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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36201601)

I'll ask this before anyone else ..

What Photo ID ? Not everyone has a passport or (photo) driving licence.

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You may be asked questions to confirm your identity if your ID or documents are not accepted.

General point on various matters.

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As it's an issue many others will encounter, using an internet search will reveal advice and assistance.

You do not need photo id this is 100% . Also because they are already claiming the Work Coach will be able to run checks to confirm id at the interview. This also I can confirm accurate by experience

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36201601)

I'll ask this before anyone else ..

What Photo ID ? Not everyone has a passport or (photo) driving licence.

This. They would not even accept the missus' French ID card or Passport (expired).

Even the document she was given after we entered the UK after our wedding in France was rejected ("Right To Reside").

Well, their site crashed, freezed solid, crashed and crashed again.

Perhaps I'll have better luck today.

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Originally Posted by Taf (Post 36201670)

Well, their site crashed, freezed solid, crashed and crashed again.

Perhaps I'll have better luck today.

I'm shoving all my cash under the mattress, won't be long before the whole internet crashes and burns :D

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Originally Posted by Taf (Post 36201670)

Well, their site crashed, freezed solid, crashed and crashed again.

Perhaps I'll have better luck today.

Nope. Both yesterday and again today it was a crash, a crash and a total freeze.

:(

You know what they really want: national IDs.That would "solve" the "problem" of proving your identity, also the age verification thing which is not so slowly paralysing the Internet.
Isn't it curious that Douglas Adams saw this coming in 1992 (or maybe earlier - how long did he take on his fifth Hitch-Hiker book?):

It was an Ident-i-Eeze, and was a very naughty and silly thing for Harl to have lying around in his wallet, though it was perfectly understandable. There were so many different ways in which you were required to provide absolute proof of your identity these days that life could easily become extremely tiresome just from that factor alone, never mind the deeper existential problems of trying to function as a coherent consciousness in an epistemologically ambiguous physical universe.
Just look at cashpoint machines, for instance. Queues of people standing around waiting to have their fingerprints read, their retinas scanned, bits of skin scraped from the nape of the neck and undergoing instant (or nearly instant - a good six or seven seconds in tedious reality) genetic analysis, then having to answer trick questions about members of their family they didn’t even remember they had, and about their recorded preferences for tablecloth colours.
And that was just to get a bit of spare cash for the weekend. If you were trying to raise a loan for a jetcar, sign a missile treaty or pay an entire restaurant bill things could get really trying. Hence the Ident-i-Eeze.
This encoded every single piece of information about you, your body and your life into one all-purpose machine-readable card that you could then carry around in your wallet, and therefore represented technology’s greatest triumph to date over both itself and plain common sense.

- Mostly Harmless

(Ford goes on to abuse the card in a variety of ways before putting it back.)

I think Douglas was right. That all sounds terribly familiar. We're not there yet, but we're going that way. When, when, I would like to know, will UK governments see 1984 as the satire and warning Orwell intended, and not as a bloody instruction manual - "How To Run A Dictatorship Disguised As A Democratic Society"? WHEN?!

(BTW: Hi, Echelon! Your favourite free thinker - a.k.a. subversive - here! Yes, I dare to think for myself - not too well these days, I grant you, since the stroke - and, shock horror, to have my own opinions!)

I haven't signed my debit and credit cards - never mind that I can freeze them via the Barclays app once I discover they're missing, anyone who finds a signed card now has your signature. That can be copied and used for all sorts of things. I don't risk it. Once quantum encryption is a practical reality we might be able to relax a bit, because it'll be intrinsically uncrackable. You'd need the Infinity Stones to break quantum encryption, because you'd need to alter the laws of physics. Outside the power of the Six (if they were real), you can't.
Even the DWP has security questions. I'm tired of confirming the names of the street I grew up on and my first pet (Tibby, an ace mouser - Mum didn't want a cat, and Dad just said, "Well, we'll have to have the bloody mice, then!" So we got a kitten; a neighbour was finding homes for the kittens her cat had. Not that we paid for him, but he soon proved his worth; the mice were rapidly exterminated and/or went elsewhere) just to sign on.

Another thought: facial recognition is far from perfect. I've known 12-year-olds who looked 18...and 18-year-olds who looked 12. Can an AI tell? I doubt it.

I have always been in favour of basic ID cards. Name, date of birth and photo.

But every proposed ID card I have read about wants to have a magnetic strip (now a chip) containing access to further information, either on the card, or held in central databases.

And all managed by an NGO that hopes it would all be secure.

In the RAF, I was asked to identify the fake RAF ID card in a pile of 6. I spotted one immediately. But all 6 were fake in one way or another. And that was using mid-80s technology.

As for my present situation, the site is still crashing and freezing. The helpline is no help as usual.

humour me and perhaps try to access the site behind a vpn. Just a free one see if that helps

I used Proton, same result. I tried Edge, same result. Ditto edge with Proton.

The fact that VM BB has been looking like this recently can't help. (I first tried before 9am this morning when it seemed OK).

Still no luck, days and days later.

I'm reminded of that saying about doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

The helpline just tells me to "persevere". Is this how they are going to trim off a load of claimants from the Benefits System?

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Originally Posted by Taf (Post 36202425)

Try your MP, make them earn their money. And/ or the press, the DWP love a local news story about their incompetence.

You can wave goodbye to all benefits when Reform take control. Tax cuts for anyone called Nigel will be the No 1 priority.

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Originally Posted by Taf (Post 36202425)

It's the way of the World now mate, same with doctors.

oh, speaking of which, they rang me a couple of days ago:
"hello, it appears we haven't seen you in 2 years"
"yep that's correct, you're not usually interested though"
"what do you mean?"
"I mean getting up at stupid o'clock in a morning just to wait in an appointment queue isn't my idea of keeping healthy, and as you said . . it's 2 years since you bothered to check I was still around"
"Right, well how about I give you an appointment day and time now over the phone?"
"SORTED" :D

The only way it would be "safe" is to store only hashes based on certain data. If needed a hash or set of hashes could be compared but the data could not be reconstructed from the hashes. (A bit like one-way encryption of passwords.)
Still I am generally against ID cards though.

I have nothing against ID cards similar to the UK driving licence.

I do not support cards with all kinds of other personal information on them.