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TimeLord2018 19-03-2025 20:26
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36193055)
This says that the 360 is being phased out as we speak, so what about the older V6?

https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.ph...ini-boxes.html
That's TV 360 mini boxes

RichardCoulter 19-03-2025 21:02
Re: New set top box
 
Ahh, so it's the extra boxes and not the 360 itself- thanks.

Do you know if the main 360 box is able to show live channels & record from IPTV when traditional cable TV is axed?

1701-e 19-03-2025 21:29
Re: New set top box
 
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36193057)
Ahh, so it's the extra boxes and not the 360 itself- thanks.

Do you know if the main 360 box is able to show live channels & record from IPTV when traditional cable TV is axed?
Read post #13, nothing is changing for quite some time

jfman 20-03-2025 17:51
Re: New set top box
 
Do the extra box(es) simply stream the same content over IP or do they use a tuner on the main box over WiFi (as with Sky Q)?

Mr K 21-03-2025 21:32
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They've never bettered the Jerrold analogue cable box. It also provided central heating for the house, and cooking facilities if you wished to fry an egg. None of these new boxes can do that .

epsilon 25-03-2025 13:04
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36193158)
They've never bettered the Jerrold analogue cable box. It also provided central heating for the house, and cooking facilities if you wished to fry an egg. None of these new boxes can do that .
They always remove the best features. :D

nodrogd 25-03-2025 18:21
Re: New set top box
 
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36193057)
Ahh, so it's the extra boxes and not the 360 itself- thanks.

Do you know if the main 360 box is able to show live channels & record from IPTV when traditional cable TV is axed?
Show, Yes. Record, No, they won't. Just as they cannot record the IPTV delivered FAST channels already provided now. Recording is driven from the DVB-C cable tuners.

RichardCoulter 28-03-2025 16:46
Re: New set top box
 
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Originally Posted by nodrogd (Post 36193380)
Show, Yes. Record, No, they won't. Just as they cannot record the IPTV delivered FAST channels already provided now. Recording is driven from the DVB-C cable tuners.
So, in theory, those with 360 boxes could have their traditional cable TV cut off to effectively become stream boxes?

If so, could the V6 be reconfigured to do the same, or will they have to be converted to the 360 software first?

I imagine, when the time comes, those with V6 Boxes will receive an automatic update whether they want to change over to the 360 or not.

nomadking 28-03-2025 18:19
Re: New set top box
 
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36193493)
So, in theory, those with 360 boxes could have their traditional cable TV cut off to effectively become stream boxes?

If so, could the V6 be reconfigured to do the same, or will they have to be converted to the 360 software first?

I imagine, when the time comes, those with V6 Boxes will receive an automatic update whether they want to change over to the 360 or not.
Not sure how that would be honouring their contracts of supplying "Virgin TV V6 Box, powered by TiVo" for the next year or so. The Tivo features would still have to be there.
Don;t know whether V6 with Tivo is supplied for new customers.

1701-e 28-03-2025 23:11
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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36193497)
Not sure how that would be
Don;t know whether V6 with Tivo is supplied for new customers.
TiVo V6 hasn't been available for new customers for some time.


Any withdrawal of TiVo V6 is some years away.

RichardCoulter 29-03-2025 20:04
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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36193497)
Not sure how that would be honouring their contracts of supplying "Virgin TV V6 Box, powered by TiVo" for the next year or so. The Tivo features would still have to be there.
Don;t know whether V6 with Tivo is supplied for new customers.
Apparently Virgin have got this sewn up in the contract with a 'We may change the equipment/software blah blah' clause. When the time comes i'll have a legal bod run over it, which may mean that I have to see out my contract with one of those horrid 360 boxes.

1701-e 29-03-2025 20:22
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36193536)
When the time comes i'll have a legal bod run over it.
Why wait? If you are so worried about it, look at your contract now.

RichardCoulter 29-03-2025 21:30
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Originally Posted by 1701-e (Post 36193538)
Why wait? If you are so worried about it, look at your contract now.
I'm happy with the V6 and aren't worried. I have looked and offered my interpretation of what the contract says, but i'm not a lawyer. If there isn't a period of time where i'm forced to take the 360, then i'll have no need to trouble our legal people.

nomadking 29-03-2025 21:37
Re: New set top box
 
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36193536)
Apparently Virgin have got this sewn up in the contract with a 'We may change the equipment/software blah blah' clause. When the time comes i'll have a legal bod run over it, which may mean that I have to see out my contract with one of those horrid 360 boxes.
The contract is to supply a box with Tivo features and functionality.Any changes have to keep those.

nodrogd 29-03-2025 22:06
Re: New set top box
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36193493)
So, in theory, those with 360 boxes could have their traditional cable TV cut off to effectively become stream boxes?

If so, could the V6 be reconfigured to do the same, or will they have to be converted to the 360 software first?

I imagine, when the time comes, those with V6 Boxes will receive an automatic update whether they want to change over to the 360 or not.
My assumption is that full fibre migration will come with wholesale box swaps. You will need a Hub5x provided, so why not also provide Stream boxes at the same time.


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