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I don't have any documented cases, and I don't have to produce any either for this discussion.

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Kids are protected by assault laws just like anyone else. There's restraint and there's restraint. Some people's idea of discipline seems to rest solely with corporal punishment; there are other ways. I talki to mine, withold things that sort of caper. Done me all right so far (fingers crossed!)
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Common assault. Same law to protect kids as anyone else.

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Which was never properly tested in court because, having been banned from living at home for six months, the poor bloke pled guilty just to get the nightmare over with.

It would be remarkably easy for a single smack on the backside to cause a small child's feet to leave the ground. They don't weigh very much. And I think the fact that it was a *single* smack, and not a good thrashing, should not be overlooked.

Perhaps if bail conditions had not been so draconian, the man might have felt more able to plead his case. We will never know.

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Exactly, is your definition the same as the courts. If you lay your hands on somebody, forcebly grip or grab them, causing harm - That is assault.

Now before we veer off on tangent.

My point was that Teachers will be given the power to use reasonable force to restrain a child in class. The level of restraint could be taken assault. But teachers wont be prosecuted for it.

However if a parent used the same level as force they could be.

Which was the meaning of that line in my opening post

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Cites?
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Ah. So it's an opinion.

Please don't present it as a fact then.

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I have posted an example of a father being prosecuted for assault after smacking his child in public. Here's the link again:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/m...er/4080293.stm

My concern is that he was effectively compelled to plead guilty as the bail conditions imposed on him were draconian.

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Someone just made it a fact a few post above your's.

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And the charge was common assault. Is anyone suggesting children shouldn't be protected from assault in the same way that adults are? :confused:

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I restrain mine by removing their internet access. Simple and works like a dream ! :D

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Like your style! :D

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I don't think anyone is suggesting that. I think anyone is suggesting that this may not have been common assault, that the case was never aired in court because the defendant pleaded guilty, and that he did so due to extreme bail conditions pursued by social services that were far in excess of the charge.

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Sorry didn't realise I had to qualify all of my statements with IMO or :fact:

Sorry, I thought we were having a discussion

I note you'd rather address the issue of whether I was expressing opinion rather than fact (when I thought it was fairly obvious it was opinion) that address the that post or subsequent post.