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Skie 26-08-2023 22:02

Re: Virgin Media price rises break the law
 
If you agree to pay £50 a month for 24 months, it should be £50 a month for 24 months. The RPI/CPI + arbitrary percentage doesn't give you any level of certainty about what you'll be paying in 18 months time, whereas it gives the provider a lot of certainty. It's not a fair contract. Now that everyone is doing it, it's not even avoidable, which adds more unfairness.

Hopefully Ofcom change the rules. Providers pay for a lot of their things via multi-year contracts too, so it's not like they can't be certain about their own costs for 24 months.

jfman 27-08-2023 13:38

Re: Virgin Media price rises break the law
 
Once Ofcom change the rules look out for the 5-10% “just in case” tax going onto the prices next time it comes to renewing. There’s almost zero chance of such a regulatory change actually benefitting consumers.

Mr K 27-08-2023 16:23

Re: Virgin Media price rises break the law
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36159314)
Once Ofcom change the rules look out for the 5-10% “just in case” tax going onto the prices next time it comes to renewing. There’s almost zero chance of such a regulatory change actually benefitting consumers.

As long as choice and increased competition remain then that will control prices. VMs unfair rules are designed to tie customers in whatever the unknown rise and stop choice/cancellation.
You'd hope Ofcom would be strong enough to make the current contracts null and void - I somehow doubt it.

jfman 27-08-2023 16:30

Re: Virgin Media price rises break the law
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36159321)
As long as choice and increased competition remain then that will control prices. VMs unfair rules are designed to tie customers in whatever the unknown rise and stop choice/cancellation.
You'd hope Ofcom would be strong enough to make the current contracts null and void - I somehow doubt it.

Increased competition doesn’t stop them putting these clauses in. There’s no reason to anticipate it’d stop pricing in a premium as a consequence.

Itshim 27-08-2023 18:53

Re: Virgin Media price rises break the law
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36159322)
Increased competition doesn’t stop them putting these clauses in. There’s no reason to anticipate it’d stop pricing in a premium as a consequence.

Did anyone hold a gun to anyones head , it's not as if people didn't understand stand what they signed up to. Just walked away from a long term supplier because of a price increase. Told him so, offered to reverse the charge but he can take a running jump .:erm:

Hugh 27-08-2023 19:04

Re: Virgin Media price rises break the law
 
However, some of us have the challenge that VM has no comparable competition (speed wise) in our area - I can get around 47Mb form non-VM Telcos at the moment, with no forecast date for fibre

From the OpenReach site

Quote:

Build planned between now and Dec-2026

Mr K 27-08-2023 20:58

Re: Virgin Media price rises break the law
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36159324)
However, some of us have the challenge that VM has no comparable competition (speed wise) in our area - I can get around 47Mb form non-VM Telcos at the moment, with no forecast date for fibre

From the OpenReach site

10mb used to be considered good enough for most things, and it is.

bbxxl 27-08-2023 21:06

Re: Virgin Media price rises break the law
 
The property I am looking to buy has maximum of 11, should be 5-8 and a guaranteed minimum of 3.
That’s not useable to work from home.
Luckily I’ve just found I can get Skylink which should give me useable speeds.

Pierre 27-08-2023 21:27

Re: Virgin Media price rises break the law
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36159324)
However, some of us have the challenge that VM has no comparable competition (speed wise) in our area

That’s like complaining that I only have choice between garages that sell Aston Martin’s and Ford Fiesta’s.

I demand there are also Ferrari and Lamborghini garages here too.

At least you have that choice. Just Fiesta’s and Lada’s for me.

Mr K 27-08-2023 21:31

Re: Virgin Media price rises break the law
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36159333)
That’s like complaining that I only have choice between garages that sell Aston Martin’s and Ford Fiesta’s.

I demand there are also Ferrari and Lamborghini garages here too.

At least you have that choice. Just Fiesta’s and Lada’s for me.

Fiesta, every time.

Paul 28-08-2023 01:39

Re: Virgin Media price rises break the law
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36159324)
However, some of us have the challenge that VM has no comparable competition (speed wise) in our area - I can get around 47Mb form non-VM Telcos at the moment, with no forecast date for fibre

From the OpenReach site
Quote:

Build planned between now and Dec-2026

It said that for my area, then FTTP suddenly arrived last summer.

Jaymoss 28-08-2023 08:04

Re: Virgin Media price rises break the law
 
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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36159339)
It said that for my area, then FTTP suddenly arrived last summer.

Says the same but was hoping for it before Feb but I doubt it now. Will have to try to haggle hard with VM for a deal that covers 2 April price hikes

Hugh 28-08-2023 09:40

Re: Virgin Media price rises break the law
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36159328)
10mb used to be considered good enough for most things, and it is.

Black & white TV used to be considered good enough for most things, but life/technology moves on…

You’re turning into the dude (no, not The Big Lebowski…).

bbxxl 28-08-2023 09:54

Re: Virgin Media price rises break the law
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36159328)
10mb used to be considered good enough for most things, and it is.

My first modem was 2400 Baud down and 300 up. It worked but I wouldn’t recommend it now. It only cost £799 but data charges were excessive.

Mr K 28-08-2023 10:01

Re: Virgin Media price rises break the law
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36159350)
Black & white TV used to be considered good enough for most things, but life/technology moves on…

You’re turning into the dude (no, not The Big Lebowski…).

10mb is more than good enough to stream HDTV , it used to be the top tier
https://forums.digitalspy.com/discus...-years-gone-by
not sure Dude would be impressed though ;)


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