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Re: Virgin TV Service

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36189986)

In your head maybe, but not in reality.

First of all, "a few years" is what I just said ("years yet").
Sky has already confirmed it has a deal with SES until 2029.

I’m done arguing with people on this. If you are happy to believe that existing methods of broadcasting will exist for the rest of your life, that’s up to you, but sooner or later, you will have to face reality.

2029 is just four years away, by the way.

Re: Virgin TV Service

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36189989)

I’m done arguing with people on this.

Good. Make sure you stick to that. :sleep:

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36189989)

2029 is just four years away, by the way.

I can count thank you. :dozey:

Re: Virgin TV Service

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36189989)

In my case it quite well stay the same. :rolleyes: Things change nothing we can do about it. Get over it.

Re: Virgin TV Service

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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36190040)

In my case it quite well stay the same. :rolleyes: Things change nothing we can do about it. Get over it.

I’m just pointing out what is plain for all to see. Personally, I’ll not lose any sleep over it whichever way it goes.

Re: Virgin TV Service

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36189985)

I’m afraid that is very unlikely. Once the contracts for the satellite transponders run out in a few years, that will be it for Sky Q.

Sky have recently renewed the contracts, you're done with arguing because once again you've been proven wrong.
What will likely happen is a skyq hybrid box that has both streaming live channels and viewing sattelite channels with a option to record from both.

Re: Virgin TV Service

I can't see them bringing out another Sky Q product.

Re: Virgin TV Service

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Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36190059)

One has to wonder (if there is no future in satellite broadcasting) why SES is launching two new satellites in 2027 (SES26 and Astra 1Q)?

Re: Virgin TV Service

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Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36190059)

Sky have recently renewed the contracts, you're done with arguing because once again you've been proven wrong.
What will likely happen is a skyq hybrid box that has both streaming live channels and viewing sattelite channels with a option to record from both.

I know that, Legendkiller. How does that conflict with what I have said?

Your second point about the hybrid box is beside the point, and such an announcement has not been made by Sky. As far as I know, Sky Q viewers will be moved over to Sky Stream.

It is highly unlikely that Sky would want to pay for costly transponder space when the alternative of streaming is available.

It’ll all come out in the wash.

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36190071)

One has to wonder (if there is no future in satellite broadcasting) why SES is launching two new satellites in 2027 (SES26 and Astra 1Q)?

The contract with SES will have expired by 2030. While I accept that there might be one more extension after that, Sky will no longer be using satellites for their broadcasting by 2035.

https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.ph...ntil-2029.html[EXTRACT]

Global satellite provider SES, which operates a network of nearly 70 satellites that can deliver video and data services to 99% of the world’s population, has today announced an extension of their existing partnership with Sky that will see them continuing to provide capacity to support the Sky Q TV service in the UK and Ireland until the end of 2029.

Sky UK has spent the past couple of years putting a lot more effort into pushing their new internet-based streaming platforms, Sky Glass (Sky integrated streaming TV set) and Sky Stream (streaming set-top-box), which are standalone products that use your home broadband ISP and WiFi connection to stream Sky’s on-demand video content and live TV channels – without the need for a satellite dish.

Re: Virgin TV Service

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While I accept that there might be one more extension after that, Sky will no longer be using satellites for their broadcasting by 2035.

You are stating your opinion as fact…

Nothing in that linked article supports your statement.

Re: Virgin TV Service

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36190082)

You are stating your opinion as fact…

Nothing in that linked article supports your statement.

You are obsessing about this, aren’t you, Hugh? You are grasping at straws and you don’t provide any links to support your view.

Well, here’s one of many that supports mine. Over to you.

https://rxtvinfo.com/2024/how-soon-i...tv-switch-off/

Re: Virgin TV Service

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Satellite operator SES has also previously confirmed that Sky has secured carriage on its satellites until the “end of 2028”.

Which comes from a linked article which was published in 2022.

Previously, you pointed out that the contract was extended to 2030, and I pointed out that SES was launching two more satellites next year.

You are the one obsessing with a "streaming only" future by 2035 - nearly every one else thinks it will be a hybrid model.

Re: Virgin TV Service

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36190083)

You are obsessing about this, aren’t you, Hugh?

Not as much you are. :dozey:

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Originally Posted by TimeLord2018 (Post 36190060)

I can't see them bringing out another Sky Q product.

They have no need to, Sky Q works just fine for them.
It could be improved of course, but thats down to software updates.

Re: Virgin TV Service

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36190084)

You appear to be confusing "obsessing" with "I’m pointing out you are stating an opinion as fact"… ;)

Some information in that linked is contradicted by events that happened after it was published - such as

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Satellite operator SES has also previously confirmed that Sky has secured carriage on its satellites until the “end of 2028”.

Which comes from a linked article which was published in 2022.

Previously, you pointed out that the contract was extended to 2030, and I pointed out that SES was launching two more satellites next year.

You are the one obsessing with a "streaming only" future by 2035 - nearly every one else thinks it will be a hybrid model.

I acknowledge the two additional satellites and Sky’s contract with SES. By the way, I also accept that the 2029 date was extendable, but the article makes clear that this will be only a time limited extension that is unlikely to be extended further.

The article I attached also explains that Sky will not want to be continuing to pay for expensive transponder space when they have Sky Stream available. Sky has stopped promoting Sky Q already, concentrating on their Stream and Glass alternatives.

If you want to fantasise that nothing will change, that’s fine, Hugh. I’ll leave you to comfort yourself with that thought.

Re: Virgin TV Service

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36190071)

One has to wonder (if there is no future in satellite broadcasting) why SES is launching two new satellites in 2027 (SES26 and Astra 1Q)?

Those are for the orbital position of 19.2°, so not aimed at the UK.

Once Sky decide to drop satellite broadcasting, Freesat will become unviable and mainstream DTH satellite broadcasting in the UK will end.

Re: Virgin TV Service

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36190099)

Thanks, Richard. That’s how I see it as well.