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nomadking 02-11-2025 12:52

Re: Stabbing attack on train
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36205739)
Just wait and see what comes out about the motive.

Two people being arrested is odd; it doesn't fit the pattern of some of these previous incidents, especially if it's not terrorism related.

Were both of them attacking people? Or was the other person just accompanying the attacker?
Also wouldn't fit a scenario of an individual going crazy.

RichardCoulter 02-11-2025 12:59

Re: Stabbing attack on train
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36205741)
my first thought is this is a calm the people down exercise, the old nothing to see here approach, only time will tell


IIRC there was an incident where they refused to give details of the ethnicity of the perpetrator, people assumed he was Asian and started demonstrating etc.

I think it was the incident where the little girls were stabbed at a nursery

I imagine that this statement will be to try and prevent this from happening again.

nomadking 02-11-2025 13:15

Re: Stabbing attack on train
 
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36205743)
IIRC there was an incident where they refused to give details of the ethnicity of the perpetrator, people assumed he was Asian and started demonstrating etc.

I think it was the incident where the little girls were stabbed at a nursery

I imagine that this statement will be to try and prevent this from happening again.

Where there are living witnesses to an attack, details about any attacker(s) will quickly become public knowledge.

mrmistoffelees 02-11-2025 13:19

Re: Stabbing attack on train
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36205735)
nothing to suggest anything yet

You'll have to scroll through the following link a bit

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cm2zvjx1z14t

It appears that the code word 'plato' was issued and then withdrawn from the link above, that means 'marauding terror attack'

Also interesting that the police again have had to release the identities of the men suspected of the attack so quickly in order to stop the spread of false or supposition of false infomrstion.

Theres nothing like people wanting to push their own narrative but doing it in such a way that their response is 'well, that's not what I actually said' when they're wrong

nomadking 02-11-2025 13:33

Re: Stabbing attack on train
 
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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36205745)
You'll have to scroll through the following link a bit

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cm2zvjx1z14t

It appears that the code word 'plato' was issued and then withdrawn from the link above, that means 'marauding terror attack'

Also interesting that the police again have had to release the identities of the men suspected of the attack so quickly in order to stop the spread of false or supposition of false infomrstion.

Theres nothing like people wanting to push their own narrative but doing it in such a way that their response is 'well, that's not what I actually said' when they're wrong

The attacks were over with 2 people arrested, so Plato was no longer in play. No further response required.

papa smurf 02-11-2025 13:41

Re: Stabbing attack on train
 
This latest episode will make people think twice about rail travel, you don't know what passengers have on their person, even more scary on a packed tube train

Carth 02-11-2025 14:06

Re: Stabbing attack on train
 
Anywhere with people packed in an area with no 'escape route' are the usual targets for nutters (of any race/religion) wishing to cause damage to civilians.

Buses
Tube trains
Concert halls
Airports
Sports stadiums
Places of Worship
...
...
...

damien c 02-11-2025 14:07

Re: Stabbing attack on train
 
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36205751)
Anywhere with people packed in an area with no 'escape route' are the usual targets for nutters (of any race/religion) wishing to cause damage to civilians.

Buses
Tube trains
Concert halls
Airports
Sports stadiums
Places of Worship
...
...
...

Very True!


For me it's yet another reason to not use expensive train travel.

RichardCoulter 02-11-2025 15:31

Re: Stabbing attack on train
 
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36205751)
Anywhere with people packed in an area with no 'escape route' are the usual targets for nutters (of any race/religion) wishing to cause damage to civilians.

Buses
Tube trains
Concert halls
Airports
Sports stadiums
Places of Worship
...
...
...

At least with some of those places people have a chance of escaping, I think this is why they favour aeroplanes. Somewhere else where people are stuck is on places like cruise ships.

Does anyone know if people are checked before they board a cruise ship, in the same way as an aeroplane? I wonder if they will now consider this for train passengers? It would be very expensive and train tickets are already too expensive as it is.

papa smurf 02-11-2025 15:40

Re: Stabbing attack on train
 
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36205762)
At least with some of those places people have a chance of escaping, I think this is why they favour aeroplanes. Somewhere else where people are stuck is on places like cruise ships.

Does anyone know if people are checked before they board a cruise ship, in the same way as an aeroplane? I wonder if they will now consider this for train passengers? It would be very expensive and train tickets are already too expensive as it is.

how about an armed guard on the train

RichardCoulter 02-11-2025 17:48

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36205763)
how about an armed guard on the train

That would be cheaper than checking passengers airport style.


There are marshalls I think they call them on American aeroplanes, not sure if we havd them.

Mr K 02-11-2025 17:56

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36205763)
how about an armed guard on the train

And if somebody mugs the guard and takes the gun?

Paul 02-11-2025 18:09

Re: Stabbing attack on train
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36205769)
And if somebody mugs the guard and takes the gun?

Does that happen on US aeroplanes ?

nomadking 02-11-2025 18:24

Re: Stabbing attack on train
 
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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36205770)
Does that happen on US aeroplanes ?

The marshals are not in uniform, so nobody knows who they are.

Hugh 02-11-2025 18:31

Re: Stabbing attack on train
 
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36205767)
That would be cheaper than checking passengers airport style.


There are marshalls I think they call them on American aeroplanes, not sure if we havd them.

According to the New York Times, there are around 3,000 Air Marshalls, and the FAA manage around 45,000 flights per day - but those are in place after all the pre-flight security has been undertaken, so probably not an equivalent solution for trains (around 18,000 train journeys per day) in the U.K….


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