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Nugget 31-05-2006 11:49

Re: Banned from flying my Flag
 
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Originally Posted by etccarmageddon
I think if it's placed correctly it wont make excessive wind issues!

womble - I suggest you make all customers you visit in the next few weeks aware that you are working for a misable company who dont want to get into the spirit of the world cup.

Hang on though etc - the company I work for insist on me wearing a shirt and tie for work, so I'd never get away with wearing a football shirt. WHy should ntl / telewest be any different? I've just got my England badge on my tie, so that'll do me while I'm at work.

Chris W 31-05-2006 11:56

Re: No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans
 
Our work shirts have just been swapped for england football shirts until the world cup (which btw the company provided :D )

Pierre 31-05-2006 11:58

Re: No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans
 
If you role requires you to wear company uniform and drive a company vehicle. I.e. your customer facing, then it's perfectly acceptable for them to make this statement.

If, however, you are not cutomer facing and usually come into work wearing casual clothing then I can't see how they can restrict what you wear.

etccarmageddon 31-05-2006 11:59

Re: Banned from flying my Flag
 
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Originally Posted by Nugget
Hang on though etc - the company I work for insist on me wearing a shirt and tie for work, so I'd never get away with wearing a football shirt. WHy should ntl / telewest be any different? I've just got my England badge on my tie, so that'll do me while I'm at work.

I'm only in favour of the flag not the shirt idea EXCEPT if we win the cup!

homealone 31-05-2006 12:00

Re: Banned from flying my Flag
 
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Originally Posted by Womble
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Originally Posted by homealone
Bottom line is it increases fuel consumption, so while individuals can choose to take that on for their private vehicle, I can understand a company not wanting to 'subsidise' their employees indulgence?


Are you joking?????

Why should any company pay extra for anything, just because their employees want to indulge their own whims, fuel prices are at an all time high, carbon emissions are causing environmental changes - why would any company want to associate themselves with waste of resources, like this.

I am very definitely NOT joking.

Saaf_laandon_mo 31-05-2006 12:05

Re: No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans
 
Let's forget about the reasons for not allowing flags or footy tops to work for a minute. When you decide to work for any company there are rules they insist tehir employees follow. For example I hate to wear a tie, and suit and shoes to work, but if I dont my mortgage wont get paid after Ive been sacked for unprofessionalism at work.
Just because someone drives a van for most of his working day, and sees vans and cars all over london displaying an england flag, it doesn't mean you have the right to do so on your company's van.
Bitching to people about your company not wanting to get into the spirit of the world cup is a bit childish, either put up with it and display the falgs on your own car, wear the footy shirt in your own time, or if things are so bad, get a new job.

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Originally Posted by Pierre
If you role requires you to wear company uniform and drive a company vehicle. I.e. your customer facing, then it's perfectly acceptable for them to make this statement.

If, however, you are not cutomer facing and usually come into work wearing casual clothing then I can't see how they can restrict what you wear.

I worked in an american bank based in the UK where we were not client facing, and did not see any external people during work. We had a casual clothing policy which excluded collarless shirts, shorts, clothing with logos, flip flops, etc etc...This was also the same in the MArks & Sparks Head office in London. So companies can make restrictions on clothoing and it is also perfectly acceptable to do so.

etccarmageddon 31-05-2006 12:07

Re: No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans
 
I think some people are taking this too seriously. and calling people childish isn't pleasant for such a trivial subject.

yes there's rules but this doesn't mean he cant have a good moan.

Saaf_laandon_mo 31-05-2006 12:13

Re: No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans
 
Sorry i was generalising, not directing the childish comment to anyone specifically. If my employees started slagging off my company to (potential) customers on the basis that I didnt let them fly a flag during the world cup, I'd definately have a word.

Feel free to have a good moan, we all do, but sometimes I feel people go to far in their moaning

etccarmageddon 31-05-2006 12:17

Re: No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans
 
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Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo
Sorry i was generalising, not directing the childish comment to anyone specifically. If my employees started slagging off my company to (potential) customers on the basis that I didnt let them fly a flag during the world cup, I'd definately have a word.

I can see where you're coming from. I guess it depends on your loyalty and where you are in the company and that companies reputation etc. right now NTL are laying off staff left right and centre, I'd think a bit of flag waving might be a good way of upping the workers spirits.

Scope 31-05-2006 12:35

just so you know...
 

DEPT OF TRANSPORT INITIATIVE - MAY 2006.

Information Release.

There is concern over the current driving standards in England, so the Department of Transport has devised a scheme to identify poor and dangerous drivers.

This system will allow all road users to recognise the potentially hazardous and dangerous ones, or those with limited driving skills.

From the middle of May 2006 all those drivers who are found to be a potential hazard to all other road users will be issued with a white flag, bearing a red cross. This flag clearly indicates their inability to drive properly. These flags must be clipped to a door of the car and be visible to all other drivers and pedestrians.

Those drivers who have shown particularly poor driving skills will have to display two flags, one on each side of the car to indicate an even greater lack of skill and limited driving intelligence.

Please circulate this to as many other motorists as you can, in order that drivers and pedestrians will be aware of the meaning of these flags.


Thank you for your co-operation.


;)

Saaf_laandon_mo 31-05-2006 12:36

Re: No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans
 
I think companies would benefit a lot more from allowing 'flag waving' during the world cup than they would lose in fuel costs through lack of van fuel economy. The next few weeks will be generally buzzing all over Europe, and I just find people are much happier at work when they can take part in the celebrations/support etc etc. For example our company will be showing alot of the games on big projector screens in meeting rooms. Will this make us all lazy gits or mean we stop working just to see the games? Nope, what will happen is that we will work extra hard to meet the targets so we can finish off early.
HAving said that rules are rules, but sometimes not implemented with a bit of common sense.

Kliro 31-05-2006 14:12

Re: No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans
 
Well the football shirt thing should go without saying, I'd be a bit confused if I asked for an engineer or w/e to come round and some guy turned up in casual clothes claiming he was an engineer so he could gain entry to my house.

The flags do look pretty shoddy aswell tbh, and not having them would stop any trouble having them would bring. (I'm assuming here they'd act as a help for breaking into a van/car)

Womble 31-05-2006 14:26

Re: Banned from flying my Flag
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by homealone
Why should any company pay extra for anything, just because their employees want to indulge their own whims, fuel prices are at an all time high, carbon emissions are causing environmental changes - why would any company want to associate themselves with waste of resources, like this.

I am very definitely NOT joking.

Then I am afraid you need to get a life!! The increase in fuel???? you are mad :-(

I also agree with the shirts being a step to far, but the flags, what a sad country we live in

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Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo
Sorry i was generalising, not directing the childish comment to anyone specifically. If my employees started slagging off my company to (potential) customers on the basis that I didnt let them fly a flag during the world cup, I'd definately have a word.

Feel free to have a good moan, we all do, but sometimes I feel people go to far in their moaning

Yes, you could be right, but I may go to the "popular press" and make them aware of another unpatiotic company

Nugget 31-05-2006 14:27

Re: Banned from flying my Flag
 
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Originally Posted by Womble
Then I am afraid you need to get a life!! The increase in fuel???? you are mad :-(

I also agree with the shirts being a step to far, but the flags, what a sad country we live in

That's a little harsh, and suggests another over-reaction on your part to be honest.

Another problem with the flags is the good old British weather - give them two weeks (or even the 9 days until the tournament starts) of our usual summer rain, and they'll just look ragged and, frankly, crap. It just wouldn't present a professional image to Joe Public :shrug:

Womble 31-05-2006 14:30

Re: No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans
 
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Originally Posted by Chris W
Our work shirts have just been swapped for england football shirts until the world cup (which btw the company provided :D )

Gissa a job, sounds like you company is fun to work for!!

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Originally Posted by Nugget
That's a little harsh, and suggests another over-reaction on your part to be honest.
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Another over reaction???? when was the first???

Harsh, extra cost in fuel, do me a favour

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Originally Posted by Nugget
Another problem with the flags is the good old British weather - give them two weeks (or even the 9 days until the tournament starts) of our usual summer rain, and they'll just look ragged and, frankly, crap. It just wouldn't present a professional image to Joe Public :shrug:

The do pingpong balls for the ariels aswell


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