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DaggaDagga 03-03-2006 16:44

Re: Any 10Mb users who use Newshosting?
 
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Originally Posted by jtwn
higher signal modulation

Please explain this concept!

Chrysalis 03-03-2006 21:12

Re: Any 10Mb users who use Newshosting?
 
I might signup to newshosting for a month see how it works out on my connection.

Ignition 04-03-2006 00:01

Re: Any 10Mb users who use Newshosting?
 
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Originally Posted by jtwn
I wasn't thinking along the lines of resegmentation. More of different/newer technologies and higher signal modulation.

I guess I don't understand these things, after the initial outlay for tech, whats the 10k / month all amount. Maintaining the systems? Maintaining what/how? Surely polish and a duster doesn't cost that much :p:

There is the minor issue that the highest downstream modulation doesn't give much more than 1/3rd improvement over the 'standard' one. Not really the sky being the limit, that's as high as it goes.

One big limitation is actually the downstream spectrum, there aren't many channels free due to the requirement to show many channels of **** TV.

Chrysalis 04-03-2006 02:11

Re: Any 10Mb users who use Newshosting?
 
hmm is it possible to add a downstream channel to a ubr for broadband effectively doubling broadband downstream bandwidth at zero cost so for example channel 0 and channel 1? like their is multi upstream channels.

jtwn 04-03-2006 12:15

Re: Any 10Mb users who use Newshosting?
 
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Originally Posted by Ignition
There is the minor issue that the highest downstream modulation doesn't give much more than 1/3rd improvement over the 'standard' one. Not really the sky being the limit, that's as high as it goes.

One big limitation is actually the downstream spectrum, there aren't many channels free due to the requirement to show many channels of **** TV.

But combined with the wider EuroDOCSIS channels on Langley, it would be more like a 95% increase.

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hmm is it possible to add a downstream channel to a ubr for broadband effectively doubling broadband downstream bandwidth at zero cost so for example channel 0 and channel 1? like their is multi upstream channels.
A second frequency dowstream would double capacity, but cost, what £2 million?

Chrysalis 04-03-2006 18:49

Re: Any 10Mb users who use Newshosting?
 
I dont know if there is a cost I am just guessing I would have thought you turn off the tv on the channel and turn it on for downstream and the equipment is already in place.

Ignition 04-03-2006 19:24

Re: Any 10Mb users who use Newshosting?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jtwn
But combined with the wider EuroDOCSIS channels on Langley, it would be more like a 95% increase.



A second frequency dowstream would double capacity, but cost, what £2 million?

Regarding EuroDOCSIS, not going to happen until the CPE kit can support it I'm afraid, which is unlikely at the moment as there are still a lot of DOCSIS only boxes about. Also there's the minor issue that the MC16 cards that are installed in Langley uBRs are, or at least were when I left, MC16C which are DOCSIS only, as oppsed to MC16E which do EuroDOCSIS.

As far as running multiple downstreams goes nowhere near that cost. Methinks you read the posts and perhaps the books but still don't quite understand how it all fits together, keep reading t he books young padawan. Lighting another downstream is much easier than you think ;) the main complication is the kit ntl use.

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Originally Posted by Chrysalis
I dont know if there is a cost I am just guessing I would have thought you turn off the tv on the channel and turn it on for downstream and the equipment is already in place.

Pretty much, involves some jiggery pokery with MC28 cards, though uBR10ks and MC520 cards are the bestest plan from the Cisco point of view for this.

The main cost there is the manpower in getting it to work.

jtwn 04-03-2006 23:19

Re: Any 10Mb users who use Newshosting?
 
Yeah, maybe the CPE kit doesn't support it but with a DPLMS running in dual hydroled mode with a teksi deliminator between it and the M25 card it should.







.....YES, I have NO idea what you are on about ign :p:

Well actually, I think by guesswork I can. You are talking about modems? The Ambit 120 onwards support and from what I believe, makes up the bulk of the network. Though i would agree there is no point if this flexpath is going to be the near future.

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As far as running multiple downstreams goes nowhere near that cost. Methinks you read the posts and perhaps the books but still don't quite understand how it all fits together, keep reading t he books young padawan. Lighting another downstream is much easier than you think the main complication is the kit ntl use.
Steve Upton's words not mine =) "£1 per home". I do see what you mean though, the cards are like only 3 grand on ebay ;)

Amadeus 07-03-2006 18:04

Re: Any 10Mb users who use Newshosting?
 
Im suspicious of traffic shaping. Try downloading something even side of the hour, ie 9.50 - 10.10, 10.50 to 11.10. There are significant jumps right on the hour. The major one is after midnight full 10meg speed is always apparent.

AlVal 07-03-2006 21:00

Re: Any 10Mb users who use Newshosting?
 
consistent 1200k/sec , night or day , from 8 connections to giganews europe

balesy 07-03-2006 21:27

Re: Any 10Mb users who use Newshosting?
 
I was with newshosting on a 10mb connection and my speed dropped dramatically, after many e-mails to which I received no replies to, I cancelled my account.
I'm now with Giganews, excellent


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