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jfman 21-06-2024 10:16

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Without passing judgement on the levels of immigration - legal or otherwise - anyone who believes the Tories after 14 years of dog whistling should have the vote taken off them.

Maggy 21-06-2024 10:59

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For the first time in my voting life I don’t know who to vote for only whom I don’t want to vote for.
What a completely,rubbish,useless bunch to try and make a sensible choice from.
Just as I find a candidate who might be better than the rest they do or say something really stupid.

Hugh 21-06-2024 11:44

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spiderplant 21-06-2024 11:59

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Originally Posted by Maggy (Post 36177541)
Just as I find a candidate who might be better than the rest they do or say something really stupid.

My vote is now in the post so they had better not blow it in the next two weeks.

Chris 21-06-2024 12:01

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My postal vote arrived … and has gone back. Voted for the red team for the first time in my life. They’d better not screw it up.

Stephen 21-06-2024 13:07

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36177547)
My postal vote arrived … and has gone back. Voted for the red team for the first time in my life. They’d better not screw it up.

Can things get any worse?

Chris 21-06-2024 13:44

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 36177551)
Can things get any worse?

I think there’s little doubt the inner circle around Keir Starmer is at least as competent as anything any Tory government could put together. For me, the stumbling block I could never get past was the party fringes. There are utter fruit loops on the fringes of both the Labour and Tory parliamentary parties, but on balance I always felt I could tolerate the Tory oddballs better because they are generally interested in feathering their own nests, which while irritating, doesn’t tend to affect me. The so-called progressives of the Loony Left, however, have an evangelistic zeal to remake society in their own image.

Damien 21-06-2024 13:59

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36177552)
I think there’s little doubt the inner circle around Keir Starmer is at least as competent as anything any Tory government could put together. For me, the stumbling block I could never get past was the party fringes. There are utter fruit loops on the fringes of both the Labour and Tory parliamentary parties, but on balance I always felt I could tolerate the Tory oddballs better because they are generally interested in feathering their own nests, which while irritating, doesn’t tend to affect me. The so-called progressives of the Loony Left, however, have an evangelistic zeal to remake society in their own image.

Starmer has kicked a lot of them out anyway, the ones that remain have no power base and are fractured themselves these days between the old SWP lot and the newer generation. Momentum is pretty much finished and the parts of the left-wing base that remain behind Corbyn have gone off to the Greens.

I think if Labour fail in Government it won't be because they try to go too left-wing.

Chris 21-06-2024 14:14

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36177553)
Starmer has kicked a lot of them out anyway, the ones that remain have no power base and are fractured themselves these days between the old SWP lot and the newer generation. Momentum is pretty much finished and the parts of the left-wing base that remain behind Corbyn have gone off to the Greens.

I think if Labour fail in Government it won't be because they try to go too left-wing.

I tend to agree, and that’s what finally tipped me over the edge. (I mean that metaphorically - I was always going to have to hold my nose and vote for the Labour anyway, come what may, just to get the SNP out - now I can at least feel I’ve made a positive choice.)

Starmer sounds cautious to the point of timid at the moment and if that’s how he approaches governing he and Labour will fail. We are at a 1945 moment, where lots of people are willing to see a government do something different. He should heed the warning of 1950/51.

RichardCoulter 21-06-2024 14:41

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36177531)

Some people support a political party like a football team and feel as though they have to support them come what may.

You've shown that, despite being a former supporter of the Conservative Party, even considering standing for election under their banner, if you disagree with things that the Tories have done, you will say so.

As a floating voter, I respect that.

Chris 21-06-2024 14:56

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Achievement unlocked, I guess :erm:

Chris 21-06-2024 21:59

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Nigel Farage, living proof of the Horseshoe Theory.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cjqq...07d53dff8#post

Paul 22-06-2024 03:17

Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 5
 
Umm, ok ...
Care to enlighten those of us who have no idea what that is.

jfman 22-06-2024 06:04

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36177566)
Nigel Farage, living proof of the Horseshoe Theory.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cjqq...07d53dff8#post

More likely living proof Russian money is funding his campaign, as it always has.

Hugh 22-06-2024 09:00

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36177571)
Umm, ok ...
Care to enlighten those of us who have no idea what that is.

From wiki

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the horseshoe theory asserts that advocates of the far-left and the far-right, rather than being at opposite and opposing ends of a linear continuum of the political spectrum, closely resemble each other, analogous to the way that the opposite ends of a horseshoe are close together


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