paying for that, but not to much


Also how any advice on to set-up to use another port out to get access via another provider, if this might help as well


I've got 4 connections set on NewsLeecher, I'll try increasing it to the maximum 10, but anything more than 5 with AOL and it baulked connections constantly so leaving it at 4 ran fine, so I didn't know if that was the connection limit to the server or the limit with bandwidth I had

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Before I forget again, is there any website or free software that can trace the routes for me so I can see where the problems may be, and I'll compare them against the ftp.blueyonder.co.uk to see what the routes are

thanks

if increasing rwin slows it down its likely you have some retransmits going on which is a sign of congestion :(

blackhole detection I am not sure is beneficial try disabling it.

mojo 26-06-2006 18:26

Re: 10MB from newsgroups ... how ??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrysalis
or more likely congested peering, 9 times out of 10 this will be blamed on external factors making ntl look innocent.

Is there any way to tell?

Chrysalis 26-06-2006 20:21

Re: 10MB from newsgroups ... how ??
 
doing a traceroute if the pings shoot up as it leaves ntl network thats a peering problem or if loss starts occuring there, but even if that doesnt happen it doesnt mean their peeringis fine.

what I have noticed that since I left ntl, my usa speeds have shot up even on a slower connection and my telia speeds have gone up since my old ntl connection had peering problems with telia and many parts of usa.

another problem with traceroutes is you only doing a trace out from the network when it could be taking a different path back in and so the inbound path might be congested but you cant diagnose it unless you can do a reverse trace.

mojo 26-06-2006 20:43

Re: 10MB from newsgroups ... how ??
 
I have just come back to NTL from ADSL 8Mb. I was first with Zen, then Evolution, then Ace. All of them were a lot slower than NTL, contention on ADSL is terrible.

Chrysalis 27-06-2006 01:33

Re: 10MB from newsgroups ... how ??
 
like ntl bt can be a bit of a postcode lottery, your exchange was probably contended.

for me it was the opposite, I find my speed at 8pm no different to 8am.

ntl for me tho the contention was insane.

SnoopZ 27-06-2006 18:51

Re: 10MB from newsgroups ... how ??
 
On Newshosting using port 9000 and always get 10mb speed for $14.95 a month. I also use Newsleecher with 15 bots (1 server). It also gives you 45days retention.

Rik 27-06-2006 22:11

Re: 10MB from newsgroups ... how ??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zinglebarb
I only pay 24 $ to giganews and they have 40 day retention 10 connections unlimited blar and I get 10 meg from the us server ;)

Retention is double that!
More like 80 days.!
Its absolutely FAB, just a tad pricey at $24.99

I highly recommend Giganews and recommend you use the Europe server, as its a little faster, not that the US one is slow! ;)

mojo 28-06-2006 18:49

Re: 10MB from newsgroups ... how ??
 
I usually only get 300k from Newshosting. It's better away from peek times.

Is my area just congested? Will NTL ever do anything about it?

jtwn 28-06-2006 18:58

Re: 10MB from newsgroups ... how ??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rik
Retention is double that!
More like 80 days.!
Its absolutely FAB, just a tad pricey at $24.99

I highly recommend Giganews and recommend you use the Europe server, as its a little faster, not that the US one is slow! ;)

You will find that even if you try use the US servers now, you will be redirected to euro ones.

Chrysalis 28-06-2006 19:11

Re: 10MB from newsgroups ... how ??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mojo
I usually only get 300k from Newshosting. It's better away from peek times.

Is my area just congested? Will NTL ever do anything about it?

maybe, but different parts of ntl's network go over different peers. So the guys getting nice speed might be using different transit to you.

Richy99 30-06-2006 00:06

Re: 10MB from newsgroups ... how ??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zinglebarb
I only pay 24 $ to giganews and they have 40 day retention 10 connections unlimited blar and I get 10 meg from the us server ;)

giganews do 70 days and why arent you using the european server? i can max out on 3 conenctions so 9 is complete overkill as you are putting more laod on the server with the conenctions, try running a lower amount to see if you can still max out your connection

and you dont need to reserve a connection in newsbin in v5 only older v4 you needed to do that

Vegeta 01-07-2006 20:37

Re: 10MB from newsgroups ... how ??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ
On Newshosting using port 9000 and always get 10mb speed for $14.95 a month. I also use Newsleecher with 15 bots (1 server). It also gives you 45days retention.

Same here. Was using more connections before but after changing the port number from 119 to 9000 I get 10mbit speeds with 15 connections too.

Rik 02-07-2006 09:10

Re: 10MB from newsgroups ... how ??
 
I get a 1.18 MB/s from Giganews with just 4 connections.

I would highly recommend Giganews to anyone if they can afford it, failing that go for Newshosting.

zing_deleted 02-07-2006 09:11

Re: 10MB from newsgroups ... how ??
 
As ive mentioned before Ive stuck with Giganews even though there are cheaper unlimited accounts available.Giganews has been rock steady for me for well over a year now

Chrysalis 02-07-2006 15:01

Re: 10MB from newsgroups ... how ??
 
simple test for you guys to prove my point.

select a proxy in your area and do a traceroute on giganews site so it traces to your proxy server.

now do the same using proxies from different parts of the country and see if it uses different transit. Thats the explanation for some people getting great speeds and others rubbish.


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