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Chris 13-09-2024 12:39

Re: You wake up tomorrow,as the opposite gender..
 
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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 36182885)
Generally this seems to be a very one-sided fear or hate. It's always oh no, how can 'men' get access to female spaces.

It never seems to be mentioned about female to male transgender issues. Making it really sound like people only have problems with the male to female aspect.

I am not just talking about here, it's in general also.

Also medical intervention etc isn't just give them drugs and let them have surgery. For many younger and older transgender folk it's also about the right support in terms of therapy sessions and talking to psychologists etc. As many people suffer from mental health troubles due to their feelings and also how they get treated by other people.

First of all I’d say you need to get used to this being discussed now it is entering mainstream consciousness. The TRA movement has nobody but itself to blame for people being shocked, having deliberately pursued a tactic of #NoDebate for many years. There *will* be a debate, because we live in an open and democratic society. If activists choose then to characterise any debate as necessarily ‘fear’ or ‘hate’ then they are simply making the same mistakes again. Honest debate does not smear opposing views as inherently hateful. It listens, considers and responds.

The reason the discussion tilts heavily towards men who identify as women, as opposed to the other way round, is that men and women are not equally vulnerable. Statistically, if a woman and a man are alone in a secluded space the woman is much more vulnerable than the man. This applies regardless of what gender each individual believes themself to be.

A male goes into a women’s toilet presents a risk to the women there simply because he is a man - regardless of the man’s dress, intentions, or personal beliefs about himself. The statistics and personal experience tell the women they must be wary.

The same does not apply when a woman goes into a men’s toilet. In that case it is *still* the woman who is at risk, for all the same reasons she is at risk when a man comes into her space. This applies whether or not the woman identifies as a man.

The problem with trans activism and #NoDebate (and its offspring, #BeKind) is that it wilfully ignores these things and demands everybody else does too. And that leads directly to the scandal at the Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre which was finally, fully exposed this week, and the resignation of the man who has been its chief executive for the past three years (Mridul Wadhwa, who believes he is a woman). Yes, they let a man run a centre intended as a refuge for some of the most vulnerable women in our society. And all because a certain section of society demands we treat men who say they are women, as if they actually are women. The results of this were predictable, and were predicted, by many people, many of whom were told to #ShutUp and #BeKind.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2edeyzz0xmo

Maggy 13-09-2024 14:11

Re: You wake up tomorrow,as the opposite gender..
 
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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36182837)
Its a daft question since it cannot happen, and even if it were possible, I seriously doubt anyone would choose "commit suicide". :rolleyes:

Agreed! Stupid question.

Escapee 17-09-2024 17:03

Re: You wake up tomorrow,as the opposite gender..
 
I'd quickly realise that I was sitting on a fortune.

Hugh 17-09-2024 18:22

Re: You wake up tomorrow,as the opposite gender..
 
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Originally Posted by Escapee (Post 36183060)
I'd quickly realise that I was sitting on a fortune.

I'm sure the ten pences would soon add up... ;)


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