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youngqb 05-02-2006 18:10

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The modem staying where it currently is is not an option, I'm redocoratng and the room is becoming a childs bedroom. I want it out, discretely on the wall in the hall, along side the router. I can then run ethernet cable to all the points that require them.

altis 05-02-2006 18:11

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.... issues.

jrhnewark 05-02-2006 20:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SLM
To buy your own tooling it would cost
£12 for the cable strippers
£48 for the compression tool

Gimme a Stanley Knife and I'll strip it for you - for free. I've not come across any need for cable strippers yet, and I do a job that would need them if they were to be necessary!

I think you're taking the mick - sorry.

youngqb 05-02-2006 21:24

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I tend to agree. I'm not into tackling jobs that I know might go pear shaped, but the worst I can do is make a crap connection, in which case I can strip it back again a couple of inches and start again.

Ignition 05-02-2006 21:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by altis
.... issues.

There's a post count bumper :p

Issues, generating an impedance mismatch by putting the wrong kit in will cause signal reflections. Just think about what happens when light hits a window and bounces back.

altis 06-02-2006 08:17

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Sorry, it was meant to be a reflection not a question.

;)

SLM 06-02-2006 16:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jrhnewark
Gimme a Stanley Knife and I'll strip it for you - for free. I've not come across any need for cable strippers yet, and I do a job that would need them if they were to be necessary!

I think you're taking the mick - sorry.

Where do you leave your horse then mate;) This method may be ok for putting on a aerial connector form a roof but not for a modem/DTV.

youngqb 11-04-2006 11:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SLM
Where do you leave your horse then mate;) This method may be ok for putting on a aerial connector form a roof but not for a modem/DTV.

Eventually got round to doing the job I mentioned some months ago.....chopped the crimped f connector off the cable, re-routed it under the floor to where I now want the modem to reside, stanley knife to the cable, stripped it back carefully and simply put a 49p f connector back on. Not crimped, just screwed on. Was going to apply a bit of solder but didn't bother as it looks like a snug fit. The fact that I'm posting this suggests no problems whatsoever.

AbyssUnderground 11-04-2006 16:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by youngqb
Eventually got round to doing the job I mentioned some months ago.....chopped the crimped f connector off the cable, re-routed it under the floor to where I now want the modem to reside, stanley knife to the cable, stripped it back carefully and simply put a 49p f connector back on. Not crimped, just screwed on. Was going to apply a bit of solder but didn't bother as it looks like a snug fit. The fact that I'm posting this suggests no problems whatsoever.

Check your signal levels and make sure they are all OK.

SLM 11-04-2006 17:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by youngqb
The fact that I'm posting this suggests no problems whatsoever.

Hopefully there are no problems, you may not see any but it may "back feed" onto the network and give all your neighbours trouble.

Stu038 11-04-2006 18:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by youngqb
Stanley knife to the cable, stripped it back carefully

Good luck in the future with that one if the frequencies go higher, the reason for not using a Stanley knife is to avoid scoring the extremely thin copper jacket on the outer edge of the centre conductor that the signals travel down.

Quote:

Originally Posted by youngqb
Not crimped, just screwed on. Was going to apply a bit of solder but didn't bother as it looks like a snug fit.

The point of having them crimped on is to make an electronically sound connection that continues the electrical seal around the centre conductor to stop signals getting in and out, not so that it looks like it fits. As you were told earlier, the screw on connectors are completely the wrong specifications for cable signals.

Quote:

Originally Posted by youngqb
The fact that I'm posting this suggests no problems whatsoever.

Perhaps not for you today, in fact you may be lucky and it may never cause you a problem, but you can guarantee that it will cause some poor sod somewhere a problem sooner or later.

You'd be surprised how many poor speed/connection problems are tracked down to dodgy connectors that ntl install let alone a Maplins satellite coax special

Still as long as you've saved yourself a few quid eh? :td:

a good help 11-04-2006 19:57

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if you were to move the cable yourself, then ntl wouldnt know, but if you had a fault and the engineer found that your new extension was the fault then you will be liable for a £25.00 service visit as its your equiptment that caused the fault, spend the £25 and call NTL and ask for them to come and rellocate the catv for you, then any issues from then on would be down to NTL to correct if the need came..

costs:
£2.00 for connectors from maplis..ect
£5-10 for cable ( and it'll be either sat cable or normal coax )
you have a fault
£25.00 charge applied-cos of your new extension wire
then ur adv to get NTL to relocate by fault tech
another £25. for the cable to be moved.

so just call cust service and ask for them to arrange the cable to be moved and save on any further costs..

Shaun 11-04-2006 20:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu038
You'd be surprised how many poor speed/connection problems are tracked down to dodgy connectors that ntl install


I really must take a few photos of some of the installs around here, cables chopped off here, hanging out there. :erm:

youngqb 05-05-2006 09:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu038
You'd be surprised how many poor speed/connection problems are tracked down to dodgy connectors that ntl install let alone a Maplins satellite coax special

Still as long as you've saved yourself a few quid eh? :td:

If you read my earlier posts I think you'll see it had nothing to do with saving a few quid. I like the thought of doing these things myself, but in fact I'm happy to acccept that my ignorance of 'back feed' etc could perhaps cause problems.......link me to something I can swat up on so that I'm more informed....... I might even phone ntl and ask them to come out and remake the connection, just for your piece of mind.....you never know. ;)

basa 05-05-2006 13:14

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Having only just read this thread, I wondered why the OP didn't carefully chisel around the cable in the dwarf wall to open up the original hole until he could draw the cable back through complete ? :erm:

The plug is only a few mm larger than the cable.


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