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Chris

02-10-2025 19:13

Re: Manchester synagogue attack

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36203868)

No idea what that is, so I looked it up.

This year it is apparently the "Evening of Wed, 1 Oct 2025 – Thu, 2 Oct 2025".

Given the above, I doubt the timing is a coincidence.

In ancient Israel, it was the one day of the year when the High Priest was allowed to go into the holiest part of the temple, carrying a blood sacrifice which he would present at the Ark of the Covenant.

As the temple and its system of animal sacrifices is long since gone, modern Jews use the festival today to focus on the principles behind it instead.

Pierre

02-10-2025 22:15

Re: Manchester synagogue attack

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Police have just confirmed the name of the suspect in this morning's attack as 35-year-old Jihad al Shamie, a British citizen of Syrian descent.

Well, the clue is right there in the ff’n name isn’t it?

papa smurf

02-10-2025 22:38

Re: Manchester synagogue attack

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36203890)

Well, the clue is right there in the ff’n name isn’t it?

I think it means struggle in Arabic

Chris

02-10-2025 23:01

Re: Manchester synagogue attack

It means holy war.

Dude111

03-10-2025 00:46

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

One down; how many more perps to go?

Hioefully not many :(

1andrew1

03-10-2025 07:55

Re: Manchester synagogue attack

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36203892)

I think it means struggle in Arabic

Agreed. Quite a bit of nuance over what it means so everyone is right really.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jiha...s%20of%20Islam.

Pierre

03-10-2025 08:38

Re: Manchester synagogue attack

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36203917)

Agreed. Quite a bit of nuance over what it means so everyone is right really.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jiha...s%20of%20Islam.

There’s no nuance, everybody knows what it means. It mean Islamic conquest through war.

Anyone that says different is just obfuscating. It may have meant other things a long time ago.

Much like the swastika was a Hindu symbol of peace, but nobody would walk around with one tattooed on their arm now, because it is totally associated with Nazi’s.

Chris

03-10-2025 08:44

Re: Manchester synagogue attack

Back in the day I recall newspapers noting that the DVLA had blacklisted the registration number J1HAD.

Chris

03-10-2025 09:24

Re: Manchester synagogue attack

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36203924)

'Everybody knows' is not a source, it's just your echo chamber. I doubt anyone's going to give their son a headstart in life by naming him 'Islamic conquest by war'. ;)

Might I politely suggest that you refusing to believe *anyone* would do such a thing arises from views acquired in your own echo chamber. ;)

GrimUpNorth

03-10-2025 09:38

Re: Manchester synagogue attack

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36203925)

Might I politely suggest that you refusing to believe *anyone* would do such a thing arises from views acquired in your own echo chamber. ;)

I suppose that could be said about many comments, yours included ;)

TheDaddy

03-10-2025 09:48

Re: Manchester synagogue attack

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36203879)

I don't think you are right. Cheders are Sunday schools.

and these aren't them, never said they were, they're normal schools

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36203925)

Might I politely suggest that you refusing to believe *anyone* would do such a thing arises from views acquired in your own echo chamber. ;)

Can't find the post you quoted :shocked: but I wonder if you remember the hooha years ago when those US white supremacists tried to register their child's name as Aryan Race? Turned out Aryan had an older brother and sister will almost as ridiculous names iirc

Sephiroth

03-10-2025 09:52

Re: Manchester synagogue attack

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36203920)

Agreed. A man called "Jihad" murders some Jews; a whole load of pirrocks at Waterloo Station (or somewhere) give it the "river to the sea treatment" and we're debating the square root of the meaning of the word "jihad".

1andrew1

03-10-2025 09:53

Re: Manchester synagogue attack

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36203925)

Might I politely suggest that you refusing to believe *anyone* would do such a thing arises from views acquired in your own echo chamber. ;)

Maybe I should have said 'highly unlikely'. The Wikipedia article is not an echo chamber and worth a read.

Chris

03-10-2025 10:04

Re: Manchester synagogue attack

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36203929)

Maybe I should have said 'highly unlikely'. The Wikipedia article is not an echo chamber and worth a read.

I’d suggest the Wikipedia editor community is very much an echo chamber all of its own, but that would be another topic.

1andrew1

03-10-2025 10:40

Re: Manchester synagogue attack

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36203930)

I’d suggest the Wikipedia editor community is very much an echo chamber all of its own, but that would be another topic.

Indeed. But the more pertinent question to ask in this context is "Is it better than anyone knows?".

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