Re: Ann widdecombe has died
 

She was very security conscious, so must have either known or was expecting the man that arrived. They either flipped and turned on her for some reason or wanted something from her that she refused to give. She's the type of person that wouldn't just roll over and give in and, unfortunately, paid with her life.

Re: Ann widdecombe has died
 

How about less speculation, and wait for actual facts. :sleep:

Re: Ann widdecombe has died
 

As requested by Police, 2 minutes 10 seconds in

Re: Ann widdecombe has died
 

You don’t know this - this is rampant speculation bordering on fantasy…

Re: Ann widdecombe has died
 

Quite right, as of now we know nothing about this case - it’s equally likely she was killed by little green men from Mars! Basically all we know now is that she is dead, and there is sufficient evidence to treat it as a 'suspicious death’, no more, no less.

I believe that the police have asked people to not make spurious comments or speculations on social media; they are not helpful, could well be distressing to her friends and family - fat chance that that request will be heeded, as we have seen in this very thread. Paul has (rightly) removed some posts which had just veered off into complete fantasy.

By all means have your own theories, but at least ground them in logic, base them on what is known and published.

Re: Ann widdecombe has died
 

Posts deleted - final warning, drop the nonsense in this topic.

Re: Ann Widdecombe has died, murder suspected
 

Counter terrorist police have now taken the lead in the investigation.

Re: Ann Widdecombe has died, murder suspected
 

this case just changes by the day

Re: Ann Widdecombe has died, murder suspected
 

It did seem odd to rule out terrorism when they hadn’t got a suspect and presumably a complete idea of his/her motives.

Some of the inability to properly pay respects or follow the old adage if you can’t say anything nice don’t say anything at all online has been quite grim.

Re: Ann Widdecombe has died, murder suspected
 

I agree. It's not unusual to arrest someone quickly and then to release them but to exclude terrorism so early on with no on charged seemed counter to their own request not to speculate.

But easy to say from the side lines.

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Agreed on both counts.

Re: Ann Widdecombe has died, murder suspected
 

I've seen wildly varying reactions from people saying they were glad about what happened to people saying that they were very sad.

A lot of comments seem to be dependent on political allegiances (I have friends right across the political spectrum). Those on the far right seem to think that it was done by the left and those on the left seem to think it was done by the right to silence her.

More moderate people have expressed their condolences, even those who didn't agree with her political beliefs.

Ann herself was a great believer in free speech and said (upon the death of John Smith) that it was "absurd" to suddenly heap praise on someone's political views just because they had passed away'.

Re: Ann Widdecombe has died, murder suspected
 

I've seen lots of nonsense posted, some of it on here.

Lets stick to facts, rather than wild speculation, this isnt twitter or facebook.

Yes very sad if someone indeed did this to her...

Re: Ann Widdecombe has died, murder suspected
 

In fairness John Smith died before performative mourning became a thing, around 1997.

Re: Ann Widdecombe has died, murder suspected
 

The suspect in the brutal murder of Ann Widdecombe had Russian communist literature and other political ideology at his home, it has been claimed. In a dramatic escalation, counter-terrorism officers yesterday took over the investigation into the death of the former Tory minister and Reform UK spokesman, with the killing being treated as a suspected politically motivated terrorist attack.


https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/22...ist-literature


interesting development if true