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handyman 28-10-2005 11:37
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Originally Posted by Chris T
OK - so what's your daily rate for web design, and how many days would you quote for the M&S Food site, which is the bit they're redesigned (starts with a www2 address)?
Rate would be £150 per day if it was that large a project (i'm cheap) The hardest part is gettig the content right the actual design does not take too long, so 4 days depending on how much they redid. £600 bargain:D

SMHarman 28-10-2005 11:41
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And the fact that the order PDF has not even been bothered to be edited from the print version, it still has the cut lines etc on it.

nffc 28-10-2005 11:45
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Originally Posted by Jon M
Second link worked fine for me (FF 1.5 b2)
ditto, same build.

Chris 28-10-2005 11:46
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Quote:
Originally Posted by handyman
Rate would be £150 per day if it was that large a project (i'm cheap) The hardest part is gettig the content right the actual design does not take too long, so 4 days depending on how much they redid. £600 bargain:D
You are indeed cheap ... even our own IT dept is more expensive than that when they re-charge other departments internally. :D

OK, so if you had to spend extra time ensuring browser compatibility, how much more would you quote?

SMHarman 28-10-2005 11:47
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To paraphrase
Quote:
This isn't just web browsing, this is Marks and Spencer web browsing

handyman 28-10-2005 11:54
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Originally Posted by Chris T
You are indeed cheap ... even our own IT dept is more expensive than that when they re-charge other departments internally. :D

OK, so if you had to spend extra time ensuring browser compatibility, how much more would you quote?
Its not too hard to make sites that are cross browser compatible. Even I can manage that.

As for cheap we hire our guys out at £500 per day plus expenses etc. I do web design for fun and in my spare time (geek).

Chris 28-10-2005 12:00
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Originally Posted by handyman
Its not too hard to make sites that are cross browser compatible. Even I can manage that.

As for cheap we hire our guys out at £500 per day plus expenses etc. I do web design for fun and in my spare time (geek).
Fair enough. What I'm trying to arrive at of course is an estimate of how much M&S might have saved by corner-cutting on their browser compatibility, and how much they are going to lose as a result of non-PC/IE users getting no joy from the site.

Salu 28-10-2005 12:07
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- I will not now order our daughter's Dedication Day cake from M&S because their website didn't work for me. That's one slice of profit gone. How many more people will do the same? A small but significant number, I think. And how much money do you think M&S saved by employing a web designer who was cheaper because he took less time, because he only bothered to check his work against one browser?
8oz Self raising flour
8oz Butter
8oz Castor sugar.........

;) ;) :rofl:

Chris 28-10-2005 12:17
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Originally Posted by Salu
8oz Self raising flour
8oz Butter
8oz Castor sugar.........

;) ;) :rofl:
Why would I wish to put small furniture wheels in my daughter's cake? :p: :D

Actually we would happily bake a cake ourselves, we just want it professionally decorated. I have no confidence in my sugarcraft abilities.

handyman 28-10-2005 12:22
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Blimey I never looked at the prices, those are dear cakes :shocked:

Is there nowhere local you can go?

SMHarman 28-10-2005 12:27
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Originally Posted by handyman
Blimey I never looked at the prices, those are dear cakes :shocked:

Is there nowhere local you can go?
It wasn't funny the first time, but I'll try again.
(to Mr Blue Sky - Electric Light Orchestra)
These aren't just Birthday Cakes, these are Marks and Spencer Birthday Cakes.

It's also good to see they are not capable of building the ordering into their checkout functionality!

Chris 28-10-2005 12:33
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Originally Posted by handyman
Blimey I never looked at the prices, those are dear cakes :shocked:

Is there nowhere local you can go?
Yes, we found a humble little baker shop in Dumbarton Road, in Glasgow's West End. His website worked just fine. :D

Macca371 28-10-2005 13:14
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They also spelled Christmas wrong, 'Chistmas' :D

bob_builder 28-10-2005 14:14
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You could buy it from Waitrose (they are nicer than M&S):
http://www.waitrosedeliver.com/wdeli...sp?siteCode=BI

Millay 28-10-2005 15:13
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At a guess I would say they spent about 10k on the wbsite, design programming and putting it all together is a time consuming job. But they have obviously been shaftered as any good web design house has proof readers and combatability/usability test...


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