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TheDaddy 19-09-2025 23:44
Re: Antisemitism: So it openly starts
 
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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36203021)
Racism ?

I thought being Jewish was a relegion, not a race ?
They can be both

Sephiroth 20-09-2025 08:01
Re: Antisemitism: So it openly starts
 
”One random nutter” is how it starts. Btw, see Corbyn and his lot for details where they do it more craftily.

mrmistoffelees 20-09-2025 08:04
Re: Antisemitism: So it openly starts
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36203004)
Er - the sign is quite clear: "Jews are banned from here".

But I note the tone of your response. Let me put a question to you:

If it was your shop, and it's not antisemitism to ban JEWS who support Israeli action in Gaza, what would your notice read if you didn't want them in your shop?
I’m not sure which tone you think you’re getting, regardless

‘ Reisch explained that he had decided to stop serving customers who, in his opinion, support the war in Israel.‘

There’s two completely things here , one is a sign banning all Jews as you say.

The next is inference that any customers who support the war are banned and that Jewish people who do not support the war ‘can have a coffee’

And as Hugh asks, how can you determine someone is Jewish ?

1andrew1 20-09-2025 08:33
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36203032)
”One random nutter” is how it starts. Btw, see Corbyn and his lot for details where they do it more craftily.
It's been there for a long time.

Theresa May's 'Citizens of nowhere' was seen by some as codified antisemitism.

papa smurf 20-09-2025 09:16
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i fear the plot has been well and truly lost

Carth 20-09-2025 10:10
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36203035)
i fear the plot has been well and truly lost
Not even a plot really, just seems like a badly written draft for a book, where the main character is killed off in chapter 3, only to reappear in chapter 6 poorly disguised as a Nun with a beard and a penchant for pineapple on his (her) pizza. :spin:

1andrew1 20-09-2025 10:22
Re: Antisemitism: So it openly starts
 
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36203036)
Not even a plot really, just seems like a badly written draft for a book, where the main character is killed off in chapter 3, only to reappear in chapter 6 poorly disguised as a Nun with a beard and a penchant for pineapple on his (her) pizza. :spin:
Is this still available? ;)

Sephiroth 20-09-2025 10:35
Re: Antisemitism: So it openly starts
 
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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36203033)
I’m not sure which tone you think you’re getting, regardless

‘ Reisch explained that he had decided to stop serving customers who, in his opinion, support the war in Israel.‘

There’s two completely things here , one is a sign banning all Jews as you say.

The next is inference that any customers who support the war are banned and that Jewish people who do not support the war ‘can have a coffee’

And as Hugh asks, how can you determine someone is Jewish ?
Er - the sign plainly reads: “JEWS ARE BANNED FROM HERE”.

You’re pretty much ‘allowing’ the shopkeeper’s notice to Jews. That’s the tone I’m seeing. You should be criticising him outright and the fact that you don’t speaks volumes.

mrmistoffelees 20-09-2025 11:36
Re: Antisemitism: So it openly starts
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36203038)
Er - the sign plainly reads: “JEWS ARE BANNED FROM HERE”.

You’re pretty much ‘allowing’ the shopkeeper’s notice to Jews. That’s the tone I’m seeing. You should be criticising him outright and the fact that you don’t speaks volumes.
I’m not allowing anything. So please don’t insinuate when you haven’t a clue what youre on about. last time I checked I didn’t march to the beat of your drum nor do I have any obligation too.

TL:DR pipe down.

The point I’m trying to make which appears to have gone completely over your head is thus.

The sign as you quite rightly says no Jews allowed , however later in the article it says that anyone supporting the war is barred but Jewish people who don’t support the war are welcome for a coffee.

The article appears to be incongruent

Carth 20-09-2025 12:15
Re: Antisemitism: So it openly starts
 
Agree with that.

An initial 'catch all' statement later amended to have a caveat.

Paul 20-09-2025 12:35
Re: Antisemitism: So it openly starts
 
I'm not sure one crackpot in Germany, who cant even make up his mind, exactly means "Antisemitism: So it openly starts".

TheDaddy 20-09-2025 13:08
Re: Antisemitism: So it openly starts
 
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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36203045)
I'm not sure one crackpot in Germany, who cant even make up his mind, exactly means "Antisemitism: So it openly starts".
Exactly but if you look hard enough and scourer enough sources you can make an outrageous statement about anything, some people have got wayyy to much time on their hands to feed obsessions :shrug:

Sephiroth 20-09-2025 14:18
Re: Antisemitism: So it openly starts
 
You have to see this for what the headline reads. "JEWS ARE BANNED". Attempts to explain away and thus excuse what this German openly wrote provide a sour tone.

TheDaddy 20-09-2025 15:07
Re: Antisemitism: So it openly starts
 
Yawn, one extremist **** doesn't mean the start of anything, he'll be out of business soon and no one will remember how unpleasant he was

Pierre 20-09-2025 20:19
Re: Antisemitism: So it openly starts
 
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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36203021)
Racism ?

I thought being Jewish was a relegion, not a race ?
No, Jewish is a race.

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36203033)

And as Hugh asks, how can you determine someone is Jewish ?
Usually the nose isn’t it?

---------- Post added at 20:15 ---------- Previous post was at 20:13 ----------

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36203039)
The sign as you quite rightly says no Jews allowed however later in the article it says that anyone supporting the war is barred but Jewish people who don’t support the war are welcome for a coffee.
Should the sign say the latter then…….and not the former?

To remove any incongruity?

---------- Post added at 20:19 ---------- Previous post was at 20:15 ----------

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36203054)
Yawn, one extremist **** doesn't mean the start of anything, he'll be out of business soon and no one will remember how unpleasant he was
It’s the fact he feels emboldened enough to do it, and before you know it you have a lot of emboldened extremist pricks, because they can see the conditions are favourable for them


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