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Bill C

31-03-2006 17:12

Re: Traffic Shaping

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Originally Posted by Frank

Makes sense. My ISP has done the same thing for a long time, but as adoption of BitTorrent clients that support encryption increases, that service at least will no longer we an issue. Newsgroups... different story as the packets are easily identifiable and the protocol probably isn't about to change.

I don't tend to use Bit-torrent that much. Its more Newsgroups. This has now got me looking furiously for an adsl2+ provider in my area.

2||Para

31-03-2006 17:13

Re: Traffic Shaping

Would they recognise irc transfers and shape those?

Toto	31-03-2006 17:42

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Originally Posted by 2||Para

Would they recognise irc transfers and shape those?

Possibly by looking at the 6000 region port traffic, such as 6667, 6668 etc. :shrug:

Bill C

31-03-2006 17:47

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Neil

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Originally Posted by Neil

Well, for those of you that doubt my credentials when it comes to all things ntl, I suggest you take a look at this website: http://www.allot.com/pages/products_...?intGlobalId=2 & then bookmark this thread for future reference.

Looks like you were correct.

Toto	31-03-2006 17:48

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Originally Posted by unlimited

So how many believed me when i said they might be something going on with my connection. 6 till 12 was when i had my problems. soon as 12.00 midnight was hit it stopped. ? Now i know they have said 11.00pm but they might have been testing so took it till 12.00

Or it could be Bill that the file sharers were most active in your region around that time leaching the bandwidth, but then I'm no expert. :dunce:

Bill C

31-03-2006 17:51

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Originally Posted by Toto

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Originally Posted by unlimited

Or it could be Bill that the file sharers were most active in your region around that time leaching the bandwidth, but then I'm no expert. :dunce:

Well between that and the traffic shaping i am moving supplier.

Toto	31-03-2006 17:53

Re: Traffic Shaping

From the news article.

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What is clear though, is that ntl have again failed to properly communicate important changes to the broadband User Policy

Frank, your view here please.

ntl have updated the user policy with something that is going to happen, why do you think ntl have failed here?

Are you referring to the fact that this is in the user policy, and has not been communicated to each customer directly, such as a mail drop?

jtwn	31-03-2006 17:54

Re: Traffic Shaping

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Originally Posted by handyman

Take a wander down to ntlw head end , take a peek at the equipment there set-up to do this and then come back here , lol

This is happening..

All I am saying, is as it looks like congestion is a great problem from where I am, it isn't overly needed to shape. Obviously the equipment will be prioritised to go where its needed the most and if provisioning of the VOD equipment is anything to go by then I have nothing to worry about.

Toto	31-03-2006 17:54

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Originally Posted by unlimited

Well between that and the traffic shaping i am moving supplier.

Which of course is your right. :)

Hans Gruber

31-03-2006 17:57

Re: Traffic Shaping

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Originally Posted by Frank

Makes sense. My ISP has done the same thing for a long time, but as adoption of BitTorrent clients that support encryption increases, that service at least will no longer be an issue. Newsgroups... different story as the packets are easily identifiable and the protocol probably isn't about to change.

So they'll be forcing people off the, relatively easy on the network, newgroups and onto, bandwidth sapping, bittorrent? Sounds like a plan :rolleyes: :D

Neil	31-03-2006 17:59

Re: Traffic Shaping

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Originally Posted by Toto

From the news article.

Frank, your view here please.

ntl have updated the user policy with something that is going to happen, why do you think ntl have failed here?

Are you referring to the fact that this is in the user policy, and has not been communicated to each customer directly, such as a mail drop?

Because (just like they did with 'The Cap'), they have changed the AUP & not told anyone.

They have just amended the AUP probably in the hope that no one would notice-if ntl have nothing to hide & are willing to stand tall behind their traffic shaping, then why not just come out & announce what they are doing?

No, instead they just change the AUP & hope no one will notice. :rolleyes:

As Frank says, clearly they haven't learnt their lesson from last time. :nono:

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/article/...etwork-traffic

Bill C

31-03-2006 18:00

Re: Traffic Shaping

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Originally Posted by Toto

From the news article.

Quote:

What is clear though, is that ntl have again failed to properly communicate important changes to the broadband User Policy

So when did they do this. If it was today then this smells of the cap debacle. Remember that was released on a Friday as well and no info given to the poor customer service people who had to field the calls.

I can see this thread just grow and grow and grow :LOL:

Neil	31-03-2006 18:02

Re: Traffic Shaping

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Originally Posted by unlimited

Neil

Looks like you were correct.

Of course I was right, I normally am when it comes to ntl. :angel:

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Originally Posted by Neil

pwn3d! :PP:

Graham M

31-03-2006 18:06

Re: Traffic Shaping

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Originally Posted by Toto

Possibly by looking at the 6000 region port traffic, such as 6667, 6668 etc. :shrug:

It depends on wether the shaping is port based. IRC XDCC does not use those ports, it uses a random port in a high up range.

Bob	31-03-2006 18:12

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Is this just the NTL side of things, or is it happening on the TW?

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